Not that I believe an alien invasion is even remotely likely, but if they were to come, they'd only need to plant some seeds of division, and watch us destroy each other. There are plenty of people who will point to the Aliens ideology and use that as justification for why they should remove their ideological opponents here on Earth.
Re: Re: Most memorable modern
By: Boraxman to Arelor on Mon May 19 2025 08:24 am
Not that I believe an alien invasion is even remotely likely, but if t were to come, they'd only need to plant some seeds of division, and wa us destroy each other. There are plenty of people who will point to th Aliens ideology and use that as justification for why they should rem their ideological opponents here on Earth.
What editor are you using? I noticed that recently, your messages are formatted so that every line has an ANSI "reset all modes" code at the end (ESC[0m), formatted to be at the same column in each line. The result is tha in each line, there could be multiple spaces followed by that ANSI code. Tho spaces remain when I quote your message (as seen in the above quoted paragraph). For instance, this screenshot shows the message I'm replying to being edited in vim:
http://www.digitaldistortionbbs.com:81/misc/boraxman_msg.png
I'm the author of SlyEdit (the editor I typically use), and I could make an update such that it could trim excess spaces from the ends of the quote line but generally I like to have it not mess with the original text if possible.
Nightfox
Gamgee wrote to jimmylogan <=-
jimmylogan wrote to Cougar428 <=-
One people, one race, one leader. I agree it wasn't a good thing. In
the US, if you really want to demean someone, you call them a Nazi. It
appears to happen over and over.
As for the 'one race' thing - we are ALL one "RACE" - there are
different ethnicities, but we are all human. I think there are
STILL a lot of people that miss that point...
Not exactly correct. We are *NOT* all one race. We (humans) are all
one *species*, but not all one *race*. Big difference.
So, I think you are among those who have missed that point...
Boraxman wrote to jimmylogan <=-
As for the 'one race' thing - we are ALL one "RACE" - there are
different ethnicities, but we are all human. I think there are
STILL a lot of people that miss that point...
I used to use this phrase, "more than human" to describe myself. It
was my opposition to this "we are all just human" sentiment.
There is more to us than just being human, and reducing us to the
basest, lowest common denominator strips away what makes us...us.
Boraxman wrote to Gamgee <=-
Not exactly correct. We are *NOT* all one race. We (humans) are all
one *species*, but not all one *race*. Big difference.
So, I think you are among those who have missed that point...
Political Correctness demands that we do not recognise race, and that
we simultaneously address racism and race based policies.
Race doesn't exist when it is suitable for Political Correctness, and suddenly does exist, when it is suitable.
jimmylogan wrote to Gamgee <=-
As for the 'one race' thing - we are ALL one "RACE" - there are
different ethnicities, but we are all human. I think there are
STILL a lot of people that miss that point...
Not exactly correct. We are *NOT* all one race. We (humans) are all
one *species*, but not all one *race*. Big difference.
So, I think you are among those who have missed that point...
I hear you, and I appreciate the correction, but I think this comes
down to how we define race.
Biologically, you are right: humans are all one species: Homo sapiens. Scientifically, race is often considered a social construct with no significant biological basis. The Human Genome Project confirmed we
are over 99.9% genetically identical across all so-called races.
But my original point was more moral and spiritual: we are one
human race with different ethnicities, cultures, and appearances,
but all made in the image of God (Genesis 1:27). That is not ignoring
our differences but instead it recognizes our shared humanity.
As Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. said: We must learn to live together
as brothers or perish together as fools.
So if we are talking taxonomy, sure - species vs. race. But if
we are talking about unity and worth? I still say: one race -
the human race.
I hear you, and I appreciate the correction, but I think this comesThe Human Genome Project was not supposed to come to the conclusion that race was real. That was decided before it started.
down to how we define race.
Biologically, you are right: humans are all one species: Homo sapiens. Scientifically, race is often considered a social construct with no significant biological basis. The Human Genome Project confirmed we
are over 99.9% genetically identical across all so-called races.
But my original point was more moral and spiritual: we are one
human race with different ethnicities, cultures, and appearances,
but all made in the image of God (Genesis 1:27). That is not ignoring
our differences but instead it recognizes our shared humanity.
As Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. said: We must learn to live together
as brothers or perish together as fools.
So if we are talking taxonomy, sure - species vs. race. But if
we are talking about unity and worth? I still say: one race -
the human race.
Boraxman wrote to jimmylogan <=-
As for the 'one race' thing - we are ALL one "RACE" - there are
different ethnicities, but we are all human. I think there are
STILL a lot of people that miss that point...
I used to use this phrase, "more than human" to describe myself. It was my opposition to this "we are all just human" sentiment.
There is more to us than just being human, and reducing us to the basest, lowest common denominator strips away what makes us...us.
Sure, there are a TON of different cultural differences. Being
a human doesn't take that away, but if saying we are all human
prevents racism, then why not?
Boraxman wrote to Gamgee <=-
Not exactly correct. We are *NOT* all one race. We (humans) are all
one *species*, but not all one *race*. Big difference.
So, I think you are among those who have missed that point...
Political Correctness demands that we do not recognise race, and that we simultaneously address racism and race based policies.
Race doesn't exist when it is suitable for Political Correctness, and suddenly does exist, when it is suitable.
Do YOU recognize ethnicity as "race?"" As I have read more and more,
I've come to see where Hitler was getting his "race theory." Darwin
taught that we are all part of four races. The word Caucasian
comes from Caucasoid. The others were, to him, less evolved.
My point is that we are ALL equal - we just have different
body types, amounts of melanin, etc.
Biologically, you are right: humans are all one species: Homo sapiens. Scientifically, race is often considered a social construct with no significant biological basis. The Human Genome Project confirmed we
are over 99.9% genetically identical across all so-called races.
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Re: race
By: jimmylogan to Gamgee on
Tue May 20 2025 08:38 pm
Biologically, you are right: humans are all one species: Homo sapiens. Scientifically, race is often considered a social construct with no significant biological basis. The Human Genome Project confirmed we
are over 99.9% genetically identical across all so-called races.
Race might be a social contruct with no significant biological basis,
but let me tell you nobody will mistake a throughbred for a
hispano-breton horse. And while we are at that, nobody will take a hispano-breton to a race, but they will have her pull a cart instead of the throughbred any day.
But even the idea that race lacks biological basis is thin because the origins of people can be traced via biological markers - that is the reason why we know gypsies come from India, for example, because they
are sufficiently distinct from other groups that their traits can be identified. And there are even hints that homo sapiens don't come from
a single ancestor either but from a number of family trees that evolved separatedly.
Gamgee wrote to jimmylogan <=-
jimmylogan wrote to Gamgee <=-
As for the 'one race' thing - we are ALL one "RACE" - there are
different ethnicities, but we are all human. I think there are
STILL a lot of people that miss that point...
Not exactly correct. We are *NOT* all one race. We (humans) are all
one *species*, but not all one *race*. Big difference.
So, I think you are among those who have missed that point...
I hear you, and I appreciate the correction, but I think this comes
down to how we define race.
Not really. There is a clear definition of what race is, and it's not open to your personal interpretation. It's biology/science, and
factual.
Biologically, you are right: humans are all one species: Homo sapiens. Scientifically, race is often considered a social construct with no significant biological basis. The Human Genome Project confirmed we
are over 99.9% genetically identical across all so-called races.
Again, "biology" *is* science. There aren't two definitions. Species
is one thing, and race is another. You don't get to create your own definition.
But my original point was more moral and spiritual: we are one
human race with different ethnicities, cultures, and appearances,
but all made in the image of God (Genesis 1:27). That is not ignoring
our differences but instead it recognizes our shared humanity.
When discussing scientific / technical things (of any sort), it's important to use proper terminology to avoid misunderstandings. There
is no such thing as the "human race". It really is that simple. There
is the human species, which has multiple races. That's how science
works. Words matter.
Boraxman wrote to jimmylogan <=-
Re: race
By: jimmylogan to Gamgee on Tue May 20 2025 08:38 pm
Witness today "scientists" now saying that sex is not a binary, that
the spectrum is real. Even popularisers like Neil Degrasse Tyson and
Bill Nye have supported this. Science has always been willing to
support whatever the regime needed.
The answer is obviously yes, as we use race ALL THE TIME. Even those
who say race does not exist, use it ALL THE TIME. Now, whether it
should be called "Race" or "ethnicity" or "group", well, thats just semantics.
Boraxman wrote to jimmylogan <=-
Sure, there are a TON of different cultural differences. Being
a human doesn't take that away, but if saying we are all human
prevents racism, then why not?
What prevents racism is not jamming disparate peoples together into
one place.
The more you try and push people of different cultures and ethnicities together, the more antagonism you get.
Also, you are assuming that racism is the biggest evil. It is not.
There are bigger evils. Communism, which was supposed to unite the
world and destroy barriers between people, killed more people than
Nazism.
The West is hyper obssessed with racism to the point that it is
literally supporting ethnic cleansing so as not to appear racist.
Arelor wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Oh, my god - really? Elves and dwarves are different SPECIES!
I'm imagining a key and peele episode where the different species in D&D
are racial stereotypes...
(aside: I loved playing elves in D&D. Stealthy as all hell, and roll
high enough on dexterity and they'd get 3 attacks every 2 turns...)
I usually Master rather than play, but when I do, I tend to pick a
Dwarf because I love being a grumpy short bearded guy who ruins every
good moment with his bad mood.
Arelor wrote to jimmylogan <=-
Race might be a social contruct with no significant biological basis,
but let me tell you nobody will mistake a throughbred for a
hispano-breton horse. And while we are at that, nobody will take a hispano-breton to a race, but they will have her pull a cart instead of the throughbred any day.
But even the idea that race lacks biological basis is thin because the origins of people can be traced via biological markers - that is the reason why we know gypsies come from India, for example, because they
are sufficiently distinct from other groups that their traits can be identified.
And there are even hints that homo sapiens don't come from
a single ancestor either but from a number of family trees that evolved separatedly.
Boraxman wrote to Arelor <=-
If I tell you "Robert is Black, Harrison is White and Li is Asian",
and then I
give you a photo of three men, people WILL be able to tell who is who just from
those descriptors alone. Even if I photoshop everyone to have the
same skin
colour, you'll still be able to tell.
This means that race exists. When people select actors for an advertisement, for "Diversity", they select on race.
You cannot then argue it does not exist, when people use racial signifiers ROUTINELY and SUCCESSFULLY to categorise people.
the spectrum is real. Even popularisers like Neil Degrasse Tyson and Bill Nye have supported this. Science has always been willing to
the spectrum is real. Even popularisers like Neil Degrasse Tyson and
Bill Nye have supported this. Science has always been willing to
bill nye is not an authority on any of the stuff he speaks on. he's a weird fucker too.
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Boraxman wrote to Arelor <=-
If I tell you "Robert is Black, Harrison is White and Li is Asian",
and then I
give you a photo of three men, people WILL be able to tell who is who just from
those descriptors alone. Even if I photoshop everyone to have the
same skin
colour, you'll still be able to tell.
Yep - because we have been taught that dark skin = black race;
light skin = white race; etc.
And yeah, change the skin tone and you'll likely have an easy
time telling from facial features, unless you are looking
at a third or fourth generation 'mixed race.' In that case,
I dare say they may not be as easy to spot!
This means that race exists. When people select actors for an advertisement, for "Diversity", they select on race.
You cannot then argue it does not exist, when people use racial signifiers ROUTINELY and SUCCESSFULLY to categorise people.
My point is that they should NOT do this. People should be
identified by how they ARE and not how they LOOK.
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Boraxman wrote to jimmylogan <=-
Re: race
By: jimmylogan to Gamgee on Tue May 20 2025 08:38 pm
Witness today "scientists" now saying that sex is not a binary, that
the spectrum is real. Even popularisers like Neil Degrasse Tyson and
Bill Nye have supported this. Science has always been willing to
support whatever the regime needed.
Another great example of 'scientists' saying things, based
on ideals rather than facts.
The answer is obviously yes, as we use race ALL THE TIME. Even those
who say race does not exist, use it ALL THE TIME. Now, whether it
should be called "Race" or "ethnicity" or "group", well, thats just semantics.
This I agree with. I think 'race' is a bad term. Cultural
group or something like that is better, in my opinion.
There are no 'white' people nor 'black' people. We all
have different levels of melanin in our bodies, so we
have different skin TONE. Some are darker; some are
lighter.
jimmylogan wrote to Gamgee <=-
Gamgee wrote to jimmylogan <=-
jimmylogan wrote to Gamgee <=-
As for the 'one race' thing - we are ALL one "RACE" - there are
different ethnicities, but we are all human. I think there are
STILL a lot of people that miss that point...
Not exactly correct. We are *NOT* all one race. We (humans) are all
one *species*, but not all one *race*. Big difference.
So, I think you are among those who have missed that point...
I hear you, and I appreciate the correction, but I think this comes
down to how we define race.
Not really. There is a clear definition of what race is, and it's not open to your personal interpretation. It's biology/science, and
factual.
Can you give me an example? I've read a lot of references on
this tonight, and the general consensus has changed over time.
Race is now broadly considered a social construct rather than
a biological one.
Have you looked into the "one drop" rule? The geographical
theory? Do you consider races to be subspecies?
Biologically, you are right: humans are all one species: Homo sapiens. Scientifically, race is often considered a social construct with no significant biological basis. The Human Genome Project confirmed we
are over 99.9% genetically identical across all so-called races.
Again, "biology" *is* science. There aren't two definitions. Species
is one thing, and race is another. You don't get to create your own definition.
You're right, I don't get to make up definitions. So whose do
we follow? Scientists today? Or scientists from the past? As
a wise man once said, science doesn't say anything - **scientists**
do. In other words, science is a process of gathering and interpreting data. If it always delivered absolute facts, its conclusions
wouldn't change over time.
But my original point was more moral and spiritual: we are one
human race with different ethnicities, cultures, and appearances,
but all made in the image of God (Genesis 1:27). That is not ignoring
our differences but instead it recognizes our shared humanity.
When discussing scientific / technical things (of any sort), it's important to use proper terminology to avoid misunderstandings. There
is no such thing as the "human race". It really is that simple. There
is the human species, which has multiple races. That's how science
works. Words matter.
As for your point about "proper terminology," I agree that words
matter - which is why I checked a few sources. Here's how **dictionary.com** defines things:
**Species** A group of related individuals that resemble one
another, breed among themselves, and are biologically distinct
from other such groups. Also: a group of persons related by
common descent or heredity.
**Race** Multiple definitions:
1) A group of persons related by common descent or heredity.
3a) *(no longer in technical use)* traditional divisions of humankind.
3b) An arbitrary classification based on physical characteristics
(skin, eye shape, etc.).
3c) A **socially constructed** category based on appearance,
ancestry, or shared culture.
6) *The human race* - humankind.
So... while you might not like the phrase 'human race,'
it's still used, even in formal dictionaries, as a synonym
for humankind. It carries spiritual and moral weight, and yes,
it still exists in scientific and educational language as a
broad reference to all people.
If you're discussing gene flow or breeding populations,
sure - use precise taxonomy. But if you're talking about
our shared humanity and dignity, I still say 'one race -
the human race' fits just fine.
Nightfox wrote to MRO <=-
Re: Re: race
By: MRO to jimmylogan on Fri May 23 2025 02:21 pm
the spectrum is real. Even popularisers like Neil Degrasse Tyson and
Bill Nye have supported this. Science has always been willing to
bill nye is not an authority on any of the stuff he speaks on. he's a weird fucker too.
You replied to jimmylogan, but it looks like you quoted something from someone else (probably Boraxman?).
Boraxman wrote to jimmylogan <=-
The "race is just a pigment of your imagination" was designed to
changes peoples attitudes, but it was the wrong approach. You can't
lie to people to change their attitudes, because they'll realise the
lie, and discard the lesson that accompanied the lie.
Some argue that when we all become "mixed" then this won't be an
issue, but that is a horrendous idea, and I think has a deeper,
underlying evil motivation behind it.
You cannot then argue it does not exist, when people use racial signifiers ROUTINELY and SUCCESSFULLY to categorise people.
My point is that they should NOT do this. People should be
identified by how they ARE and not how they LOOK.
Now it is incorrect to attribute a specific racial stereotype to an individual, if that is what you mean. However you obviously can tell peoples ancestry from sight alone. You'd know I'm European, and not
Asian or African or Australian Aboriginal by looking at me.
Boraxman wrote to jimmylogan <=-
I think the 'lay person" understanding, is correct. When I say "lay person" I mean those who aren't trying to abide by a Politically
Correct view. People, free of any particular ideological motivation reflexively understand, that Europeans and Sub-Saharan Africans kind
of belong to two distrinct groups, and within those, there are sub
groups. Nobody would see Greeks, Italians, Chinese and Japanese, and
see four wholly distinct groups, they would see two sets of two. This shows two levels of clustering. Clearly observable.
Gamgee wrote to jimmylogan <=-
jimmylogan wrote to Gamgee <=-
Gamgee wrote to jimmylogan <=-
jimmylogan wrote to Gamgee <=-
As for the 'one race' thing - we are ALL one "RACE" - there are
different ethnicities, but we are all human. I think there are
STILL a lot of people that miss that point...
Not exactly correct. We are *NOT* all one race. We (humans) are all
one *species*, but not all one *race*. Big difference.
So, I think you are among those who have missed that point...
I hear you, and I appreciate the correction, but I think this comes
down to how we define race.
Not really. There is a clear definition of what race is, and it's not open to your personal interpretation. It's biology/science, and
factual.
Can you give me an example? I've read a lot of references on
this tonight, and the general consensus has changed over time.
Race is now broadly considered a social construct rather than
a biological one.
Have you looked into the "one drop" rule? The geographical
theory? Do you consider races to be subspecies?
Biologically, you are right: humans are all one species: Homo sapiens. Scientifically, race is often considered a social construct with no significant biological basis. The Human Genome Project confirmed we
are over 99.9% genetically identical across all so-called races.
Again, "biology" *is* science. There aren't two definitions. Species
is one thing, and race is another. You don't get to create your own definition.
You're right, I don't get to make up definitions. So whose do
we follow? Scientists today? Or scientists from the past? As
a wise man once said, science doesn't say anything - **scientists**
do. In other words, science is a process of gathering and interpreting data. If it always delivered absolute facts, its conclusions
wouldn't change over time.
But my original point was more moral and spiritual: we are one
human race with different ethnicities, cultures, and appearances,
but all made in the image of God (Genesis 1:27). That is not ignoring
our differences but instead it recognizes our shared humanity.
When discussing scientific / technical things (of any sort), it's important to use proper terminology to avoid misunderstandings. There
is no such thing as the "human race". It really is that simple. There
is the human species, which has multiple races. That's how science
works. Words matter.
As for your point about "proper terminology," I agree that words
matter - which is why I checked a few sources. Here's how **dictionary.com** defines things:
**Species** A group of related individuals that resemble one
another, breed among themselves, and are biologically distinct
from other such groups. Also: a group of persons related by
common descent or heredity.
**Race** Multiple definitions:
1) A group of persons related by common descent or heredity.
3a) *(no longer in technical use)* traditional divisions of humankind.
3b) An arbitrary classification based on physical characteristics
(skin, eye shape, etc.).
3c) A **socially constructed** category based on appearance,
ancestry, or shared culture.
6) *The human race* - humankind.
So... while you might not like the phrase 'human race,'
it's still used, even in formal dictionaries, as a synonym
for humankind. It carries spiritual and moral weight, and yes,
it still exists in scientific and educational language as a
broad reference to all people.
If you're discussing gene flow or breeding populations,
sure - use precise taxonomy. But if you're talking about
our shared humanity and dignity, I still say 'one race -
the human race' fits just fine.
You can still say whatever you want. It doesn't change the facts about what species and race are. When you write words that you claim are "quotes" from a site like dictionary.com, but in reality *paraphrase*
what was there to suit your own needs, you become someone that I won't discuss the subject with any longer. Go back to school and actually
learn something, and quit trying to be a "social warrior". Bye.
... Ignorance can be cured. Stupid is forever.
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Boraxman wrote to jimmylogan <=-
The "race is just a pigment of your imagination" was designed to
changes peoples attitudes, but it was the wrong approach. You can't
lie to people to change their attitudes, because they'll realise the
lie, and discard the lesson that accompanied the lie.
Yep - because men are evil at heart. People WANT to be racists,
because it's easier.
Some argue that when we all become "mixed" then this won't be an
issue, but that is a horrendous idea, and I think has a deeper,
underlying evil motivation behind it.
Why horrendous?
Technically we are all from the same group of ancestors anyway.
Adam and Eve, specifically, but even after that, the eight on
the ark spawned the repopulation.
You cannot then argue it does not exist, when people use racial signifiers ROUTINELY and SUCCESSFULLY to categorise people.
My point is that they should NOT do this. People should be
identified by how they ARE and not how they LOOK.
Now it is incorrect to attribute a specific racial stereotype to an individual, if that is what you mean. However you obviously can tell peoples ancestry from sight alone. You'd know I'm European, and not
Asian or African or Australian Aboriginal by looking at me.
Ancestral - yes - but I look more white than anything, so should
I be blamed for slavery in the distant past? Should a 'black'
person be blamed for crime in another city?
These are stereotypes and have nothing to do with the
individual.
To be blunt, I was NOT raised this way. I was raised by a VERY
biggoted man - my father. In the south, it was normal. Thankfully
I have made my own decisions as I grew up and realized this was
NOT the proper way to think or act.
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Boraxman wrote to jimmylogan <=-
I think the 'lay person" understanding, is correct. When I say "lay person" I mean those who aren't trying to abide by a Politically
Correct view. People, free of any particular ideological motivation reflexively understand, that Europeans and Sub-Saharan Africans kind
of belong to two distrinct groups, and within those, there are sub
groups. Nobody would see Greeks, Italians, Chinese and Japanese, and
see four wholly distinct groups, they would see two sets of two. This shows two levels of clustering. Clearly observable.
I don't deny that at all. If you go back to the Tower of Babal
account, people were staying together instead of spreading out
and repopulating the earth after the flood. God broke up their
language and they clustered at that point. They spread out
and over generations they got paler skin, darker skin, etc.
Facial features would cluster too. If you have people with
certain gene types (light hair dominant, dark regressive)
and they breed with another of the same, the offspring
will share this. Eventually the dark will be so far
regressive that it will only come up in RARE instances.
Now that's a basic way of saying it, but I hope you understand
what I'm saying...
jimmylogan wrote to Boraxman <=-
Some argue that when we all become "mixed" then this won't be an
issue, but that is a horrendous idea, and I think has a deeper,
underlying evil motivation behind it.
Why horrendous?
Technically we are all from the same group of ancestors anyway.
Adam and Eve, specifically, but even after that, the eight on
the ark spawned the repopulation.
I suppose we'll have white folks clinking to what used to be the status
quo and the rest of the county integrating cultures and ethnicities for
some time.
Very simply put. This "mixing" is occuring in white countries. If you go to Nigeria, Korea, Japan, China, Cameroon, Nepal, you won't see that.jimmylogan wrote to Boraxman <=-
Some argue that when we all become "mixed" then this won't be an
issue, but that is a horrendous idea, and I think has a deeper, underlying evil motivation behind it.
Why horrendous?
Technically we are all from the same group of ancestors anyway.
Adam and Eve, specifically, but even after that, the eight on
the ark spawned the repopulation.
It won't happen in our generation. Maybe the next. I drove by a
schoolyard in my old neighborhood a few years back and looked at the
kids. I didn't see white kids, black kids, brown kids, yellow kids -- I
saw a mix of ethnicities.
I suppose we'll have white folks clinking to what used to be the status
quo and the rest of the county integrating cultures and ethnicities for
some time.
I suppose we'll have white folks clinking to what used to be the status quo
and the rest of the county integrating cultures and ethnicities for some
time.
Very simply put. This "mixing" is occuring in white countries. If you go to Nigeria, Korea, Japan, China, Cameroon, Nepal, you won't see that.
See other nations will be able to maintain their identity. White nations become a "mix". So white people, and only white people disappear.
This "the world will mix" is a pernicious and evil lie, a lie that needs to die.
The world will NOT become one race. East Asians, Indians, Sub Saharan africans will remain as they are. The end result is one group of people going. That is why it is horrendous.
Anyone still advocating this should really be forced to look at themselves hard in the mirror.
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Re: Re: race
By: Boraxman to poindexter FORTRAN
on Sat May 31 2025 02:23 pm
the status quoI suppose we'll have white folks clinking to what used to be
and the rest of the county integrating cultures and ethnicities for some
time.
Very simply put. This "mixing" is occuring in whitecountries. If you go
to Nigeria, Korea, Japan, China, Cameroon, Nepal, you won't see that.
See other nations will be able to maintain their identity.White nations
become a "mix". So white people, and only white people disappear.
What identity, specifically, are you referring to? I'm not sure a country's identity is mainly defined by the skin color of its
residents. It's maybe a statistical factor, but I think the main
identity of a country is its cultural beliefs, norms, history, etc.
This "the world will mix" is a pernicious and evil lie, a liethat needs
to die.
The world will NOT become one race. East Asians, Indians, SubSaharan
africans will remain as they are. The end result is one group of people going. That is why it is horrendous.
Anyone still advocating this should really be forced to lookat themselves
hard in the mirror.
I've visited Brazil a few times, and while there are groups of certain ethniticies there, one thing I thought was interesting is that it seems there are a lot more mixed-race people in Brazil than there are in the
US. Also, I felt like race/skin color isn't really talked about a whole lot there. It's like they just don't really make it an issue. In some ways, I feel like all the talk about race in the US only draws focus to it, and perhaps contributes to people of different ethniticites staying apart. The US ended segregation decades ago, but I feel like there's still a perhaps unconscious desire people have to stay around people of their own skin color. But I believe in Martin Luther King Jr.'s
message, that skin color shouldn't matter, and I think everyone should
be able to live together and mix. Though I know that isn't necessarily the reality today.
Maybe this is a speficially American thing, where you are taught that
you have no identity? Elsewhere around the world, this is not a
question. I'm in Australia, but from Southern European heritage, and I
can tell you in my ancestral country, there is utterly no question at
all of who "we" are. They consider me one of them, even though I was
born in Australia.
I'm thinking you are in the USA? Empires tend to think like this.
The difference then is that countries like Mexico, Brazil, Peru,
Nicaragua, all those central American countries which people seem to be
seeking to flee to go to the USA illegally, are "Blended". You may not
have seen much focus on race, but I've heard differently, including from
people who lived there. I think it is clear which approach is better.
You can tell from where people are moving from, and where they want to
move to. The British approach is clearly better.
As for MLK, he was a product of his time. This post WWII ideal is in my
view, dead, and should be buried. I still cannot believe people are
pushing for this social message. I put it down to people who just haven't realised the world has changed, and still think its the late 20th century.
Ask the Whites in South Africa how things are going. Ask Australias
how the mass immigration is working out. Or the English.
It won't happen in our generation. Maybe the next. I drove by a
schoolyard in my old neighborhood a few years back and looked at the
kids. I didn't see white kids, black kids, brown kids, yellow kids -- I
saw a mix of ethnicities.
I suppose we'll have white folks clinking to what used to be the status
quo and the rest of the county integrating cultures and ethnicities for
some time.
See other nations will be able to maintain their identit.y White nations become a "mix". So white people, and only white people disappear.
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