This Privacy Ruling Against Facebook and Instagram Could Spell the End ofã Og> Targeted AdsããMan, this is actually something I'm not a huge fan of. Sure, targeted ads and feeling as though you're being spied on is lame. Totally. I get it. But facebook is an opt-in platform. It's not a public utility like a library, it's a business. I don't see how any government can force a business to give away access to a commercial platform for free.ããSo what's any company that relies on ad revenue to give away services supposed to do? Charge for accounts? I guess?ãã--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)ã * Origin: m O N T E R E Y b B S . c O Mã

Re: Re: ..the End of Targetedã By: esc to Ogg on Mon Feb 20 2023 02:57 pmãã > Og> This Privacy Ruling Against Facebook and Instagram Could Spell the Endã > Og> of Targeted Adsã >ã > Man, this is actually something I'm not a huge fan of. Sure, targeted adsã > and feeling as though you're being spied on is lame. Totally. I get it. Butã > facebook is an opt-in platform. It's not a public utility like a library,ã > it's a business. I don't see how any government can force a business to giveã > away access to a commercial platform for free.ã >ã > So what's any company that relies on ad revenue to give away servicesã > supposed to do? Charge for accounts? I guess?ãããi would prefer they not target people and follow us around everywhere. if ending targetted ads does that, that would be nice.ããmaybe they can do anonymous tracking and show us ads that way.ãlike they don't know our name or any important info. just city, state and interests.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

i would prefer they not target people and follow us around everywhere. ã MR> if ending targetted ads does that, that would be nice.ããEh, it's an opt-in service. I'm not all about having the government regulate online services that we access for free knowing full well they do targeted ads. :/ãã--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)ã * Origin: m O N T E R E Y b B S . c O Mã

Re: Re: ..the End of Targetedã By: esc to Ogg on Mon Feb 20 2023 02:57 pmãã > So what's any company that relies on ad revenue to give away services supposed to do? ChargeããI have heard Facebook was rolling a paid account system. I guess they were anticipating that.ããPeople seems to be very happy when some new regulation screws me over, so while I don't agreeã(in principle) with these sort of regulations, I am ready to go out the street with a whiskeyãbottle and celebrate.ãã--ãgopher://gopher.richardfalken.com/1/richardfalkenãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FLã

Re: Re: ..the End of Targetedã By: esc to MRO on Mon Feb 20 2023 11:27 pmãã > MR> i would prefer they not target people and follow us around everywhere.ã > MR> if ending targetted ads does that, that would be nice.ã > ã > Eh, it's an opt-in service. I'm not all about having the government regulate online servicesã > ã > --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)ã > * Origin: m O N T E R E Y b B S . c O MããThe left 2020: "It is ok for Amazon and Google and Apple to collude and destroy Parler. It isãthe market taking care of itself."ããThe left 2023: "It is not ok for governments to interfere with legic private business such asãFacebook and destroy their revenew model".ããThis is not the left I remember. Leftists destroyed the left.ãã--ãgopher://gopher.richardfalken.com/1/richardfalkenãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FLã

Re: Re: ..the End of Targetedã By: Arelor to esc on Tue Feb 21 2023 11:39 amããAr> I have heard Facebook was rolling a paid account system. I guess they wereãAr> anticipating that.ããInterestingly, Twitter turned off SMS MFA on my account, as it's only available to TWITTER BLUE subscribers. TOTP through Google Auth, which is better, is *free*. Odd.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ .: realitycheckbbs.org :: scientia potentia est :.ã

Re: Re: ..the End of Targetedã By: Arelor to esc on Tue Feb 21 2023 11:39 amãã > > So what's any company that relies on ad revenue to give away servicesã > > supposed to do? Chargeã >ã > I have heard Facebook was rolling a paid account system. I guess they wereã > anticipating that.ããthey would never do that.ããonly if it was for business and i dont think that worked out either.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Re: Re: ..the End of Targetedã By: Arelor to esc on Tue Feb 21 2023 11:46 amãã >ã > The left 2023: "It is not ok for governments to interfere with legic privateã > business such as Facebook and destroy their revenew model".ã >ã > This is not the left I remember. Leftists destroyed the left.ã >ããoh you busted him here!ãã > > Eh, it's an opt-in service. I'm not all about having the governmentã > > regulate online servicesã >ããbut if it was spreading disinformation about covid you wanted action taken, right?ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

I have heard Facebook was rolling a paid account system. I guess theyã Ar> were anticipating that.ããYeah, saw that. I don't think it would supplant the ads revenue, though. Guess we'll see :/ãã Ar> People seems to be very happy when some new regulation screws me over,ã Ar> so while I don't agreeã Ar> (in principle) with these sort of regulations, I am ready to go out theã Ar> street with a whiskeyã Ar> bottle and celebrate.ããInteresting perspectiveãã--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)ã * Origin: m O N T E R E Y b B S . c O Mã

The left 2020: "It is ok for Amazon and Google and Apple to collude andã Ar> destroy Parler. It isã Ar> the market taking care of itself."ããNobody owes a platform to anyone else. Someone wants to make a right wing cesspool? Good luck getting some company to host it.ããYes, this is the market taking care of itself.ãã Ar> The left 2023: "It is not ok for governments to interfere with legicã Ar> private business such asã Ar> Facebook and destroy their revenew model".ããCorrect. For an opt-in service that they host themselves.ããI don't see what's controversial here. Sounds like some hurt feelings going on?ãã--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)ã * Origin: m O N T E R E Y b B S . c O Mã

but if it was spreading disinformation about covid you wanted actionã MR> taken, right?ããFacebook stopped the spread of covid disinformation themselves. The government did not compel this.ããJust like nobody was willing to host Parler. Free market, baby!ãã--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)ã * Origin: m O N T E R E Y b B S . c O Mã

Re: Re: ..the End of Targetedã By: esc to Arelor on Tue Feb 21 2023 07:02 pmãã > Ar> The left 2020: "It is ok for Amazon and Google and Apple to collude andã > Ar> destroy Parler. It isã > Ar> the market taking care of itself."ã >ã > Nobody owes a platform to anyone else. Someone wants to make a right wingã > cesspool? Good luck getting some company to host it.ããthey did that with truth social and it's actually pretty nice.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Re: Re: ..the End of Targetedã By: esc to MRO on Tue Feb 21 2023 07:04 pmãã > MR> but if it was spreading disinformation about covid you wanted actionã > MR> taken, right?ã >ã > Facebook stopped the spread of covid disinformation themselves. Theã > government did not compel this.ã >ããi thought the govt paid them all the do it. didn't they unearth that.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Facebook stopped the spread of covid disinformation themselves. Theã MR> > government did not compel this.ã MR> >ã MR> ã MR> i thought the govt paid them all the do it. didn't they unearth that.ããNopeãã--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)ã * Origin: m O N T E R E Y b B S . c O Mã

Re: Re: ..the End of Targetedã By: MRO to Arelor on Tue Feb 21 2023 06:27 pmãã > > I have heard Facebook was rolling a paid account system. I guess theyã > > were anticipating that.ã >ã > they would never do that.ããWell, they're testing it right now for $12/month in Australia & New Zealand?ããhttps://about.fb.com/news/2023/02/testing-meta-verified-to-help-creators/ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ 0xDECAFBAD - bbs.decafbad.comã

Quoting Arelor to Esc <=-ãã Ar> Re: Re: ..the End of Targetedã Ar> By: esc to MRO on Mon Feb 20 2023 11:27 pmã ã Ar> The left 2020: "It is ok for Amazon and Google and Apple to colludeã Ar> and destroy Parler. It is the market taking care of itself."ãã Ar> The left 2023: "It is not ok for governments to interfere with legicã Ar> private business such as Facebook and destroy their revenew model".ãã Ar> This is not the left I remember. Leftists destroyed the left.ããYou leftist you...ããJust kidding!ããCougarãã... Danger, Arelor! Off-topic messages! Danger!ãã___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ CJ's Place, Orange City, FL - cjsplace.thruhere.netã

Quoting Mro to Arelor <=-ãã Mr> Re: Re: ..the End of Targetedã Mr> By: Arelor to esc on Tue Feb 21 2023 11:39 amã ã > > So what's any company that relies on ad revenue to give away servicesã > > supposed to do? Chargeã >ã > I have heard Facebook was rolling a paid account system. I guess they wereã > anticipating that.ãã Mr> they would never do that.ãã Mr> only if it was for business and i dont think that worked out either.ããGlad this doesn't affect me. I don't have a facebook, twitter, orãany other mentioned accounts. When it starts to affect theãadvertising on BBS systems, then there'll be trouble (G).ããCougarããã... Beware of programmers carrying screwdrivers!ãã___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ CJ's Place, Orange City, FL - cjsplace.thruhere.netã

Quoting Esc to Arelor <=-ãã Ar> The left 2020: "It is ok for Amazon and Google and Apple to collude andã Ar> destroy Parler. It isã Ar> the market taking care of itself."ãã Es> Nobody owes a platform to anyone else. Someone wants to make a rightã Es> wing cesspool? Good luck getting some company to host it. ã ãTell us what you really think of conservatives...ãã Ar> The left 2023: "It is not ok for governments to interfere with legicã Ar> private business such asã Ar> Facebook and destroy their revenew model".ãã Es> Correct. For an opt-in service that they host themselves.ãã Es> I don't see what's controversial here. Sounds like some hurt feelingsã Es> going on? ããYours? Or Arelors...ããã___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ CJ's Place, Orange City, FL - cjsplace.thruhere.netã

Re: Re: ..the End of Targetedã By: MRO to Arelor on Tue Feb 21 2023 06:27 pmãã >> I have heard Facebook was rolling a paid account system. I guess theyã >> were anticipating that.ãã MR> they would never do that.ãã MR> only if it was for business and i dont think that worked out either.ããI heard something in the news a couple days ago that Facebook was considering a paid tier because their ad revenue had been dropping and they want a more reliable source of revenue.ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã

Re: Re: ..the End of Targetedã By: MRO to Arelor on Tue Feb 21 2023 06:27 pmãã >> I have heard Facebook was rolling a paid account system. I guess theyã >> were anticipating that.ãã MR> they would never do that.ãã MR> only if it was for business and i dont think that worked out either.ãã They are. it's similar to Twitter's system. you get verified, a blue checkmark, and a few extra features along with a potential "boost" to your posts.ããI pay for Twitter Blue, but only because it gives me some features I think are worth paying for (I don't give a flying fuck about the blue checkmark, I'd rather not have it, but it won't actually let me turn it off). ããThat said, it seems like Facebook's paid account system is going to lean heavily into the "verified" realm, with few extra features. It's more geared towards creators who want to build some kind of e-following or whatever.ããDaiTenguãã...Advertising is legalized lying.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ War Ensemble BBS - The sport is war, total war - warensemble.comã

Re: Re: ..the End of Targetedã By: MRO to Arelor on Tue Feb 21 2023 06:27 pmãã > > > So what's any company that relies on ad revenue to give away servicesã > > > supposed to do? Chargeã > >ã > > I have heard Facebook was rolling a paid account system. I guess they werã > > anticipating that.ã > ã > they would never do that.ã > ã > only if it was for business and i dont think that worked out either.ããYes, they weren t going to make it universal. As far as I have heard, it wasãsome business plan, a bit like Twitter s verified accounts.ãã--ãgopher://gopher.richardfalken.com/1/richardfalkenãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FLã

Re: Re: ..the End of Targetedã By: poindexter FORTRAN to Arelor on Tue Feb 21 2023 12:16 pmãã > Re: Re: ..the End of Targetedã > By: Arelor to esc on Tue Feb 21 2023 11:39 amã > ã > Ar> I have heard Facebook was rolling a paid account system. I guess they weã > Ar> anticipating that.ã > ã > Interestingly, Twitter turned off SMS MFA on my account, as it's only availaã > ---ã > þ Synchronet þ .: realitycheckbbs.org :: scientia potentia est :.ããTOTP is theoretically safer than SMS verification, but for practical purposes,ãit is more of a headache. I think the average granny is more likely to set SMSãauth than TOPT, and is she sets TOTP, she is more likely to lose her acessãtokens and suffer.ããWHat is better nowadays is not what is "better". It is what is easier, and theyãplay with that.ãã--ãgopher://gopher.richardfalken.com/1/richardfalkenãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FLã

Re: Re: ..the End of Targetedã By: esc to Arelor on Tue Feb 21 2023 07:00 pmãã > Ar> People seems to be very happy when some new regulation screws me over,ã > Ar> so while I don't agreeã > Ar> (in principle) with these sort of regulations, I am ready to go out theã > Ar> street with a whiskeyã > Ar> bottle and celebrate.ã > ã > Interesting perspectiveã > ããI certainly got burned from being in politics. It is all theatre.ããMaybe your political party has protecting group A from group B (which isãreally, really messing up with group A). Group A is attacked one day by groupãB, you release an statement in support of A, condemn the attack, phone theãrepresentatives of group A to show them support...ãã... and group A tells you to eat shit and die because you are a fascistãcommunist (what usually happens is some other political party has bought them)ããWhat happens the next time they attack A is you watch it in the news whileãhaving some Quarter Horse bourbon and thinking assholes who hate you don tãdeserve your help.ãã--ãgopher://gopher.richardfalken.com/1/richardfalkenãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FLã

Re: Re: ..the End of Targetedã By: esc to Arelor on Tue Feb 21 2023 07:02 pmãã > Ar> The left 2020: "It is ok for Amazon and Google and Apple to collude andã > Ar> destroy Parler. It isã > Ar> the market taking care of itself."ã > ã > Nobody owes a platform to anyone else. Someone wants to make a right wing ceã > ã > Yes, this is the market taking care of itself.ã > ã > Ar> The left 2023: "It is not ok for governments to interfere with legicã > Ar> private business such asã > Ar> Facebook and destroy their revenew model".ã > ã > Correct. For an opt-in service that they host themselves.ã > ã > I don't see what's controversial here. Sounds like some hurt feelings going ã > ã > --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)ã > * Origin: m O N T E R E Y b B S . c O MããHurt feelings? For what?ããThe left used to be anti-corporativist and I kind of miss those times. Rightãnow it looks like they are ready to be pro-corporativists as long as theãparticular evil corporation in question is cool enough. ãã--ãgopher://gopher.richardfalken.com/1/richardfalkenãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FLã

Re: Re: ..the End of Targetedã By: esc to MRO on Tue Feb 21 2023 07:04 pmãã > MR> but if it was spreading disinformation about covid you wanted actionã > MR> taken, right?ã > ã > Facebook stopped the spread of covid disinformation themselves. The governmeã > ã > Just like nobody was willing to host Parler. Free market, baby!ã > ã > --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)ã > * Origin: m O N T E R E Y b B S . c O MããWell, Facebook being blocked from delivering targetted ads is our Governmentsãprotecting us from the abuse of an evil corporation. That used to be a GoodãThing for the Das Kapital brigade.ããI have already ran into some people who thinks Government should preventãabusive corporative behavior that is not very different from Facebook s here,ãbut somehow Facebook gets a free pass? They cannot have it both ways. Ifãgovernments should interfere to prevent abusive prices for phone subscriptionsã(which are opt-in) then you cannot defend Facebook is a legit company beingãvictimized by the evil governments of doom.ããI mean, the real school lefties had principles. The Sex Pistols dude gotãbankrupt tryig to prevent Disney from using his stuff because he didn t wantãSex Pistols to belong to (and I quote) Mickey Fucking Mouse.ããã--ãgopher://gopher.richardfalken.com/1/richardfalkenãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FLã

Facebook stopped the spread of covid disinformation themselves. Theã> > government did not compel this.ã> >ãã> i thought the govt paid them all the do it. didn't they unearth that.ããThe government colluded with Twitter, that is what was unearthed. Aãprofessor who is a "COVID believer" out at Stanford (?) posted a pieceãabout his concern regarding children being out of school so long. He gotãshadow-banned as a "COVID disinformer." That came out.ããSo did Twitter's bias regarding which government source informationãregarding misinformation came from. They wanted the FBI to have a place atãtheir table, but they (and the FBI) didn't want to include certain otherãdepartments, depending on who was running them and might benefit fromãgetting credit for unearthing foreign-based disinformation. If they didn'tãalign with them politically, they didn't want them included even if theirãinformation (about misinformation) was correct.ããI have seen nothing that indicated the government paid them with money, butãthey did reward them with information.ããã * SLMR 2.1a * Improve your memory, forget about workãã---ã þ Synchronet þ CAPCITY2 * capcity2.synchro.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/Rlogin/HTTPã

Re: Re: ..the End of Targetedã By: esc to MRO on Tue Feb 21 2023 11:39 pmãã > MR> > Facebook stopped the spread of covid disinformation themselves. Theã > MR> > government did not compel this.ã >ã >ã > MR> i thought the govt paid them all the do it. didn't they unearth that.ã >ã > Nopeããthe govt paid over a billion dollars for boosting vaccine 'confidence' and social media got a slice of the pie.ããso they had a great interest to follow a specific narrative.ããAnd facebook is crooked as fuck. and so are their 'fact checkers' whoever those people are. So was twitter.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Re: Re: ..the End of Targetedã By: Lmorchard to MRO on Wed Feb 22 2023 03:36 amãã > Re: Re: ..the End of Targetedã > By: MRO to Arelor on Tue Feb 21 2023 06:27 pmã >ã > > > I have heard Facebook was rolling a paid account system. I guess theyã > > > were anticipating that.ã >ã > > they would never do that.ã >ã > Well, they're testing it right now for $12/month in Australia & New Zealand?ã >ã > https://about.fb.com/news/2023/02/testing-meta-verified-to-help-creators/ããthat's so hillarious and stupid.ãyou know their stock price dropped whenever there were reports of how many dupe accounts and bots there were. this is totally self serving and evil.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Re: Re: ..the End of Targetedã By: Nightfox to MRO on Wed Feb 22 2023 09:13 amãã > >> were anticipating that.ã >ã > MR> they would never do that.ã >ã > MR> only if it was for business and i dont think that worked out either.ã >ã > I heard something in the news a couple days ago that Facebook wasã > considering a paid tier because their ad revenue had been dropping and theyãããYeah, i guess they will try anything. the chain letters about facebook charging are now right.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Re: Re: ..the End of Targetedã By: DaiTengu to MRO on Wed Feb 22 2023 10:20 amãã > They are. it's similar to Twitter's system. you get verified, a blueã > checkmark, and a few extra features along with a potential "boost" to yourã > posts.ã >ã > I pay for Twitter Blue, but only because it gives me some features I thinkã > are worth paying for (I don't give a flying fuck about the blue checkmark,ã > I'd rather not have it, but it won't actually let me turn it off).ã >ã > That said, it seems like Facebook's paid account system is going to leanã > heavily into the "verified" realm, with few extra features. It's more gearedã > towards creators who want to build some kind of e-following or whatever.ã >ã > DaiTenguããthat's not really why they are doing it , though. fake accounts costs fb money. a lot of money.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Re: Re: ..the End of Targetedã By: Arelor to MRO on Wed Feb 22 2023 02:07 pmãã >ã > > only if it was for business and i dont think that worked out either.ã >ã > Yes, they weren t going to make it universal. As far as I have heard, it wasã > some business plan, a bit like Twitter s verified accounts.ã >ããthey were going to make something like microsoft teams combined with facebookãi dont know which came first teams or this idea. but a fb at work sucks dick.ãyou can not trust fb, they've shown they are evil.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Re: Re: ..the End of Targetedã By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Wed Feb 22 2023 04:56 pmãã > > > Facebook stopped the spread of covid disinformation themselves. Theã > > > government did not compel this.ã >ã >ã > > i thought the govt paid them all the do it. didn't they unearth that.ã >ã > The government colluded with Twitter, that is what was unearthed. Aã > professor who is a "COVID believer" out at Stanford (?) posted a pieceã > about his concern regarding children being out of school so long. He gotããi'm pretty sure they had a FUND they put together and they used social media to spread that vaccine bullshit. and when you're giving a company millions of dollars in the high range, they sure as fuck are going to protect your intrests.ããthey probably put together those 'fact checkers' and extra measures when the first check went through.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Tell us what you really think of conservatives...ããI mean, he mentioned Parler, which was a pretty fringe right thing...ãã Co> Es> I don't see what's controversial here. Sounds like some hurt feelingsã Co> Es> going on? ã Co> ã Co> Yours? Or Arelors...ããI don't have feelings, I'm a sociopath, so we're good ;)ãã--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)ã * Origin: m O N T E R E Y b B S . c O Mã

Maybe your political party has protecting group A from group B (which isã Ar> really, really messing up with group A). Group A is attacked one day byã Ar> group B, you release an statement in support of A, condemn the attack,ã Ar> phone the representatives of group A to show them support...ã Ar> ã Ar> ... and group A tells you to eat shit and die because you are a fascistã Ar> communist (what usually happens is some other political party has boughtã Ar> them)ããYou're in Spain, I think? Correct me if I'm wrong. But man if those two paragraphs don't sum up the way I feel about politics in the US these days. ugh...ãã--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)ã * Origin: m O N T E R E Y b B S . c O Mã

The left used to be anti-corporativist and I kind of miss those times.ã Ar> Right now it looks like they are ready to be pro-corporativists as longã Ar> as the particular evil corporation in question is cool enough. ããThere are some anti-corporate punks still hanging around on the left! :PããBut yeah I'm the only one giving my employer honest feedback, so you're probably right.ãã--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)ã * Origin: m O N T E R E Y b B S . c O Mã

Well, Facebook being blocked from delivering targetted ads is ourã Ar> Governments protecting us from the abuse of an evil corporation. Thatã Ar> used to be a Good Thing for the Das Kapital brigade.ããI'm very leery of the government deciding that protecting people like this eventually turns into the government regulating what people can talk about. I'd much rather a company try to make what they believe to be the right moral/ethical/business decision where we can debate it in the court of public opinion, but as soon as a government gets involved, I get a bit dismayed.ãã Ar> I have already ran into some people who thinks Government should preventã Ar> abusive corporative behavior that is not very different from Facebook sã Ar> here, but somehow Facebook gets a free pass? They cannot have it bothã Ar> ways. If governments should interfere to prevent abusive prices forã Ar> phone subscriptions (which are opt-in) then you cannot defend Facebookã Ar> is a legit company being victimized by the evil governments of doom.ããInteresting perspective, but a phone is basically a critical need in this day and age, similar to medicine, food, etc., much of which the government has a say in regulating. I reject the notion that Facebook is a vital utility like having a phone, but agree to disagree I suppose.ãã Ar> I mean, the real school lefties had principles. The Sex Pistols dude gotã Ar> bankrupt tryig to prevent Disney from using his stuff because he didn tã Ar> want Sex Pistols to belong to (and I quote) Mickey Fucking Mouse.ããI mean...he's like, one person, who is pretty fringe on the left. Can't expect everyone with liberal values to go to that extreme.ãã--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)ã * Origin: m O N T E R E Y b B S . c O Mã

the govt paid over a billion dollars for boosting vaccine 'confidence'ã MR> and social media got a slice of the pie.ããWhere did you dig up this chestnut?ãã MR> so they had a great interest to follow a specific narrative.ããYeah, like, persisting the human race, since ~2 billion people login to Facebook every day. It's called taking some moral responsibility. Plus, it was probably a business decision; key advertisers might abandon your platform if it's used to spread vaccine misinformation.ãã MR> And facebook is crooked as fuck. and so are their 'fact checkers'ã MR> whoever those people are. So was twitter.ããWhat do you think these are, evil little people conspiring or something? That's a rather paranoid worldview. I'm glad I don't share it.ããIf you disagree with fact checkers, or think they're up to no good, maybe entertain the idea that you don't have your facts straight.ãã--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)ã * Origin: m O N T E R E Y b B S . c O Mã

Re: Re: ..the End of Targetedã By: esc to Arelor on Wed Feb 22 2023 06:56 pmãã > Ar> Well, Facebook being blocked from delivering targetted ads is ourã > Ar> Governments protecting us from the abuse of an evil corporation. Thatã > Ar> used to be a Good Thing for the Das Kapital brigade.ã >ã > I'm very leery of the government deciding that protecting people like thisã > eventually turns into the government regulating what people can talk about.ã > I'd much rather a company try to make what they believe to be the rightã > moral/ethical/business decision where we can debate it in the court ofã > public opinion, but as soon as a government gets involved, I get a bitã > dismayed.ã >ããpeople DO need protection from facebook though. or facebook should just be transparent about what it does. yes, they arent forcing you to use it, but it's mainstream and they have been pulling bullshit evil shit for years.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Re: Re: ..the End of Targetedã By: esc to MRO on Wed Feb 22 2023 07:06 pmãã > MR> the govt paid over a billion dollars for boosting vaccine 'confidence'ã > MR> and social media got a slice of the pie.ã >ã > Where did you dig up this chestnut?ããi'm pretty sure it's been out there for quite some time.ãã > MR> so they had a great interest to follow a specific narrative.ã >ã > Yeah, like, persisting the human race, since ~2 billion people login toã > Facebook every day. It's called taking some moral responsibility. Plus, itã > was probably a business decision; key advertisers might abandon yourããoh come on now. facebook being moral? that's bullshit.ãthey did all this stuff because they cared?ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

people DO need protection from facebook though. or facebook should justã MR> be transparent about what it does. yes, they arent forcing you to useã MR> it, but it's mainstream and they have been pulling bullshit evil shitã MR> for years. ---ããCan't say I agree but respect your opinion nonetheless.ãã--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)ã * Origin: m O N T E R E Y b B S . c O Mã

Where did you dig up this chestnut?ã MR> ã MR> i'm pretty sure it's been out there for quite some time.ããCare to find some proof? All I found was salacious articles, none of which appear to come from any trusted news source.ãã MR> oh come on now. facebook being moral? that's bullshit.ã MR> they did all this stuff because they cared?ããYes, they did. Who do you think works there? The people Facebook hires are those smart college kids that want to "make the world a better place". Their entire pitch and mission with recruiting is connecting people. There aren't these evil boogeymen people writing lines of code like you seem to think.ãã--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)ã * Origin: m O N T E R E Y b B S . c O Mã

Re: Re: ..the End of Targetedã By: esc to Arelor on Wed Feb 22 2023 06:56 pmãã > Ar> abusive corporative behavior that is not very different from Facebook sã > Ar> here, but somehow Facebook gets a free pass? They cannot have it bothã > Ar> ways. If governments should interfere to prevent abusive prices forã > Ar> phone subscriptions (which are opt-in) then you cannot defend Facebookã > Ar> is a legit company being victimized by the evil governments of doom.ã > ã > Interesting perspective, but a phone is basically a critical need in this daã > ee to disagree I suppose.ã > ããPhone isn't critical for a whole lot of people, and online presence is criticalãfor a number of job positions.ããIf I were a positive rights proponent, it would be inconsistent for me toãdefend I am entitled to a phone line because I use it to talk to friends but Iãam not entitled to online pressence (which I use to make a living).ããIf I belonged to the Das Kapital brigade my next step would be to equate onlineãpresence to phone ussage. Keep in mind Internet access is classified as a humanãright around here. Since online presence would be a right then the government,ãaka The People, has the duty to ensure online presence providers act in theãbest interests of the common folks, and if they don't outright seize them.ããLet's be clear about this. Facebooks business model is shady as fuck. Itãconsits of offering free services to people who does not read the contract andãknows not what the hell they are signing in for. The tech people here knows butãmost people has no fucking clue. When it happens with a finantial institutionãselling finantial products to grandpas who don't know better, people screamsãbloody murder, but why would Facebook get a pass? Hell, it is so broken thatãeven free market capitalists would think twice before declaring Facebook to beãclean wheat.ããSo yeah, Facebook has the right to operate their current business model, noãmatter I dislike it -that is what freedom lovers do: recognize other people'sãright to do things we dislike- but it is so borderline evil that rightwingersãshould be wery and left-wingers should put it in their hatelist right now.ããã--ãgopher://gopher.richardfalken.com/1/richardfalkenãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FLã

Re: Re: ..the End of Targetedã By: esc to Arelor on Wed Feb 22 2023 06:56 pmãã > Ar> want Sex Pistols to belong to (and I quote) Mickey Fucking Mouse.ã > ã > I mean...he's like, one person, who is pretty fringe on the left. Can't expeã > ã > --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)ã > * Origin: m O N T E R E Y b B S . c O MããMaybe, but if you adopt an anti-corporation lifestyle and then jump to defendãcorporate interests you are not very consistent.ãã--ãgopher://gopher.richardfalken.com/1/richardfalkenãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FLã

Re: Re: ..the End of Targetedã By: esc to MRO on Wed Feb 22 2023 07:06 pmãã > If you disagree with fact checkers, or think they're up to no good, maybe enããI don't know about US so-called fact-checkers, but Spanish ones I know of hasãsome shady ties with government and corporate power. I would not think theyãare more trustworthy than your regular government or corporate sponsoredãnewsoutlet - because if you pull the string, they happen to be the same people,ãor the manager is the wife of some politician or newsmaster.ãã--ãgopher://gopher.richardfalken.com/1/richardfalkenãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FLã

Re: Re: ..the End of Targetedã By: esc to MRO on Thu Feb 23 2023 12:25 amãã > Yes, they did. Who do you think works there? The people Facebook hires are tã > writing lines of code like you seem to think.ã > ããexport BERNY_SANDERS_MODE="True"ããFacebooks biggest succeess, it seems, is to exist as a conventional corporationãwhile making everybody believe they are something else.ããFacebook is a company traded in public exchanges with an absurd price-to-bookãratio. What that means is they tricked a whole lot of people into buying sharesãof their company for a price way higher than the company is worth. Facebook isãa heavily overcapitalized company owned by capitalist powers who will be forcedãto squeeze it dry in order to see returns for their overinvestments.ããI don't care how good the employees are. The power Capital has is they can takeãgood people and abuse them and enslave them and make them work torwards theãCapital's goals instead of the worker's. Facebook is no difference at aãfundamental level. It is owned by the Capital and workers' output is taken andãused as the Capital sees fit.ããFacebook may protray itself as a worker and humanist friendly organization, butãwhen they market themselves as a Good Entity they are just acting as somebodyãwho takes a turd and wraps it in colorful papers, trying it with a nice giftãribbon. They are trying to make something awful look great by selling it as aãgreat thing, but at a fundamental level they are just a turd.ããThe saddest part is when the workers themselves get to see the colorfulãgift-wrap and the ribbon and rush to attack anybody who denounces it is just aãwell marketed turd. Indeed, Facebook's Capitalist masters have managed to getãthe enslaved class to defend their Capitalist interests. It is the slaveãdefending Blackrock and Vanguard as they squeeze them dry. It is disgusting.ããã--ãgopher://gopher.richardfalken.com/1/richardfalkenãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FLã

Arelor wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-ãã Ar> TOTP is theoretically safer than SMS verification, but for practicalã Ar> purposes, it is more of a headache. I think the average granny is moreã Ar> likely to set SMS auth than TOPT, and is she sets TOTP, she is moreã Ar> likely to lose her acess tokens and suffer.ãã Granny is NEVER going to set up TOTP. I think that's what Elon isã banking on.ããããã... Do nothing for as long as possibleã--- MultiMail/Win v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ .: realitycheckbbs.org :: scientia potentia est :.ã

Re: Re: ..the End of Targetedã By: esc to MRO on Thu Feb 23 2023 12:25 amãã > Yes, they did. Who do you think works there? The people Facebook hires areã > those smart college kids that want to "make the world a better place". Theirã > entire pitch and mission with recruiting is connecting people. There aren'tã > these evil boogeymen people writing lines of code like you seem to think.ããFWIW, I know folks who work at Facebook. That is the pitch, yes, and why most of them joined up. But most of them aren't in charge. A lot of them are *trying* to do good work there. But, the money comes from connecting people so that they stick around to generate classifying data & provide attention worth renting out to advertisers.ããNot "evil boogeymen people" so much as folks paid very well to implement the company's objectives while trying to good where they can. A lot of folks I know who've stayed there think that it's a good trade to provide a communication service for "free" rather than having it only be available to folks who can afford to pay. I see their point, but don't personally think the surveilance ends up being a good trade.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ 0xDECAFBAD - bbs.decafbad.comã

Re: Re: ..the End of Targetedã By: esc to MRO on Thu Feb 23 2023 12:23 amãã > MR> people DO need protection from facebook though. or facebook shouldã > MR> just be transparent about what it does. yes, they arent forcing you toã > MR> useã > MR> it, but it's mainstream and they have been pulling bullshit evil shitã > MR> for years. ---ã >ã > Can't say I agree but respect your opinion nonetheless.ããlook up facebook and what they've done for years. look at their lawsuits.ããthey've used user information for illegal purposes and have been convicted as such. they still spy on their users with the mobile app. have a conversation and then you see the ads for the shit you talked about popping up on facebook.ããthey've also manipulated information on covid, the covid vaccine and they've tried to manipulate the presidential election. those are all facts.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Re: Re: ..the End of Targetedã By: esc to MRO on Thu Feb 23 2023 12:25 amãã > MR> i'm pretty sure it's been out there for quite some time.ã >ã > Care to find some proof? All I found was salacious articles, none of whichã > appear to come from any trusted news source.ããhttps://www.covidmoneytracker.org/ããthey had programs for education on covid and they partnered with twitter and facebook.ãyou won't find something out right as 'here's 50million dollars to ban people that say this', and they didn't need to. once they got the money they knew what to do.ãã >ã > Yes, they did. Who do you think works there? The people Facebook hires areã > those smart college kids that want to "make the world a better place". Theirã > entire pitch and mission with recruiting is connecting people. There aren'tã > these evil boogeymen people writing lines of code like you seem to think.ããyou're just believing the hype.ãlook up how many times facebook/meta has been sued from multiple countries and what for.ããfacebook is ran by an amoral person who want's to take over everything.ãtheir workers are mostly white, mostly male. recently their technical employees have had a huge steer towards asian males, when before it was mostly white like everything else.ãã60% of fb employees are outside of the usa.ããi guess the avg age is 28. are these people hipsters who want to change the world and make it a better place? i dout it.ããif they were really cool college kids who play foosball in their breakroom and want the world to be better, don't you think they'd hire some more fucking women atleast?ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Hello Arelor!ãã** On Thursday 23.02.23 - 07:30, Arelor wrote to esc:ãã A> I don't care how good the employees are. The power Capital has is they canã A> take good people and abuse them and enslave them and make them workã A> torwards the Capital's goals instead of the worker's. Facebook is noã A> difference at a fundamental level. It is owned by the Capital and workers'ã A> output is taken and used as the Capital sees fit.ããSounds like what China is doing to its workers.ããã--- OpenXP 5.0.57ã * Origin: Ogg's Dovenet Point (723:320/1.9)ã þ Synchronet þ CAPCITY2 * capcity2.synchro.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/Rlogin/HTTPã

they've also manipulated information on covid, the covid vaccine andã MR> they've tried to manipulate the presidential election. those are allã MR> facts. ---ããFalse. Anyway I'm done arguing, it's not going to do any good, not like I'll convince you of anything even if I'm the most persuasive person alive.ãã--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)ã * Origin: m O N T E R E Y b B S . c O Mã

Re: ..the End of Targetedã By: Ogg to Arelor on Thu Feb 23 2023 07:21 pmãã > Hello Arelor!ã > ã > ** On Thursday 23.02.23 - 07:30, Arelor wrote to esc:ã > ã > A> I don't care how good the employees are. The power Capital has is they cã > A> take good people and abuse them and enslave them and make them workã > A> torwards the Capital's goals instead of the worker's. Facebook is noã > A> difference at a fundamental level. It is owned by the Capital and workerã > A> output is taken and used as the Capital sees fit.ã > ã > Sounds like what China is doing to its workers.ã > ã > ã > --- OpenXP 5.0.57ã > * Origin: Ogg's Dovenet Point (723:320/1.9)ã > þ Synchronet þ CAPCITY2 * capcity2.synchro.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/Rlogin/HTTããThat must be because China is Capitalist. If it was Communist instead, peopleãin China would be free and they would all smoke weed and live happy ever afterãin a world full of free stuff.ãã--ãgopher://gopher.richardfalken.com/1/richardfalkenãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FLã

Re: Re: ..the End of Targetedã By: esc to MRO on Thu Feb 23 2023 09:30 pmãã > MR> they've also manipulated information on covid, the covid vaccine andã > MR> they've tried to manipulate the presidential election. those are allã > MR> facts. ---ã >ã > False. Anyway I'm done arguing, it's not going to do any good, not like I'llã > convince you of anything even if I'm the most persuasive person alive.ããi'm not arguing.ããbut i'm not also going to waste a lot of time here dumping links. people often attack the links if they arent cnn or whatever.ããI'm not a liar and i've demonstrated that i have an excellent memory with things i read.ããI have no horse in this race, so why would i lie.ããIt's a fact that facebook has been taken to trial in the past and they have lost several times. It's because of how they treat and misuse their user's information.ããthey obviously have been manipulating their userbase in every aspect. they want them to follow a certain mindset and they want them to follow facebook's agenda which in the end are about generating profit.ããfacebook is an evil company. twitter was an evil company.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

i'm not arguing.ã MR> <proceeds to type out a bunch of arguments>ãã:Pãã--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)ã * Origin: m O N T E R E Y b B S . c O Mã

Re: Re: ..the End of Targetedã By: esc to MRO on Fri Feb 24 2023 06:21 pmãã > MR> i'm not arguing.ã > MR> <proceeds to type out a bunch of arguments>ã >ã > :Pããyou're just seeing it as an argument.ããanswer me this: since facebook is full of young people whoãwant to make the world such a great place, why don't they hire women?ããwhy is it mostly white males?ãthose are facts.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Re: Re: ..the End of Targeted ã By: esc to MRO on Thu Feb 23 2023 12:25 am ã ã MR>> they did all this stuff because they cared? ã es> Yes, they did. Who do you think works there? The people Facebook hires areã es> those smart college kids that want to "make the world a better place". ã es> Their entire pitch and mission with recruiting is connecting people. Thereã es> aren't these evil boogeymen people writing lines of code like you seem to ã es> think. ã ãYes smart indoctrinated college kids i'm sure.... I'm not going to say they are all like this but for some of the stuff Facebook , Twitter , Youtube and other Social Media Platforms have been doing....ãall indoctrinated but i'm sure a lot of them are.ããBrokenMindãã---ã þ Synchronetã

Re: Re: ..the End of Targetedã By: MRO to esc on Fri Feb 24 2023 10:35 pmãã MR> answer me this: since facebook is full of young people whoã MR> want to make the world such a great place, why don't they hire women?ãã MR> why is it mostly white males?ã MR> those are facts.ããI'm not too familiar with Facebook's hiring policies, but I've been working as a software developer since 2003, and the whole industry is fairly male-dominated (at least, in the US). I doubt Facebook just doesn't hire women; it just seems that there are few women in the US who decide to go into tech jobs. I did work for one very large (multi-national) tech company and they did have women developers and engineers working there - but many of them were from other countries (mainly India or China).ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã

you're just seeing it as an argument.ããAnd you continue arguing ;) I'm not going to argue. This is silly.ãã--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)ã * Origin: m O N T E R E Y b B S . c O Mã

Re: Re: ..the End of Targetedã By: Brokenmind to esc on Fri Feb 24 2023 10:13 pmãã >ã > Yes smart indoctrinated college kids i'm sure.... I'm not going to say theyã > are all like this but for some of the stuff Facebook , Twitter , Youtube andã > other Social Media Platforms have been doing....ã > all indoctrinated but i'm sure a lot of them are.ããwell are 28 year olds 'college kids'? I wasn't a kid when i was 28.ãgranted, some 28 yr olds nowadays still live with the parents which is pathetic.ããi dont think the bottom workers of these social media companies drive what it does and how it does it. it's those few at the top.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Re: Re: ..the End of Targetedã By: Nightfox to MRO on Fri Feb 24 2023 10:20 pmãã > I'm not too familiar with Facebook's hiring policies, but I've been workingã > as a software developer since 2003, and the whole industry is fairlyã > male-dominated (at least, in the US). I doubt Facebook just doesn't hireã > women; it just seems that there are few women in the US who decide to goã > into tech jobs. I did work for one very large (multi-national) tech companyã > and they did have women developers and engineers working there - but many ofã > them were from other countries (mainly India or China).ã >ããNot everyone at facebook or any social media company HAS to be a white developer.ããfb's demographics have been embarassing since the beginning.ããthe proof is in the pudding. and they have been using the same receipe for a very long time. women can do these jobs, it's sexist to think they cant. it's sexist to ignore the demographics that fb has adhered to.ããBut that's just one of my examples. fb is an evil company that wants everyone and everything's information. information is power. they also then want to take over the internet and then much more.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Re: Re: ..the End of Targetedã By: esc to MRO on Fri Feb 24 2023 11:07 pmãã > MR> you're just seeing it as an argument.ã >ã > And you continue arguing ;) I'm not going to argue. This is silly.ããi'm not trying to argue either.ãi'm just pointing out facts.ããYou're a good person and you're looking at these things using your good personãcompass. actions speak louder than words. since the beginning facebook and other social media has been evil. they don't mean well. they don't want to protect people. they want to take over. you take over by influencing how people think and what they see.ããfucking myspace tom and his cronies just wanted to show us fucking ads. i miss those days.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

MRO wrote to Nightfox <=-ãã > I'm not too familiar with Facebook's hiring policies, but I've been workingã > as a software developer since 2003, and the whole industry is fairlyã > male-dominated (at least, in the US). I doubt Facebook just doesn't hireã > women; it just seems that there are few women in the US who decide to goã > into tech jobs. I did work for one very large (multi-national) tech companyã > and they did have women developers and engineers working there - but many ofã > them were from other countries (mainly India or China).ãã MR> Not everyone at facebook or any social media company HAS to be aã MR> white developer.ãã MR> fb's demographics have been embarassing since the beginning.ãã MR> the proof is in the pudding. and they have been using the sameã MR> receipe for a very long time. women can do these jobs, it'sã MR> sexist to think they cant. it's sexist to ignore theã MR> demographics that fb has adhered to.ããMaybe you'd have better luck convincing anyone of anything, if you ãactually backed up your claims. What is the source of your "facts" that ãyou keep braying about? Where do you see these demographics? Show some ãfacts that indicate FB doesn't hire women or non-whites.ããUntil then, you're just blowing smoke, and it's not working.ãããã... He does the work of 3 Men...Moe, Larry & Curlyã--- MultiMail/Linux v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FLã

MRO wrote to esc <=-ãã > MR> you're just seeing it as an argument.ãã > And you continue arguing ;) I'm not going to argue. This is silly.ãã MR> i'm not trying to argue either.ã MR> i'm just pointing out facts.ããActually, you haven't pointed out a SINGLE "fact". You keep making ãclaims, spewing your *opinion*, harping on your conspiracy theories, ãbut..... Let's see some links or some other evidence of your "facts".ããReferences/citations talk; bullshit walks.ãããã... Ignorance can be cured. Stupid is forever.ã--- MultiMail/Linux v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FLã

Hello esc!ãã** On Monday 20.02.23 - 14:57, esc wrote to Ogg:ãã Og>> This Privacy Ruling Against Facebook and Instagram Couldã Og>> Spell the End of Targeted Adsãã e> Man, this is actually something I'm not a huge fan of.ã e> Sure, targeted ads and feeling as though you're being spiedã e> on is lame. Totally. I get it. But facebook is an opt-inã e> platform. It's not a public utility like a library, it's aã e> business. I don't see how any government can force aã e> business to give away access to a commercial platform forã e> free.ããOne of the problems is that they use your activity data even ãwhen you are not using FB. I've logged into FB for a few ãminutes, check for some messages and then leave. But when I'd ãvisit another website, "targetted ads" based on what I was ãreading on FB appear as ads on that other website! So, ãclearly, FB is distributing my user activity/content info to ãother parties.ããThe same ads would follow me when I visit other news sites, for ãexample.ããã e> So what's any company that relies on ad revenue to giveã e> away services supposed to do? Charge for accounts? I guess?ããI can live without FB, so I don't care what they do. I just ãdrop by to see if there are any new postings from friends. I ãdon't contribute content myself.ããMaybe they could provide the option to turn OFF the ãpresentation of ads if I don't want to see them, meanwhile, ãthey could still collect and analyse my activity on FB.ããBut I don't like the way the ads keep following me from site to ãsite.ãã--- OpenXP 5.0.57ã * Origin: Ogg's Dovenet Point (723:320/1.9)ã þ Synchronet þ CAPCITY2 * capcity2.synchro.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/Rlogin/HTTPã

Re: ..the End of Targetedã By: Ogg to esc on Thu Mar 02 2023 10:55 pmãã > drop by to see if there are any new postings from friends. Iã > don't contribute content myself.ã >ã > Maybe they could provide the option to turn OFF theã > presentation of ads if I don't want to see them, meanwhile,ã > they could still collect and analyse my activity on FB.ã >ã > But I don't like the way the ads keep following me from site toã > site.ããdude i was at work at a meeting for a long time and i was complaining about my legs and knees hurting. fucking amazon was showing me some full leg heat and massager thing when i opened itããhttps://i.imgur.com/GE8tuNs.pngããthe air is clear and the walls have ears!ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Ogg wrote to esc <=-ãã Og> One of the problems is that they use your activity data evenã Og> when you are not using FB. I've logged into FB for a fewã Og> minutes, check for some messages and then leave. But when I'dã Og> visit another website, "targetted ads" based on what I wasã Og> reading on FB appear as ads on that other website! So,ã Og> clearly, FB is distributing my user activity/content info toã Og> other parties.ããI've seen people talking about a containerized browser for Facebook,ãdon't know if incognito mode would work. The mere fact that people needãto create a workaround to your company's privacy overreaches is aãserious issue that reflects the fact that you are their product, notãtheir customer.ããããã... Curious ideas wait for stranger timesã--- MultiMail/Win v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ .: realitycheckbbs.org :: scientia potentia est :.ã

Re: Re: ..the End of Targetedã By: poindexter FORTRAN to Ogg on Fri Mar 03 2023 06:19 amãã > I've seen people talking about a containerized browser for Facebook,ã > don't know if incognito mode would work. The mere fact that people needã > to create a workaround to your company's privacy overreaches is aã > serious issue that reflects the fact that you are their product, notã > their customer.ããThere is the "Facebook Container" add-on for Firefox:ããhttps://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/facebook-container/ããThat does a good job of trying to isolate everything Facebook-related,ãincluding cookies and the trackers in embedded share buttons on other sites.ããThey do have kind of an insidious octopus of a service spread all around. Sounds like tinfoil hat territory to accurately describe what they do.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ 0xDECAFBAD - bbs.decafbad.comã

Lmorchard wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-ãã Lm> They do have kind of an insidious octopus of a service spread allã Lm> around. Sounds like tinfoil hat territory to accurately describe whatã Lm> they do.ããI especially bristled at them using Facebook for auth -- making it evenãharder for people to disconnect from Facebook when other sites rely onãFB to authenticate you.ããSpotify, at one point early on, required Facebook auth. They changedãafter a while to allow other 3rd party auth like Google as well as email.ããããã... Discover your formulas and abandon themã--- MultiMail/Win v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ .: realitycheckbbs.org :: scientia potentia est :.ã