The Chaos Machine: The Inside Story of How Social Media ãRewired Our Minds and Our World | HardcoverããMax FisherããLittle, Brown and CompanyããSocial Science / Sociology - Social Theory / Business & Economics / Industries - Computers & Information Technology / Psychology / Social PsychologyããPublished Sep 6, 2022ãã"We all have a vague sense that social media is bad for our ãminds, for our children, and for our democracies. But the truth ãis that its reach and impact run far deeper than we have ãunderstood.ãã"Building on years of international reporting, Max Fisher tells ãthe gripping and galling inside story of how Facebook, Twitter, ãYouTube, and other social network preyed on psychological ãfrailties to create the algorithms that drive everyday users to ãextreme opinions and, increasingly, extreme actions. As Fisher ãdemonstrates, the companies' founding tenets, combined with a ãblinkered focus on maximizing engagement, have led to a ãdestabilized world for everyone.ãã"Traversing the planet, Fisher tracks the ubiquity of hateãspeech and its spillover into violence, ills that firstãfestered in far-off locales, to their dark culmination inãAmerica during the pandemic, the 2020 election, and the CapitolãInsurrection.ãã"Through it all, the social-media giants refused to interveneãin any meaningful way, claiming to champion free speech when inãfact what they most prized were limitless profits. The result,ãas Fisher shows, is a cultural shift toward a world in whichãpeople are polarized not by beliefs based on facts, but byãmisinformation, outrage, and fear.ãã"His narrative is about more than the villains, however. Fisherãalso weaves together the stories of the heroic outsiders andãSilicon Valley defectors who raised the alarm and revealed whatãwas happening behind the closed doors of Big Tech. Bothãpanoramic and intimate, The Chaos Machine is the definitiveãaccount of the meteoric rise and troubled legacy of the techãtitans, as well as a rousing and hopeful call to arrest theãhavoc wreaked on our minds and our world before it's too late.ãã--- OpenXP 5.0.57ã * Origin: Ogg's Dovenet Point (723:320/1.9)ã þ Synchronet þ CAPCITY2 * capcity2.synchro.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/Rlogin/HTTPã

Ogg wrote to All <=-ãã Og> The Chaos Machine: The Inside Story of How Social Mediaã Og> Rewired Our Minds and Our World | Hardcoverãã Og> Max Fisherãã Og> Little, Brown and Companyãã Og> Social Science / Sociology - Social Theory / Business & Economics /ã Og> Industries - Computers & Information Technology / Psychology / Socialã Og> Psychologyãã Og> Published Sep 6, 2022ãã Og> "We all have a vague sense that social media is bad for ourã Og> minds, for our children, and for our democracies. But the truthã Og> is that its reach and impact run far deeper than we haveã Og> understood.ããThis can't be emphasized enough, but quitting social networks designedãby behaviorists to keep you hooked are addicting by design. I wonderãwhat it will take for the masses to move away from them?ãããã... Meaningless in the absence of time. What never was is never again.ã--- MultiMail/Win v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ .: realitycheckbbs.org :: scientia potentia est :.ã

Re: Re: book: the chaos machineã By: poindexter FORTRAN to Ogg on Mon Mar 06 2023 06:53 amãã > Og> is that its reach and impact run far deeper than we haveã > Og> understood.ã >ã > This can't be emphasized enough, but quitting social networks designedã > by behaviorists to keep you hooked are addicting by design. I wonderã > what it will take for the masses to move away from them?ã >ããwomen are attention whores and people are narcasists.ãthey will only move to the next one.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Re: Re: book: the chaos machiã By: poindexter FORTRAN to Ogg on Mon Mar 06 2023 06:53 amãã > Subject: Re: book: the chaos machineã > @MSGID: <64062635.5230.dove.dove-int@realitycheckbbs.org>ã > @REPLY: <6404F99E.5389.dove-int@capitolcityonline.net>ã > @TZ: 41e0ã > -=> Ogg wrote to All <=-ã > ã > Og> The Chaos Machine: The Inside Story of How Social Mediaã > Og> Rewired Our Minds and Our World | Hardcoverã > ã > Og> Max Fisherã > ã > Og> Little, Brown and Companyã > ã > Og> Social Science / Sociology - Social Theory / Business & Economics /ã > Og> Industries - Computers & Information Technology / Psychology / Socialã > Og> Psychologyã > ã > Og> Published Sep 6, 2022ã > ã > Og> "We all have a vague sense that social media is bad for ourã > Og> minds, for our children, and for our democracies. But the truthã > Og> is that its reach and impact run far deeper than we haveã > Og> understood.ã > ã > This can't be emphasized enough, but quitting social networks designedã > by behaviorists to keep you hooked are addicting by design. I wonderã > what it will take for the masses to move away from them?ã > ã > ã > ã > ... Meaningless in the absence of time. What never was is never again.ããI've known some social media folk who used to be heavy Facebook users ditchãit in favor of other platforms during the last election. I have no idea ifãthey are happy with whatever platform they moved to. I haven't createdãaccounts on other sites to track their activity.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ The Cave BBS - Since 1992 - cavebbs.homeip.netã

Re: Re: book: the chaos machiã By: Moondog to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Mar 07 2023 07:27 amãã Mo> I've known some social media folk who used to be heavy Facebook usersã Mo> ditch it in favor of other platforms during the last election. I have noã Mo> idea if they are happy with whatever platform they moved to. I haven'tã Mo> created accounts on other sites to track their activity.ããIt seems to me there isn't really a good popular alternative to Facebook. Instagram only allows you to post photos, and Twitter only allows you to post short text posts, etc.. There are other social media sites similar to Facebook but they aren't really popular anymore (MySpace, Orkut, etc.).ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã

Re: Re: book: the chaos machiã By: Nightfox to Moondog on Tue Mar 07 2023 09:50 amãã > Re: Re: book: the chaos machiã > By: Moondog to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Mar 07 2023 07:27 amã >ã > Mo> I've known some social media folk who used to be heavy Facebook usersã > Mo> ditch it in favor of other platforms during the last election. I haveã > Mo> no idea if they are happy with whatever platform they moved to. Iã > Mo> haven't created accounts on other sites to track their activity.ã >ã > It seems to me there isn't really a good popular alternative to Facebook.ããReddit maybe?ãã > Instagram only allows you to post photos,ããReplies to posts can be text and discussion do sometimes happen in that form.ãã > and Twitter only allows you toã > post short text posts, etc.. There are other social media sites similar toã > Facebook but they aren't really popular anymore (MySpace, Orkut, etc.).ããMastadon. I intend to start using Mastadon more for my "modern" social media "needs" and look into Synchronet integration.ã-- ã digital man (rob)ããSynchronet "Real Fact" #122:ãSynchronet v2.30a (DOS & OS/2) was released on 5-30-97, 20 months after v2.20bãNorco, CA WX: 55.5øF, 51.0% humidity, 5 mph S wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Re: Re: book: the chaos machiã By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Tue Mar 07 2023 11:16 amãã >> It seems to me there isn't really a good popular alternative toã >> Facebook. ãã DM> Reddit maybe?ããPerhaps. Often I check Reddit to see what my contacts there have posted; I haven't used Reddit as long as Facebook, but it does look like you can follow people on Reddit too.ãã >> Instagram only allows you to post photos,ãã DM> Replies to posts can be text and discussion do sometimes happen in thatã DM> form. ããYeah, though Instagram still seems limiting to me. I like that Facebook lets you post text, links, photos, etc. in the initial post.ãã >> post short text posts, etc.. There are other social media sitesã >> similar to Facebook but they aren't really popular anymore (MySpace,ã >> Orkut, etc.). ãã DM> Mastadon. I intend to start using Mastadon more for my "modern" socialã DM> media "needs" and look into Synchronet integration.ããI'm not familiar with Mastadon. I might have to check it out.ããMy use of a social media site like Facebook mainly depends on how many of my friends & family use it. If I don't know anyone who uses it, I'm not likely to use it either. Sites like Reddit seem a bit different though - I use Reddit mainly for news & information & help with various things.ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã

Re: Re: book: the chaos machiã By: Nightfox to Moondog on Tue Mar 07 2023 09:50 amãã >ã > It seems to me there isn't really a good popular alternative to Facebook.ã > Instagram only allows you to post photos, and Twitter only allows you toã > post short text posts, etc.. There are other social media sites similar toããyou can post comments on instagram. and you can also use more text in twitter and post pics.ããthere's also tons of sites that do the same thing as fb.ãdo we NEED an alternative?ããthere's other ways to keep in touch with 'friends'ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Re: Re: book: the chaos machiã By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Tue Mar 07 2023 11:16 amãã >ã > > It seems to me there isn't really a good popular alternative to Facebook.ã >ã > Reddit maybe?ããreddit isnt really the same format. it also is old and has a lot of echo chambers.ãã > > Instagram only allows you to post photos,ã >ã > Replies to posts can be text and discussion do sometimes happen in thatã > form.ããon instagram all posts have comments pretty much.ãunless they are just personal posts that nobody follows.ãã >ã > Mastadon. I intend to start using Mastadon more for my "modern" social mediaã > "needs" and look into Synchronet integration.ããi heard that pedophiles really flocked to mastadon.ããi prefer groups in telegram. you can do live chat or post pics and videos. and you can have groups and chats.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Re: Re: book: the chaos machiã By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Tue Mar 07 2023 11:16 amãã > Reddit maybe?ã > ã > > Instagram only allows you to post photos,ããI am not sure Reddit is an alternative to Facebook, but I read some materialãnot long ago suggesting Reddit is eating other social media alive.ããLong story short, when you look at the usage cures of most social media, youãrecognize the same pattern that products that go obsolete go through:ãããhttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/DiffusionOfInnovationã.png/220px-DiffusionOfInnovation.pngããI can't find the original material, but I remember Twitter broke its deathãdescent and spiked recently. Meanwhile Reddit was still in a healthy state.ãMost everything else was in the begining of its dying stage.ãã--ãgopher://gopher.richardfalken.com/1/richardfalkenãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FLã

Re: Re: book: the chaos machiã By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Tue Mar 07 2023 11:16 amãã > Mastadon. I intend to start using Mastadon more for my "modern" social mediaã > "needs" and look into Synchronet integration.ããMastadon appears to be more of a Twitter environment.ããBBSs could replace Facebook if we had some tweaks like:ãã1. Virtually unlimited nodes similiar to a webserverã2. Support for true graphics/video like png, jpg, gif, etcã3. True GUI environment for Client and Serverã4. Server probably operating under Linux exclusivelyã5. Rather than a massive data center, use distributed BBSsããThere's more to it, I'm sure. But you could do this!ããCheers,ãDennisã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Re: Re: book: the chaos machiã By: Airmailman to Digital Man on Mon Mar 20 2023 05:43:53ãã Ai> BBSs could replace Facebook if we had some tweaks like:ãã Ai> 1. Virtually unlimited nodes similiar to a webserverã Ai> 2. Support for true graphics/video like png, jpg, gif, etcã Ai> 3. True GUI environment for Client and Serverã Ai> 4. Server probably operating under Linux exclusivelyã Ai> 5. Rather than a massive data center, use distributed BBSsãã Ai> There's more to it, I'm sure. But you could do this!ãã Yes YOU could. So when can we expect a release from you?ã Regards, ã HusTler ãã...If it ain't broke, don't fix it.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Chaotic Bliss BBS - cbliss.synchro.netã

Mastadon. I intend to start using Mastadon more for my "modern" socialã DM> media "needs" and look into Synchronet integration.ããI think NoSkooler is doing the same kind of integration as a test right now with Enigma on his board (Xibalba).ããPerhaps you guys align.ãã-h1ãã... Xerox Alto was the thing. Anything after we use is just a copy.ã

Reddit maybe?ã Ni> ã Ni> Perhaps. Often I check Reddit to see what my contacts there haveã Ni> posted; I haven't used Reddit as long as Facebook, but it does look likeã Ni> you can follow people on Reddit too.ããI liked Reddit years ago (at the beginning), when it was like USENET to me, just with different UI. But when they'd changed the UX to become more "modern" and all the algorithmics to keep you engaged with the same dirty tricks as FB and Twitter did for years, I ditched Reddit and switched to HN and Lobsters just to get inspired by some links for tech topics.ããFor casual conversations I found BBSes my little sanctum. Clean, focused, lot of smart asses but at least we all get the rules of the game the same way and communicate toward engaging ourselves, not the ad system.ããThere is just few topics I don't see covered well but this electronic medium that I'd expect to have a nice online place for it. Nominally those are pen and paper rpgs and perhaps some digital art inspirations (hard to pitch that in a text terminal, so I don't blame anybody :>)ããMost of the rest of my online needs are here and there but within local and FTN networks if I'm curious and willing to discuss.ããMastodon is great to expose yourself a bit to the world, with a bit of a new illusion of having it under control, and sometimes (to my surprise) also a place for meaningful discussions or comments.ããThe rest is already classified as crap in my online world and If I still hold FB or LinkedIN accounts.. I keep them for passive not active usage only.ãã-h1ãã... Xerox Alto was the thing. Anything after we use is just a copy.ã

on instagram all posts have comments pretty much.ã MR> unless they are just personal posts that nobody follows.ããI find Instagram very womanish.. My wife loves Instagram, she follows some nonsense people who like to be celebrities, yet when I hear their stories... presumably success stories.. then I find them cheap and shallow. ããI try to skip all those conversations about commenting the instagram stories at the table as quickly as possible, without offending my significant other.ããBut I also find this is super addictive to her, albeit all I see is just meaningless scrolling.ããBut what can I do.. I must give 1 point to FB and the score is 1:2 in my household, so we're still winning. If I only could include the dog.. it'd be 1:3 then.... :>ãã-h1ãã... Xerox Alto was the thing. Anything after we use is just a copy.ã

Re: Re: book: the chaos machiã By: hollowone to MRO on Wed Mar 29 2023 11:57 amãã > MR> on instagram all posts have comments pretty much.ã > MR> unless they are just personal posts that nobody follows.ã >ã > I find Instagram very womanish.. My wife loves Instagram, she follows someã > nonsense people who like to be celebrities, yet when I hear their stories...ã > presumably success stories.. then I find them cheap and shallow.ããi find a lot of funny videos on instagram and then i download them and post to telegram. i dont post my own photos on there.ããã > I try to skip all those conversations about commenting the instagram storiesã > at the table as quickly as possible, without offending my significant other.ããi try to offend people as much as possible.ã > But what can I do.. I must give 1 point to FB and the score is 1:2 in myã > household, so we're still winning. If I only could include the dog.. it'd beã > 1:3 then.... :>ã >ããi give fb a 0ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

i try to offend people as much as possible.ããOh, I know you do :>ãã MR> þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ããbtw. What happened to this? no interest what so ever?ãã... Xerox Alto was the thing. Anything after we use is just a copy.ã

Re: Re: book: the chaos machiã By: hollowone to MRO on Thu Mar 30 2023 05:50 amãã > MR> þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã >ã > btw. What happened to this? no interest what so ever?ã >ããwhat does it look likeã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

what does it look likeããfailed promise.ãã... Xerox Alto was the thing. Anything after we use is just a copy.ã

Re: Re: book: the chaos machiã By: hollowone to MRO on Thu Mar 30 2023 12:36 pmãã > MR> what does it look likeã >ã > failed promise.ããokay you can fuck off now. i never promised anything, dipshit.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

okay you can fuck off now. i never promised anything, dipshit.ãã:DããGood old MRO, that was easy :) ããCalm down my friend. I did not mean to be mean.ãJust testing your abilities to respond quickly and on point :>ãã... Xerox Alto was the thing. Anything after we use is just a copy.ã

MRO wrote to hollowone <=-ãã MR> okay you can fuck off now. i never promised anything, dipshit.ããAlways the charmer, you.ãããã... Discard an axiomã--- MultiMail/Win v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ .: realitycheckbbs.org :: scientia potentia est :.ã

Re: Re: book: the chaos machiã By: hollowone to MRO on Fri Mar 31 2023 04:45 amãã > MR> okay you can fuck off now. i never promised anything, dipshit.ã >ã > :Dã >ã > Good old MRO, that was easy :)ã >ã > Calm down my friend. I did not mean to be mean.ã > Just testing your abilities to respond quickly and on point :>ã >ãi have another ability. it's when you go in my twit filter.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Re: Re: book: the chaos machiã By: poindexter FORTRAN to MRO on Fri Mar 31 2023 06:25 amãã > -=> MRO wrote to hollowone <=-ã >ã > MR> okay you can fuck off now. i never promised anything, dipshit.ã >ã > Always the charmer, you.ã >ããyou can fuck off too.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã