Hello,ãJust thought I would throw out a couple of questions. Do you own a drone? Ifãso, what do you use it for and how often? I have a DJI Phantom 3 Standard. Iãhave used it only a handful of times on vacation when we rent a place. I haveãgotten really nice areal videos. It was fun to operate and still is but sadly Iãdon't get that much time with it and of course, weather has to be good. ããWhat are your experiences?ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ outwestbbs.com - the Outwest BBSã

Re: Drone Usageã By: grasshopper to All on Mon Jun 22 2020 10:27 pmãã > Hello,ã > Just thought I would throw out a couple of questions. Do you own a drone?ã > If so, what do you use it for and how often? I have a DJI Phantom 3ã > Standard. I have used it only a handful of times on vacation when we rent aã > place. I have gotten really nice areal videos. It was fun to operate andã > still is but sadly I don't get that much time with it and of course, weatherã > has to be good.ã >ã > What are your experiences?ããI have the same drone, among some other cheaper ones (e.g. from Banggood.com). I barely use it, but when I did, I got some good vids:ãhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRfKjil4zb0ãhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLWUUV35PJIãã digital manããSynchronet "Real Fact" #7:ãThe name "Synchronet" was suggested by Steve Deppe (Ille Homine Albe) in 1991.ãNorco, CA WX: 66.6øF, 82.0% humidity, 0 mph SE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

On 06-22-20 22:27, grasshopper wrote to All <=-ãã gr> @VIA: VERT/OUTWESTã gr> Hello,ã gr> Just thought I would throw out a couple of questions. Do you own aã gr> drone? If so, what do you use it for and how often? I have a DJIã gr> Phantom 3 Standard. I have used it only a handful of times on vacationã gr> when we rent a place. I have gotten really nice areal videos. It wasã gr> fun to operate and still is but sadly I don't get that much time withã gr> it and of course, weather has to be good.ããI've only played with a cheap drone. It took OK video, but had some controlãissues that could render it unusable at times. Hoping one day to get a betterãdrone one day. Though a big challenge is finding places to legally fly them -ãbetween the proximity of the local airport, a helipad and much of the openãspace being managed by Parks Victoria (where it's illegal to fly drones),ãthere's only a few sports fields that can be used, since I haven't seenãanything prohibiting drones in the local bylaws. But have to make sure theyãare empty, to ensure one can comply with the aviation regs.ããBut drones do have a lot of cool uses, when in the right hands.ããã... Honk if you love peace and quiet.ã--- MultiMail/Win v0.51ã þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS, Bendigo Australia. freeway.apana.org.auã

Re: Re: Drone Usageã By: Vk3jed to grasshopper on Tue Jun 23 2020 08:20 pmãã > ã > I've only played with a cheap drone. It took OK video, but had some controlã > issues that could render it unusable at times. Hoping one day to get a bettã > drone one day. Though a big challenge is finding places to legally fly themã > between the proximity of the local airport, a helipad and much of the openã > space being managed by Parks Victoria (where it's illegal to fly drones),ã > there's only a few sports fields that can be used, since I haven't seenã > anything prohibiting drones in the local bylaws. But have to make sure theyã > are empty, to ensure one can comply with the aviation regs.ã > ã > But drones do have a lot of cool uses, when in the right hands.ã > ã > ã > ... Honk if you love peace and quiet.ããI've considered buying a drone. I have 5 acres of my own land, plus80 acresãof farmland behind it and 40 in front I have permission from the neighbors toãwalk/ hunt on. The major airports are over 20 miles away, and even theãsmaller private fields are more than 8 miles. While I have space or accessãto it, I'm at the point I have enough hobbies. I wish these were around whenãI was younger.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ The Cave BBS - Since 1992 - cavebbs.homeip.netã

Re: Drone Usageã By: grasshopper to All on Mon Jun 22 2020 10:27 pmãã > Hello,ã > Just thought I would throw out a couple of questions. Do you own a drone? ã > so, what do you use it for and how often? I have a DJI Phantom 3 Standard. ã > have used it only a handful of times on vacation when we rent a place. I haã > gotten really nice areal videos. It was fun to operate and still is but sadlã > don't get that much time with it and of course, weather has to be good. ãã > What are your experiences?ããi got a drone for christmas. i think there was something wrong with it.ãi pushed the button to hover it and it would always go off to the side. couldntãcalibrate it.ããanyways, i threw it out. the end.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Re: Re: Drone Usageã By: Vk3jed to grasshopper on Tue Jun 23 2020 08:20 pmãã > better drone one day. Though a big challenge is finding places to legallyã > fly them - between the proximity of the local airport, a helipad and much ofã > the open space being managed by Parks Victoria (where it's illegal to flyã > drones), there's only a few sports fields that can be used, since I haven'tã > seen anything prohibiting drones in the local bylaws. But have to make sureã > they are empty, to ensure one can comply with the aviation regs.ããYes, that is part of the struggle is to find a place to fly. I have downloaded the Android App "AirMap" to help me with where to fly. And from where I stand there are so many overlapping Controlled Air Spaces that I basically can't fly anywhere near where my house is. :( So, that makes it a bit difficult. So, I understand your pain! :)ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ The Meditative Mind - Fitchburg, WI - telnet://oneness-bbs.dragonflymoon.orgã

On 06-23-20 07:22, Moondog wrote to Vk3jed <=-ãã Mo> I've considered buying a drone. I have 5 acres of my own land, plus80ã Mo> acres of farmland behind it and 40 in front I have permission from theã Mo> neighbors to walk/ hunt on. The major airports are over 20 miles away,ã Mo> and even the smaller private fields are more than 8 miles. While IããSounds like a great place to fly a drone. :)ãã Mo> have space or access to it, I'm at the point I have enough hobbies. Iã Mo> wish these were around when I was younger.ããHaha join the club, I certainly don't have any trouble filling in my spareãtime, and my hobby project list seems to keep growing! :) With around 10ãhours/week or more taken up with sports training, time is getting tight again.ã:)ããã... You know you're getting old when the candles cost more than the cake.ã--- MultiMail/Win v0.51ã þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS, Bendigo Australia. freeway.apana.org.auã

On 06-23-20 19:18, Grasshopper wrote to Vk3jed <=-ãã Gr> Yes, that is part of the struggle is to find a place to fly. I haveã Gr> downloaded the Android App "AirMap" to help me with where to fly. Andã Gr> from where I stand there are so many overlapping Controlled Air Spacesã Gr> that I basically can't fly anywhere near where my house is. :( So, thatã Gr> makes it a bit difficult. So, I understand your pain! :)ããActually, airspace is the easy part. There is airspace here, and the apps areãgreat at finding free airspace. It's the parks authorities that are theãbiggest pain. They manage land all around here, and their website is notãmobile friendly. They don't have an app or seem to link to any drone apps thatãI know of, so unless one is really careful, it would be easy to get a $3k fine.ã:/ããã... When you learn the answers, they change the questions.ã--- MultiMail/Win v0.51ã þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS, Bendigo Australia. freeway.apana.org.auã

What are your experiences?ãã I don't own one...but a fellow railfan, Danny Harmon, usesãone in his videos. I know a former ham radio operator who hadãseveral, but he passed away suddenly just over a year ago.ããDarylãã... Dog expelled from Obedience School: Kid ate his homework.ã--- MultiMail/Win32 v0.50ã þ Synchronet þ The Thunderbolt BBS - tbolt.synchro.netã

Re: Re: Drone Usageã By: Daryl Stout to grasshopper on Wed Jun 24 2020 01:47 pmããHello Daryl,ãã > one in his videos. I know a former ham radio operator who hadã > several, but he passed away suddenly just over a year ago.ããI am also a fellow HAM. AC9RE. Also ARRL member!ã 73's,ãGrasshopper (aka John Angel)ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ The Meditative Mind - telnet://oneness-bbs.dragonflymoon.orgã

Re: Re: Drone Usageã By: Vk3jed to Moondog on Wed Jun 24 2020 07:18 pmãã > -=> On 06-23-20 07:22, Moondog wrote to Vk3jed <=-ã > ã > Mo> I've considered buying a drone. I have 5 acres of my own land, plus80ã > Mo> acres of farmland behind it and 40 in front I have permission from theã > Mo> neighbors to walk/ hunt on. The major airports are over 20 miles away,ã > Mo> and even the smaller private fields are more than 8 miles. While Iã > ã > Sounds like a great place to fly a drone. :)ã > ã > Mo> have space or access to it, I'm at the point I have enough hobbies. Iã > Mo> wish these were around when I was younger.ã > ã > Haha join the club, I certainly don't have any trouble filling in my spareã > time, and my hobby project list seems to keep growing! :) With around 10ã > hours/week or more taken up with sports training, time is getting tight agaiã > :)ã > ã > ã > ... You know you're getting old when the candles cost more than the cake.ããMy grandmother's farm was 160 acres. 100 was farm and the other 60 wasãwooded or reclaimed to forest. I loved going camping out there as well asãhunting. There were spots where we could shoot our rifles out to 500 yards.ãThe local clubs and ranges were usually limited to 200 yards. Shooting outãto 200 is not that hard but after 350 yards factors such as trajectory needãto be factored in.ããFor a couple of years back in the 1980's some selct cut lumber was harvested,ãand the loggers left some trails that we continued to maintain through theãwoods. I'm sure flying a drone via a camera feed would've been fun alongãthose trails.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ The Cave BBS - Since 1992 - cavebbs.homeip.netã

John,ãã Gr> I am also a fellow HAM. AC9RE. Also ARRL member!ãã I'm a Life Member of ARRL, Courage Kenny Handi-Hams, and the QCWA;ãthen a regular member of PCARS (Ohio), PDRA (Pennsylvania), MDARC,ã(Tennessee), and BCFMCA (Canada)...plus the VE Team Liaison for theãUALR Ham Radio Club. More info is in my bio on QRZ, and in my D-Rats ãshared folder. Being licensed since 1991, you'll see I've been busyã(hi hi).ãã I had some packet and Winlink messages I had to take care of,ãafter I got back from medical appointments this morning. I preferãto do those early in the day, before the summertime thunderstormsãdevelop, and before it gets too hot and humid.ããDaryl, WX4QZãã... Do not try to cure this ham.ã--- MultiMail/Win32 v0.50ã þ Synchronet þ The Thunderbolt BBS - tbolt.synchro.netã

Re: Amateur Radioã By: Daryl Stout to Grasshopper on Thu Jun 25 2020 12:14 pmãã > then a regular member of PCARS (Ohio), PDRA (Pennsylvania), MDARC,ã > (Tennessee), and BCFMCA (Canada)...plus the VE Team Liaison for theããYes, I use to be in 4 land. My original call-sign was KE4DFG. I lived in Memphis, TN at the time. I believe I also got my license in 1991 also! I was initially a no-code Technician. Later changed it to a regular Technician license. When trying to upgrade to general class, it appeared that the code portion for Technician wasn't recorded properly and had to take it again. Well, at that time I was practicing for 13 wpm, so 5 wpm was a piece of cake. :)ããJohn - AC9REãã---ã þ Synchronet þ The Meditative Mind - telnet://oneness-bbs.dragonflymoon.orgã

John,ãã Gr> Yes, I use to be in 4 land. My original call-sign was KE4DFG. I livedã Gr> in Memphis, TN at the time. I believe I also got my license in 1991ã Gr> also! I was initially a no-code Technician. Later changed it to aã Gr> regular Technician license. When trying to upgrade to general class, itã Gr> appeared that the code portion for Technician wasn't recorded properlyã Gr> and had to take it again. Well, at that time I was practicing for 13ã Gr> wpm, so 5 wpm was a piece of cake. :)ãã I did try a 5 WPM CW exam before the FCC got rid of it, and failed it.ãHad I filled in the blanks, I might have passed it...but, it's a mootãpoint now.ãã One local ham (who became a Silent Key long ago from a heart attack),ãand his wife (she was licensed as well, and has since remarried), wereãgreat friends. I asked him what his secret was to learning CW, and heãsaid "I learned all the dirty words first" (hi hi). I laughed, and said,ã"Well, you can't say them on the air, but if it helps, more power to you".ãã One night, a club out of Dallas, was doing a CW course on the localãrepeater (I copied them off of Echolink), and the first letters theyãtaught formed the S expletive (hi hi). I thought "I'll be damned!!".ãBut, when you looked at the dot and dash pattern, it made perfect sense.ãã However, the funniest story I heard (I might have shared this before,ãbut don't remember) about CW went like this.ãã Four guys were at a restaurant table in Annapolis, Maryland...tellingãeach other dirty jokes in CW. This drop dead, gorgeous, curvaceous,ãfemale walked over to them, and sternly admonished them...saying "Youãboys need to watch your language. I teach CW at the Naval Academyãacross the street", and walked out!! They were as red as tomatoes...ãand that's a true story!! (hi hi).ãã Yet now, folks are learning CW because they WANT to, and NOT becauseãthey HAVE to...and they're discovering that CW is fun!!ããDaryl, WX4QZãã... Ham Radio Messages And Replies Will Be Sent In Morse Code.ã--- MultiMail/Win32 v0.50ã þ Synchronet þ The Thunderbolt BBS - tbolt.synchro.netã

On 06-24-20 22:15, Moondog wrote to Vk3jed <=-ãã Mo> My grandmother's farm was 160 acres. 100 was farm and the other 60 wasã Mo> wooded or reclaimed to forest. I loved going camping out there as wellã Mo> as hunting. There were spots where we could shoot our rifles out toã Mo> 500 yards. The local clubs and ranges were usually limited to 200ã Mo> yards. Shooting out to 200 is not that hard but after 350 yardsã Mo> factors such as trajectory need to be factored in.ããYeah, 500 yards, nice for a shooting range. Definitely a good place to work onãyour aim and technique. I haven't been shooting for over 40 years myself, itãjust became too hard, with the townies moving out to the bush. I have toyedãwith the idea of going to a local gun club when they have open days, but timingãhasn't worked out so far. Not that I have time for a new sport or hobbyãanyway! :D Or money for that matter - I'm transitioning into a more expensiveãphase on the track, where training and travel expenses start to mount, butãthat's all good. :)ãã Mo> For a couple of years back in the 1980's some selct cut lumber wasã Mo> harvested, and the loggers left some trails that we continued toã Mo> maintain through the woods. I'm sure flying a drone via a camera feedã Mo> would've been fun along those trails.ããYeah, some nice footage could be had from a drone in places like that. Onlyãway that would be doable here would be on private land, since public land ofãthat type generally comes under Parks, and as I've said in previous messages,ãthat's no go for flying. ããã... STUPIDITY is NOT a HANDICAP! Park elsewhere!ã--- MultiMail/Win v0.51ã þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS, Bendigo Australia. freeway.apana.org.auã

GRASSHOPPER wrote to ALL <=-ãã GR> Just thought I would throw out a couple of questions. Do you own aã GR> drone? If so, what do you use it for and how often? I have a DJIããWife has one, but hasn't flown it for a few years now. Mainly just for fun,ãdoing some arial photography for fun, you know. Did some recording at a ãtractor pull.ããIt's a 4k unit I bought her at Best Buy, but I don't remember the brand...ãã GR> Phantom 3 Standard. I have used it only a handful of times on vacationã GR> when we rent a place. I have gotten really nice areal videos. It wasã GR> fun to operate and still is but sadly I don't get that much time withã GR> it and of course, weather has to be good.ãã GR> What are your experiences?ãããããã... Tagline II: The Sequel.ã--- MultiMail/Mac v0.52ã þ wcQWK 8.0 ÷ Omicron Theta * Memphis, TN * winserver.orgã

VK3JED wrote to MOONDOG <=-ãã Mo> have space or access to it, I'm at the point I have enough hobbies. Iã Mo> wish these were around when I was younger.ãã VK> Haha join the club, I certainly don't have any trouble filling in myã VK> spare time, and my hobby project list seems to keep growing! :) Withã VK> around 10 hours/week or more taken up with sports training, time isã VK> getting tight again. :)ããYep! Same here! Have too many interests and not nearly enough time. :-)ããããã... You may start by impressing - _ME_ !! - Worfã--- MultiMail/Mac v0.52ã þ wcQWK 8.0 ÷ Omicron Theta * Memphis, TN * winserver.orgã

GRASSHOPPER wrote to DARYL STOUT <=-ãã > one in his videos. I know a former ham radio operator who hadã > several, but he passed away suddenly just over a year ago.ãã GR> I am also a fellow HAM. AC9RE. Also ARRL member!ã GR> 73's,ã GR> Grasshopper (aka John Angel)ããYet another hobby I don't have a ton of time for - LOL.ããããã... [COUPON] Good for one FREEE Tagline! [COUPON]ã--- MultiMail/Mac v0.52ã þ wcQWK 8.0 ÷ Omicron Theta * Memphis, TN * winserver.orgã

On 07-03-20 11:00, JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to VK3JED <=-ãã JA> Yep! Same here! Have too many interests and not nearly enough time. :-)ããHaha yep. :) I've added another 4-5 hours/week of sports training, as I'veãhired a strength and conditioning coach. :)ããã... Planet 98% full. Delete politicians? (Y/y)ã--- MultiMail/Win v0.51ã þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS, Bendigo Australia. freeway.apana.org.auã

On 07-03-20 11:02, JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to GRASSHOPPER <=-ãã JA> @VIA: VERT/OTHETAã -=> GRASSHOPPER wrote to DARYL STOUT <=-ãã > one in his videos. I know a former ham radio operator who hadã > several, but he passed away suddenly just over a year ago.ãã GR> I am also a fellow HAM. AC9RE. Also ARRL member!ã GR> 73's,ã GR> Grasshopper (aka John Angel)ãã JA> Yet another hobby I don't have a ton of time for - LOL.ããLOL another one that occupies a bit of my time. :)ããã... Let the meek inherit the Earth, I want the stars.ã--- MultiMail/Win v0.51ã þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS, Bendigo Australia. freeway.apana.org.auã

Jimmy,ãã JA> Yet another hobby I don't have a ton of time for - LOL.ãã Do you, Ham...take Radio...to be your lawfully wedded spouse?? <G>ãã You can find out with "The Triple Play" -- 3 skits in one, atãhttps://www.theweatherwonder.com/elk.htmããDaryl, WX4QZãã... DO NOT WRITE BELOW THIS LINE -- FOR SYSOP USE ONLY.ã--- MultiMail/Win v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ The Thunderbolt BBS - tbolt.synchro.netã

Tony,ãã JA> Yet another hobby I don't have a ton of time for - LOL.ãã Vk> LOL another one that occupies a bit of my time. :)ãã Just a wee bit?? <G>ããDarylãã... I multi-task -- I read in the bathroom.ã--- MultiMail/Win v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ The Thunderbolt BBS - tbolt.synchro.netã

Jimmy,ãã JA> Yep! Same here! Have too many interests and not nearly enough time. :-)ãã That's the same thing with ham radio traffic nets...too many nets,ãand too little time.ãã Back in 2006, I started a page on Echolink Nets...but several monthsãago, in noting that the nets page at dstarinfo.com had quite a bit ofãoutdated info, I started a list of D-Star and D-Rats Nets...to go withãthe Echolink Nets. Then, I added links to CQ100, DMR, D-Star HF,ãHamsphere, and recently discovered "Christian Nets".ãã The list is about evenly split between D-Star and Echolink Nets,ãwith a few D-Rats nets for good measure. You can get a copy of it atãhttps://www.theweatherwonder.com/elk.htm -- it's the first entry onãthe page. There are nearly 150 nets in that file...if that doesn'tãsatisfy these "net hoppers", nothing will.ãã It got to be such a mad rush on checkins, that I'm on the air onlyãfor nets that I run, and a few selected other nets. If I can't run aãnet due to weather, internet, or health issues, I try to get someoneãelse to take Net Control. But, for the others, if I don't feel likeãchecking into them, I don't...and I don't lose any sleep over it.ããDaryl, WX4QZãã... Do not try to cure this ham.ã--- MultiMail/Win v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ The Thunderbolt BBS - tbolt.synchro.netã

On 07-04-20 20:19, Daryl Stout wrote to Vk3jed <=-ãã DS> @VIA: VERT/TBOLTã DS> Tony,ãã JA> Yet another hobby I don't have a ton of time for - LOL.ãã Vk> LOL another one that occupies a bit of my time. :)ãã DS> Just a wee bit?? <G>ããHaha, especially when I've been building a low cost SDR on a Pi. ;)ããã... FOR SYSOP USE ONLY - Do not write below this line.ã--- MultiMail/Win v0.51ã þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS, Bendigo Australia. freeway.apana.org.auã

Re: Re: Drone Usageã By: JIMMY ANDERSON to GRASSHOPPER on Fri Jul 03 2020 10:58 amããHello Jimmy,ããJA> doing some arial photography for fun, you know. Did some recording at aãJA> tractor pull.ããI didn't know they allow one to fly a drone at events like that. Interesting... I thought about doing that but I thought people would be upset at me for doing so. Plus, the people holding the event, I thought would not be happy about it either.ãDid you get permission for such a thing?ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ The Meditative Mind - telnet://oneness-bbs.dragonflymoon.orgã

GRASSHOPPER wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-ãã JA> doing some arial photography for fun, you know. Did some recording at aã JA> tractor pull.ãã GR> I didn't know they allow one to fly a drone at events like that.ã GR> Interesting... I thought about doing that but I thought people would beã GR> upset at me for doing so. Plus, the people holding the event, I thoughtã GR> would not be happy about it either. Did you get permission for such aã GR> thing?ããOne of the relatives of the promoter was doing it at a show. He is a friendãof ours, so we started doing it some too. :-)ããNo one complained, but we are very VERY rural - not in a "city" at all.ãI think it would be frowned upon in any sort of 'big time' setting.ããããã... She got her looks from her father. He's a plastic surgeon.ã--- MultiMail/Mac v0.52ã þ wcQWK 8.0 ÷ Omicron Theta * Memphis, TN * winserver.orgã

JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to GRASSHOPPER <=-ãã -=> GRASSHOPPER wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-ãã JA> doing some arial photography for fun, you know. Did some recording at aã JA> tractor pull.ãã GR> I didn't know they allow one to fly a drone at events like that.ã GR> Interesting... I thought about doing that but I thought people would beã GR> upset at me for doing so. Plus, the people holding the event, I thoughtã GR> would not be happy about it either. Did you get permission for such aã GR> thing?ãã JA> One of the relatives of the promoter was doing it at a show. He is aã JA> friend of ours, so we started doing it some too. :-)ããI've been playing around with a Mavic Mini and doing a lot of reading, ãespecially the rules around what is considered "hobby" versus "commercial".ããBe careful flying around groups, even with permission. Read up on the ãFAA Part 107 rules and the commercial license requirements and what youãcan do with it.ããFlying is a blast but there are jerks that will try to tell you that youãare breaking the law. The best defense is to be informed!ãã... Direct from the Ministry of Silly Walksã--- MultiMail/Win v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ Three Corners and Beyond! http://3corners.usã

HATTON wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-ãã HA> Be careful flying around groups, even with permission. Read up on theã HA> FAA Part 107 rules and the commercial license requirements and what youã HA> can do with it.ãã HA> Flying is a blast but there are jerks that will try to tell you thatã HA> you are breaking the law. The best defense is to be informed!ããGood advice for sure!!!ããã`ãã... Joey, do you like movies about gladiators?ã--- MultiMail/Mac v0.52ã þ wcQWK 8.0 ÷ Omicron Theta * Memphis, TN * winserver.orgã