The latest update for windows 10 (64 bit) is failing with the error code 0x800f081f. Ive followed all the steps from microsoft and still getting the same thing. I have 1.5 gigs free so I dont think its a diskspace issue. Thought I would see if anyone in BBSland might have some other ideas on this one?ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Star Frontiers BBS starfron.synchronetbbs.orgã

Hello Melkor!ãã** On Monday 12.04.21 - 15:03, Melkor wrote to All:ãã M> The latest update for windows 10 (64 bit) is failing with the error codeã M> 0x800f081f. Ive followed all the steps from microsoft and still gettingã M> the same thing. I have 1.5 gigs free so I dont think its a diskspaceã M> issue. Thought I would see if anyone in BBSland might have some otherã M> ideas on this one?ããThis page might help:ããhttps://www.repairwin.com/fix-windows-10-1709-kb4054517-fails- ãto-install-0x800f081f/ããã--- OpenXP 5.0.49ã * Origin: Ogg's Dovenet Point (723:320/1.9)ã þ Synchronet þ CAPCITY2 * capcity2.synchro.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/Rlogin/HTTPã

Re: Windows update.ã By: Ogg to Melkor on Mon Apr 12 2021 04:50 pmãã Og> This page might help:ãã Og> https://www.repairwin.com/fix-windows-10-1709-kb4054517-fails- ã Og> to-install-0x800f081f/ãTried all of that except the last one because its a cheap laptop with out any cd drive.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Star Frontiers BBS starfron.synchronetbbs.orgã

Re: Windows update.ã By: Melkor to All on Mon Apr 12 2021 03:03 pmãã > The latest update for windows 10 (64 bit) is failing with the error codeã > 0x800f081f. Ive followed all the steps from microsoft and still getting theã > same thing. I have 1.5 gigs free so I dont think its a diskspace issue.ã > Thought I would see if anyone in BBSland might have some other ideas on thisã > one?ãã1.5 gigs of free space sounds suspiciously low to me. I'd to get that free space up to a least 10GB before attempting an update of Windows.ã-- ã digital manããSynchronet "Real Fact" #88:ãSBBSecho v3.00 was first committed to cvs.synchro.net on Apr-11-2016.ãNorco, CA WX: 56.3øF, 82.0% humidity, 5 mph ENE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Re: Windows update.ã By: Melkor to All on Mon Apr 12 2021 03:03 pmãã > The latest update for windows 10 (64 bit) is failing with the error codeã > 0x800f081f. Ive followed all the steps from microsoft and still getting theã > same thing. I have 1.5 gigs free so I dont think its a diskspace issue.ã > Thought I would see if anyone in BBSland might have some other ideas on thisã > one?ãã1.5 gigs aint shit.ããget yourself more space available.ããflush your shit and try your updates again.ãthis error might not go away until months later.ããnet stop wuauservãCD %Windir%ãCD SoftwareDistributionãDEL /F /S /Q Downloadãnet start wuauservã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Re: Windows update.ã By: Ogg to Melkor on Mon Apr 12 2021 04:50 pmãã > ** On Monday 12.04.21 - 15:03, Melkor wrote to All:ã >ã > M> The latest update for windows 10 (64 bit) is failing with the error codeã > M> 0x800f081f. Ive followed all the steps from microsoft and still gettingã > M> the same thing. I have 1.5 gigs free so I dont think its a diskspaceã > M> issue. Thought I would see if anyone in BBSland might have some otherã > M> ideas on this one?ã >ã > This page might help:ã >ã > https://www.repairwin.com/fix-windows-10-1709-kb4054517-fails-ã > to-install-0x800f081f/ããit happens on some of my win7 vms. usually the problem goes away on its ownã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Re: Windows update.ã By: Melkor to Ogg on Tue Apr 13 2021 01:48 amãã > Re: Windows update.ã > By: Ogg to Melkor on Mon Apr 12 2021 04:50 pmã >ã > Og> This page might help:ã >ã > Og> https://www.repairwin.com/fix-windows-10-1709-kb4054517-fails-ã > Og> to-install-0x800f081f/ã > Tried all of that except the last one because its a cheap laptop with outã > any cd drive.ããit would be good if you could use a usb flashdrive to install windows. maybe some day we can do that?ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Re: Windows update.ã By: Digital Man to Melkor on Mon Apr 12 2021 08:52 pmãã DM> 1.5 gigs of free space sounds suspiciously low to me. I'd to get that freeã DM> space up to a least 10GB before attempting an update of Windows. -- ã DM> digital manãThat would be nice but its a cheap HP Stream laptop that only has 32GB of eMMC storage.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Star Frontiers BBS starfron.synchronetbbs.orgã

On 13 Apr 2021, Melkor said the following...ã ã Me> DM> 1.5 gigs of free space sounds suspiciously low to me. I'd to get thatã Me> DM> space up to a least 10GB before attempting an update of Windows. -- ã Me> DM> digital manã Me> That would be nice but its a cheap HP Stream laptop that only has 32GBã Me> of eMMC s torage.ããunfortunately newer windows 10 versions seem to require 32gb just baseline. they even list separate criteria for earlier windows 10 versions..ãã--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/04/08 (Windows/32)ã * Origin: cold fusion - cfbbs.net - grand rapids, miã

Hello Melkor!ãã** On Tuesday 13.04.21 - 13:13, Melkor wrote to Digital Man:ãã DM>> 1.5 gigs of free space sounds suspiciously low to me. I'd to get thatã DM>> free space up to a least 10GB before attempting an update of Windows. --ã DM>> digital manãã M> That would be nice but its a cheap HP Stream laptop that only has 32GB ofã M> eMMC storage.ããCan't you rollback to Win7? You'll probably get much better ãperformance. 1.5GB free wouldn't even bode well under Win7.ããã--- OpenXP 5.0.49ã * Origin: Ogg's Dovenet Point (723:320/1.9)ã þ Synchronet þ CAPCITY2 * capcity2.synchro.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/Rlogin/HTTPã

Re: Windows update.ã By: Ogg to Melkor on Tue Apr 13 2021 04:58 pmãã Og> Can't you rollback to Win7? You'll probably get much better ã Og> performance. 1.5GB free wouldn't even bode well under Win7.ãI dont think so. It came with win 10 pre installed.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Star Frontiers BBS starfron.synchronetbbs.orgã

Re: Windows update.ã By: Melkor to Digital Man on Tue Apr 13 2021 01:13 pmãã > Re: Windows update.ã > By: Digital Man to Melkor on Mon Apr 12 2021 08:52 pmã >ã > DM> 1.5 gigs of free space sounds suspiciously low to me. I'd to get thatã > DM> free space up to a least 10GB before attempting an update of Windows.ã > DM> -- digital manã > That would be nice but its a cheap HP Stream laptop that only has 32GB ofã > eMMC storage.ããcan you crack it open and change it?ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

MRO wrote to Melkor <=-ãã MR> it would be good if you could use a usb flashdrive to install windows.ã MR> maybe some day we can do that?ããI do it all the time. Microsoft had a media creation site where you can ãdownload an image for CD or USB. License sold separately.ãããã... Centrifugal force reacts to the rotating frame of reference.ã--- MultiMail/DOS v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ realitycheckBBS -- http://realitycheckBBS.orgã

Can't you rollback to Win7? You'll probably get much better ã Og> performance. 1.5GB free wouldn't even bode well under Win7.ããEven if you could, that would be a bad idea. Windows 7 is no longer receivingãsecurity updates unless you've purchased Extended Security Updates fromãMicrosoft.ããLachlanãã--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Linux/64)ã * Origin: The Bottomless Abyss BBS * bbs.bottomlessabyss.netã

On 13 Apr 2021, poindexter FORTRAN said the following...ã ã pF> MR> it would be good if you could use a usb flashdrive to install windowsã pF> MR> maybe some day we can do that?ã pF> ã pF> I do it all the time. Microsoft had a media creation site where you can ã pF> download an image for CD or USB. License sold separately.ããmissed the sarcasm ? ;)ãã--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/04/08 (Windows/32)ã * Origin: cold fusion - cfbbs.net - grand rapids, miã

Hello Melkor!ãã** On Wednesday 14.04.21 - 02:51, Melkor wrote to Ogg:ãã Og>> Can't you rollback to Win7? You'll probably get muchã Og>> better performance. 1.5GB free wouldn't even bode wellã Og>> under Win7.ãã M> I dont think so. It came with win 10 pre installed.ããI've read a few reviews about those special win 10 ssd-equipped ãlaptops. Most of them were aligned with the idea that they were ãnot good for productive things - not ram upgradeable either.ããCan you try a live linux distro to see if the hardware is ãsuitable?ããMeanwhile, look for some large files that are nolonger needed on ãthe laptop, and free up much more space. 1.5GB free is very ãlikely a contributor to poor performance.ãã--- OpenXP 5.0.49ã * Origin: Ogg's Dovenet Point (723:320/1.9)ã þ Synchronet þ CAPCITY2 * capcity2.synchro.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/Rlogin/HTTPã

Hello lynx769!ãã** On Wednesday 14.04.21 - 13:53, lynx769 wrote to Ogg:ãã Og>> Can't you rollback to Win7? You'll probably get muchã Og>> better performance. 1.5GB free wouldn't even bode wellã Og>> under Win7.ãã l> Even if you could, that would be a bad idea. Windows 7 is noã l> longer receiving security updates unless you've purchasedã l> Extended Security Updates from Microsoft.ããDepends on how one would use Win7. I have Win7 Pro on three ãpcs. No problems whatsoever. I just use the MS Security ãEssentials on them. Infact, I was still getting rollup reminders ãup until a few months ago. My "recent" Thinkpad T540p that I ãacquired in Dec 2019 is waiting for me to acknowledge a few ãrollups.ããMaybe even a linux distro would be good for the Melkor's pc.ãã--- OpenXP 5.0.49ã * Origin: Ogg's Dovenet Point (723:320/1.9)ã þ Synchronet þ CAPCITY2 * capcity2.synchro.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/Rlogin/HTTPã

Re: Re: Windows update.ã By: fusion to Melkor on Tue Apr 13 2021 01:11 pmãã fu> unfortunately newer windows 10 versions seem to require 32gb justã fu> baseline. they even list separate criteria for earlier windows 10ã fu> versions.. ããSo much bloat. I remember when 1GB seemed huge..ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã

Re: Re: Windows update.ã By: Nightfox to fusion on Wed Apr 14 2021 09:06 pmãã > Re: Re: Windows update.ã > By: fusion to Melkor on Tue Apr 13 2021 01:11 pmã >ã > fu> unfortunately newer windows 10 versions seem to require 32gb justã > fu> baseline. they even list separate criteria for earlier windows 10ã > fu> versions..ã >ã > So much bloat. I remember when 1GB seemed huge..ããI paid $1500 for my for first "large" hard disk in the early '90s:ãa 330MB 5.25" full-height Siemens ST506 drive. That was a massive upgrade over my collection of 20-80MB drives at the time and helped to make Vertrauen a popular BBS for image upload/download around that time.ããThen in the mid '90s, an upgrade to 1.2GB drive (another $1300), and I thought I'd never need another hard disk again. :-)ã-- ã digital manããThis Is Spinal Tap quote #41:ãIan Faith: It say's "Memphis show cancelled due to lack of advertising funds."ãNorco, CA WX: 54.7øF, 73.0% humidity, 0 mph ESE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Depends on how one would use Win7. I have Win7 Pro on three ã Og> pcs. No problems whatsoever. I just use the MS Security ã Og> Essentials on them. Infact, I was still getting rollup reminders ããMS Security Essentials does not patch vulnerabilities found in Windowsãitself. Even MSE is on life support. It's no longer available for Windows XPãand virus definitions will no longer be updated after 2023 even for Win7.ããThe fact is, that unless you are enrolled in ESU, all Win 7 machines areãvulnerable. I get it, there are lots of reasons to use old software, but thereãrisks to doing that and it shouldn't be minimized.ããLachlanãã--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Linux/64)ã * Origin: The Bottomless Abyss BBS * bbs.bottomlessabyss.netã

Hello lynx769!ãã** On Thursday 15.04.21 - 12:58, lynx769 wrote to Ogg:ãã l> MS Security Essentials does not patch vulnerabilities foundã l> in Windows itself. Even MSE is on life support. It's noã l> longer available for Windows XP and virus definitions willã l> no longer be updated after 2023 even for Win7.ããI'm not excited about MSE entirely, but it's better than ãnothing. It was a fine performer on XP until it was finally ãdepricated and ceased to function as expected. But a combination ãof SpybotS&D, Malwarebyes and SpywareBlaster seems to be good ãenough. I'll entertain a scan once in a while, and nothing has ãemerged to be a concern.ããAs long as I don't capitulate to phishing emails, and as long as ãI stick with trusted websites, there is no reason for me to be ãafraid to use XP or Win7.ããI would imagine that the phishing emails I get hope to catch ãsomeone who is vulnerable to an unpatched exploit.ãã l> The fact is, that unless you are enrolled in ESU, all Win 7ã l> machines are vulnerable. I get it, there are lots of reasonsã l> to use old software, but there risks to doing that and itã l> shouldn't be minimized.ããI wouldn't try to pass a Win7 pc to someone new to the pc scene. ãBut for myself, I think that I am OK with the Win7 and XP system ãjust fine.ããã--- OpenXP 5.0.49ã * Origin: Ogg's Dovenet Point (723:320/1.9)ã þ Synchronet þ CAPCITY2 * capcity2.synchro.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/Rlogin/HTTPã

Re: Windows update.ã By: Ogg to lynx769 on Thu Apr 15 2021 05:01 pmãã > ã > As long as I don't capitulate to phishing emails, and as long asã > I stick with trusted websites, there is no reason for me to beã > afraid to use XP or Win7.ã > ããThen you visit a website that is posting content from an advertisement networkãthat got compromised, get a malware-infected piece of advertisement, and thenãyour machine belongs to some Russian blackhat mafia.ããYet another reason to hate advertisement networks.ããThere are reasons to stick to old operating systems, but you have to be extraãcareful. I have a Win 7 virtual machine which I run behind a filtering proxy inãorder to minimize vuln impacts, for example.ãã--ãgopher://gopher.richardfalken.com/1/richardfalkenãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FLã

Re: Re: Windows update.ã By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Thu Apr 15 2021 09:15 amãã DM> I paid $1500 for my for first "large" hard disk in the early '90s:ã DM> a 330MB 5.25" full-height Siemens ST506 drive. That was a massive upgradeã DM> over my collection of 20-80MB drives at the time and helped to makeã DM> Vertrauen a popular BBS for image upload/download around that time. ãã DM> Then in the mid '90s, an upgrade to 1.2GB drive (another $1300), and Iã DM> thought I'd never need another hard disk again. :-)ãã:) My first PC was a hand-me-down PC with a 10MB full-height hard drive. For a little while, I used Stacker (and later, MS-DOS's DoubleSpace) to try to get a little extra space out of it.ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã

Hello Arelor!ãã** On Friday 16.04.21 - 02:53, Arelor wrote to Ogg:ãã A> Then you visit a website that is posting content from anã A> advertisement network that got compromised, get a malware-ã A> infected piece of advertisement, and then your machineã A> belongs to some Russian blackhat mafia.ããI have script-killers and ad-blockers on the pcs. If I end up ãon a site that insists that I unblock the adblocker, I go ãsomewhere else for the same info, or.. I try frogfind.ãã A> There are reasons to stick to old operating systems, but youã A> have to be extra careful. I have a Win 7 virtual machineã A> which I run behind a filtering proxy in order to minimizeã A> vuln impacts, for example.ããMost of time I stick to the sites that I already know. I rarely ãneed to seek new sites.ãã A> gopher://gopher.richardfalken.com/1/richardfalkenããYour domain is still timing out from here.ããã--- OpenXP 5.0.49ã * Origin: Ogg's Dovenet Point (723:320/1.9)ã þ Synchronet þ CAPCITY2 * capcity2.synchro.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/Rlogin/HTTPã

Re: Windows update.ã By: Ogg to Arelor on Fri Apr 16 2021 09:11 amãã > Your domain is still timing out from here.ããThat is because the server is hardware-dead and I am still waiting forãreplacement parts.ãã--ãgopher://gopher.richardfalken.com/1/richardfalkenãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FLã

Re: Re: Windows update.ã By: poindexter FORTRAN to MRO on Tue Apr 13 2021 06:28 amãã > -=> MRO wrote to Melkor <=-ã >ã > MR> it would be good if you could use a usb flashdrive to install windows.ã > MR> maybe some day we can do that?ã >ã > I do it all the time. Microsoft had a media creation site where you canã > download an image for CD or USB. License sold separately.ã >ã >ããi was being sarcasticã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Re: Re: Windows update.ã By: lynx769 to Ogg on Wed Apr 14 2021 01:53 pmãã > Og> Can't you rollback to Win7? You'll probably get much betterã > Og> performance. 1.5GB free wouldn't even bode well under Win7.ã >ã > Even if you could, that would be a bad idea. Windows 7 is no longerã > receiving security updates unless you've purchased Extended Security Updatesã > from Microsoft.ã >ããi have 3 win7 computers and they are getting updates and they fuck up every once in a while and i have to figure out whats wrong with the update.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Re: Re: Windows update.ã By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Thu Apr 15 2021 09:15 amãã > I paid $1500 for my for first "large" hard disk in the early '90s:ã > a 330MB 5.25" full-height Siemens ST506 drive. That was a massive upgradeã > over my collection of 20-80MB drives at the time and helped to makeã > Vertrauen a popular BBS for image upload/download around that time.ããi'm sure it was literally large and weighed quite a bit too.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Nightfox wrote to Digital Man <=-ãã Ni> :) My first PC was a hand-me-down PC with a 10MB full-height hardã Ni> drive. For a little while, I used Stacker (and later, MS-DOS'sã Ni> DoubleSpace) to try to get a little extra space out of it.ããMy co-sysop at the time worked at Addstor, makers of Superstor - another ãdisk compression client. They had a business relationship with Digital ãResearch, so he was able to get copies of DR-DOS with Superstor.ããThen, Microsoft made Windows not run on DR-DOS, and it sort of faded away.ããThose were fun times, though - DR-DOS with all of its add-ons, Geoworks, ãLANTastic and OS/2 were my home network back then.ããã... Which parts can be grouped?ã--- MultiMail/DOS v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ realitycheckBBS -- http://realitycheckBBS.orgã

Re: Re: Windows update.ã By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Sat Apr 17 2021 09:35 amãã PF> My co-sysop at the time worked at Addstor, makers of Superstor - another ã PF> disk compression client. They had a business relationship with Digital ã PF> Research, so he was able to get copies of DR-DOS with Superstor.ãã PF> Then, Microsoft made Windows not run on DR-DOS, and it sort of faded away.ãã PF> Those were fun times, though - DR-DOS with all of its add-ons, Geoworks, ã PF> LANTastic and OS/2 were my home network back then.ããYeah, those were fun times. I didn't have much chance to mess with DR-DOS at the time and didn't know much about it. I thought it was pretty cool when MS-DOS 5 came out and had its new features, such as the ability to configure a boot menu in CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT with different configuration options for different scenarios. I think I read that was originally a feature in DR-DOS?ããI never really had a chance to play with Geoworks either.ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã

Re: Re: Windows update.ã By: MRO to Digital Man on Sat Apr 17 2021 08:30 amãã > Re: Re: Windows update.ã > By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Thu Apr 15 2021 09:15 amã >ã > > I paid $1500 for my for first "large" hard disk in the early '90s:ã > > a 330MB 5.25" full-height Siemens ST506 drive. That was a massive upgradeã > > over my collection of 20-80MB drives at the time and helped to makeã > > Vertrauen a popular BBS for image upload/download around that time.ã >ã > i'm sure it was literally large and weighed quite a bit too.ããYup. Full-height 5.25" drives are beasts. I had 60MB and 80MB full-heights before the 330MB drive, but the 330MB with its more platters was definitely heavier than those. I was so proud/happy with that purchase for the BBS. It was probably 1989 now I think I really think about it. <shrug>ã-- ã digital manããSynchronet "Real Fact" #108:ãWeedpuller "Falling Star" http://youtu.be/J0ijOUT7KIwãNorco, CA WX: 72.2øF, 47.0% humidity, 2 mph NW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Hello MRO!ãã** On Saturday 17.04.21 - 08:29, MRO wrote to lynx769:ãã >> Even if you could, that would be a bad idea. Windows 7 is no longerã >> receiving security updates unless you've purchased Extended Securityã >> Updates from Microsoft.ãã M> i have 3 win7 computers and they are getting updates andã M> they fuck up every once in a while and i have to figure outã M> whats wrong with the update. -+-ããIt' happening on my newest laptop, a T540p Thinkpad:ããKB4535102 failed 2020-01 Security and Qual Rollup for .NETãKB4524752 failed 2019-10 Update for Win7 x64ãKB4516065 failed 2019-09 Monthly Qual RollupãããI suppose these things can be downloaded individually outside ãthe WUA system, and installed manually?ããã--- OpenXP 5.0.49ã * Origin: Ogg's Dovenet Point (723:320/1.9)ã þ Synchronet þ CAPCITY2 * capcity2.synchro.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/Rlogin/HTTPã

Re: Windows update.ã By: Ogg to MRO on Sat Apr 17 2021 05:45 pmãã >ã > I suppose these things can be downloaded individually outsideã > the WUA system, and installed manually?ããyeah you can do that.ãthere's a few ways to deal with it.ããi posted before how to kill the service, delete the cache and then you try to update again. sometimes that works. sometimes MS fixes the update process.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Re: Re: Windows update.ã By: lynx769 to Ogg on Wed Apr 14 2021 01:53 pmãã >ã > Even if you could, that would be a bad idea. Windows 7 is no longerã > receiving security updates unless you've purchased Extended Security Updatesã > from Microsoft.ã >ã > Lachlanãããdon't believe everything you readãhttps://i.imgur.com/8NJ7iiJ.pngã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã