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Mixed Microsoft/Linux Platforms
From
jagossel@VERT/KK4QBN to
All on Fri Jan 27 19:17:52 2017
So, I do follow some of the Twitter users for different Microsoft productsãand serives: Visual Studio Code, .NET, and Channel 9.ããSince .NET Core, ASP.NET Core, and Powershell Core is open source, they haveãbeen having a lot of tweets around running .NET Core and ASP.NET Core apps onãLinux.ããThat and the fact that the next relase of SQL Server is going to run on Linux, ãand the fact it is now possible have GNU/Linux utilities with WindowsãSubsystems for Linux on Windows 10, it seems to me that Microsoft is makingãgreat strides to allow the possibility to mix and match platforms now.ããHow do you feel, as developers or those who are interested in being developers,ãabout this movement toward mixed platforms? Do you think it is a good thing, orãa bad thing? Do you there there is a lot of potential for Microsdt actuallyãsucceeding in allowing this mix and match? Do you think developers and systemãanaylsts has been welcoming of this change?ããThoughts?ãã-jagãCode it, script it, automate it!ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ KK4QBN BBS - (706)422-9538 - kk4qbn.synchro.net, Chatsworth GA USã
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From
Jazzy_J@VERT/JAYSCAFE to
jagossel on Sun Jan 29 06:53:00 2017
jagossel wrote to All <=-ãã ja> @VIA: VERT/KK4QBNã ja> @TZ: 412cã ja> So, I do follow some of the Twitter users for different Microsoftã ja> products and serives: Visual Studio Code, .NET, and Channel 9.ãã ja> Since .NET Core, ASP.NET Core, and Powershell Core is open source, theyã ja> have been having a lot of tweets around running .NET Core and ASP.NETã ja> Core apps on Linux.ãã ja> That and the fact that the next relase of SQL Server is going to run onã ja> Linux, and the fact it is now possible have GNU/Linux utilities withã ja> Windows Subsystems for Linux on Windows 10, it seems to me thatã ja> Microsoft is making great strides to allow the possibility to mix andã ja> match platforms now.ãã ja> How do you feel, as developers or those who are interested in beingã ja> developers, about this movement toward mixed platforms? Do you think itã ja> is a good thing, or a bad thing? Do you there there is a lot ofã ja> potential for Microsdt actually succeeding in allowing this mix andã ja> match? Do you think developers and system anaylsts has been welcomingã ja> of this change?ãã ja> Thoughts?ãã ja> -jagã ja> Code it, script it, automate it!ããI'm neutral. I will work the tools they give me. But, I really feel thatãMicrosoft is making moves to exit the OS business and get to SaaS. It wouldãnot surprise.ããI will say that right now, paying attention to the IT World and watching theãpolitics behind it is quite interesting. Lots of things are moving. ããJayãã... 2 + 2 = 5 for extremely large values of 2.ã--- MultiMail/Linux v0.49ã þ Synchronet þ JAYSCAFE2 - jayscafe2.jayctheriot.comã
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From
jagossel@VERT/KK4QBN to
Jazzy_J on Sun Jan 29 15:51:10 2017
Re: Mixed Microsoft/Linux Plaã By: Jazzy_J to jagossel on Sun Jan 29 2017 06:53 amãã > I'm neutral. I will work the tools they give me. But, I really feel thatã > Microsoft is making moves to exit the OS business and get to SaaS. It wouldã > not surprise.ããI heard about them wanting to leave operating system business and focus more inãAzure. It makes sense in two aspects: (1) more and more businesses (seems to)ãare moving to using cloud services, and (2) hearing that Windows 10 will be theãlast major release and just continuing to improve on it.ããThere is a rumor going around that there could be a possibility that Windowsãcould be open source, but I heard no official confirmation. It would seem to beãthe case when they made .NET Core, MSBuild, ASP.NET Core, and Powershell Coreãall open source. I guess there could be some truth to that, and one could sayãthat Microsoft could open up Windows, but again, I saw nothing official aboutãit.ããI guess only time will tell.ãã-jagãCode it, script it, automate it!ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ KK4QBN BBS - (706)422-9538 - kk4qbn.synchro.net, Chatsworth GA USã
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From
Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to
jagossel on Mon Feb 13 12:57:46 2017
Since .NET Core, ASP.NET Core, and Powershell Core is open source, they haveã> been having a lot of tweets around running .NET Core and ASP.NET Core apps onã> Linux.ãã> That and the fact that the next relase of SQL Server is going to run onã> Linux, and the fact it is now possible have GNU/Linux utilities with Windowsã> Subsystems for Linux on Windows 10, it seems to me that Microsoft is makingã> great strides to allow the possibility to mix and match platforms now.ãã> How do you feel, as developers or those who are interested in beingã> developers, about this movement toward mixed platforms? Do you think it is aã> good thing, or a bad thing? Do you there there is a lot of potential forã> Microsdt actually succeeding in allowing this mix and match? Do you thinkã> developers and system anaylsts has been welcoming of this change?ããI feel like this is a good thing. Linux seems to be getting more and moreãmature and popular over time, so it's good to see it being embraced by moreãcompanies, particularly big ones.ããHowever, I'm not totally sure I trust Microsoft. I'm not sure if Microsoftãreally just wants to support Linux or if they have some other intentions. I'mãwondering if they really believe it's in their best interest to support Linuxãin order to continue selling software, which may well be the case. If that'sãtrue, then I wonder if that means Windows sales are lacking these days? I'veãcertainly seen people moving away from Windows due to the changes starting withãWindows 8.1, and speculation about Microsoft going to a subscription model forãWindows.ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã
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From
Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to
jagossel on Mon Feb 13 13:00:31 2017
I heard about them wanting to leave operating system business and focus moreã> in Azure. It makes sense in two aspects: (1) more and more businesses (seemsã> to) are moving to using cloud services, and (2) hearing that Windows 10 willã> be the last major release and just continuing to improve on it.ãã> There is a rumor going around that there could be a possibility that Windowsã> could be open source, but I heard no official confirmation. It would seem toã> be the case when they made .NET Core, MSBuild, ASP.NET Core, and Powershellã> Core all open source. I guess there could be some truth to that, and oneã> could say that Microsoft could open up Windows, but again, I saw nothingã> official about it.ããI haven't heard about Windows possibly going open-source, but I've heardãspeculation that Microsoft might go to a subscription model for Windows. Ifãthat's the case, I imagine many (more) people would want to switch to anotherãplatform. I would most likely want to use something else rather than pay aãrecurring fee to use my own computer. Windows is my main OS, but I've beenãliking Mint Linux these days..ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã
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From
jagossel@VERT/KK4QBN to
Nightfox on Tue Feb 14 09:36:43 2017
Re: Mixed Microsoft/Linux Plaã By: Nightfox to jagossel on Mon Feb 13 2017 01:00 pmãã > I haven't heard about Windows possibly going open-source, but I've heardã > speculation that Microsoft might go to a subscription model for Windows. Ifã > that's the case, I imagine many (more) people would want to switch to anotheãrã > platform. I would most likely want to use something else rather than pay aã > recurring fee to use my own computer. Windows is my main OS, but I've beenã > liking Mint Linux these days..ããI have heard the same subacription-based Windows rumor as well. I am OK with itãas it implies renting a license for Windows and constantly getting the latestãupdates. If Microsoft does go down the route if doing a subscription, I willãhave to see how much they are going to charge. My family already has a fewãsoftware subscriptions: Office 365, Adobe Photoshop (wife only), and Adobe PDFã(wife only). If the price is too high and if they will only do one user perãsubscription, then I will only pay for it on my wife's computer.ããMe, personally, I will continue to use Antergos, GIMP, LibreOffice, and CUPSãPDF.ã-jagãCode it, script it, automate it!ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ KK4QBN BBS - (706)422-9538 - kk4qbn.synchro.net, Chatsworth GA USã
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From
Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to
jagossel on Mon Feb 20 13:36:48 2017
Re: Mixed Microsoft/Linux Plaã By: jagossel to Nightfox on Tue Feb 14 2017 09:36 amãã ja> I have heard the same subacription-based Windows rumor as well. I am OKã ja> with it as it implies renting a license for Windows and constantly gettingã ja> the latest updates. If Microsoft does go down the route if doing aã ja> subscription, I will have to see how much they are going to charge. MyããI just don't like the idea of paying a subscription to use an operating system.ãThe OS is a key part of a computer, so an OS subscription would mean that if Iãmiss a payment, then I can't use my computer at all. After spending money toãbuy a computer, I'd still like to be able to at least use it for something.ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã
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From
Jazzy_J@VERT/JAYSCAFE to
Nightfox on Thu Mar 2 05:40:00 2017
Nightfox wrote to jagossel <=-ãã Ni> @VIA: VERT/DIGDISTã Ni> @TZ: 41e0ã Ni> Re: Mixed Microsoft/Linux Plaã Ni> By: jagossel to Nightfox on Tue Feb 14 2017 09:36 amãã ja> I have heard the same subacription-based Windows rumor as well. I am OKã ja> with it as it implies renting a license for Windows and constantly gettingã ja> the latest updates. If Microsoft does go down the route if doing aã ja> subscription, I will have to see how much they are going to charge. Myãã Ni> I just don't like the idea of paying a subscription to use an operatingã Ni> system. The OS is a key part of a computer, so an OS subscription wouldã Ni> mean that if I miss a payment, then I can't use my computer at all.ã Ni> After spending money to buy a computer, I'd still like to be able to atã Ni> least use it for something.ãã Ni> Nightfoxãã Ni> ---ã Ni> þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comããI can almost guaruntee that Microsoft will nag you to death with notificationsãif they decide to go to a subscription-based OS. They are darn good of it now.ã Disabling notifications is a bear in Windows 10.ããWith that said, I use Microsoft products sparingly in my home. My kids useã*nix, wife is MS bound. There are a few game I have to dual-boot into Win7 toãplay. Jay's Cafe' is run on Win7 (for simplicity). But all remaining internetãservices are *nix-based.ããã __ __ã __ / /__ _______ __ __ __ / /ã/ // / _ `/_ /_ // // / / // / ã\___/\_,_//__/__/\_, /__\___/ ã /___/___/ ãã... DalekDOS v(overflow): (I)Obey (V)ision impaired (E)xterminateã--- MultiMail/Linux v0.49ã þ Synchronet þ JAYSCAFE - jayscafe.jayctheriot.comã
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From
Denn Gray@VERT/OUTWEST to
Nightfox on Fri Mar 17 08:08:13 2017
Re: Mixed Microsoft/Linux Plaã By: Nightfox to jagossel on Mon Feb 20 2017 01:36 pmãã > Re: Mixed Microsoft/Linux Plaã > By: jagossel to Nightfox on Tue Feb 14 2017 09:36 amã > ã > ja> I have heard the same subacription-based Windows rumor as well. I am OKã > ja> with it as it implies renting a license for Windows and constantly gettã > ja> the latest updates. If Microsoft does go down the route if doing aã > ja> subscription, I will have to see how much they are going to charge. Myã > ã > I just don't like the idea of paying a subscription to use an operating systã > The OS is a key part of a computer, so an OS subscription would mean that ifã > miss a payment, then I can't use my computer at all. After spending money tã > buy a computer, I'd still like to be able to at least use it for something.ã > ã > Nightfoxã > ãI am glad I have Linux to fall back on, Microsoft is getting way to greedy.ãI still use windows 7 on my Desktop but run all my servers on Ubuntu Linux.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ The Outwest BBS - outwestbbs.com - DOORS - Files -Dove-Netã
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From
Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to
Denn Gray on Fri Mar 17 12:38:06 2017
I am glad I have Linux to fall back on, Microsoft is getting way to greedy.ã> I still use windows 7 on my Desktop but run all my servers on Ubuntu Linux.ããYes, I'm glad I have a familiarity with Linux. If Microsoft starts charging aãsubscription fee for Windows, I think I'll end up switching to Linux. MintãLinux is currently my favorite distro, but I also like OpenSUSE (also back whenãit was just SuSE).ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã
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From
Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to
Nightfox on Sat Mar 18 00:25:44 2017
Re: Mixed Microsoft/Linux Plaã By: Nightfox to Denn Gray on Fri Mar 17 2017 12:38 pmãã > > I am glad I have Linux to fall back on, Microsoft is getting way toã > > greedy.ã > > I still use windows 7 on my Desktop but run all my servers on Ubuntuã > > Linux.ãã > Yes, I'm glad I have a familiarity with Linux. If Microsoft starts chargingã > a subscription fee for Windows, I think I'll end up switching to Linux.ã > Mint Linux is currently my favorite distro, but I also like OpenSUSE (alsoã > back when it was just SuSE).ããããi'll just keep stealing it. i have several legit copies of windows but iãprefer to steal it just because it's easier to install.ããwindows is a more polished product and linux is not for everyone.ããi prefer to just use linux as a sever OS. the oses i use for my desktops areãwindows. linux is still a mess in some respects.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã
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From
Denn Gray@VERT/OUTWEST to
Mro on Sat Mar 18 08:01:53 2017
Re: Mixed Microsoft/Linux Plaã By: Mro to Nightfox on Sat Mar 18 2017 12:25 amãã > i prefer to just use linux as a sever OS. the oses i use for my desktops areã > windows. linux is still a mess in some respects.ã > i prefer to just use linux as a sever OS. the oses i use for my desktops areã > windows. linux is still a mess in some respects.ãã I run most of my servers on Ubuntu 14.04, however I do run my Plex home serverãon a windows thin client PC and I run my BBS on that same PC.ãI prefer Linux for servers in most cases.ã I have tried many Linux Distro's but have settled on Ubuntu due to itsãstability and support.ã/aãã---ã þ Synchronet þ The Outwest BBS - outwestbbs.com - DOORS - Files -Dove-Netã
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From
Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to
Mro on Sun Mar 19 08:30:00 2017
Mro wrote to Nightfox <=-ãã Mr> windows is a more polished product and linux is not for everyone.ãã Mr> i prefer to just use linux as a sever OS. the oses i use for myã Mr> desktops are windows. linux is still a mess in some respects.ããAs much as I love Linux, I tend to do the same as you for pragmatic reasons -ãWindows still works better for me on the desktop, but Linux is hard to beat asãa server.ããã... No Purchase Required. Details in package.ã--- MultiMail/Win32 v0.49ã þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS in Bendigo, Australia.ã
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From
Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to
Denn Gray on Sun Mar 19 08:35:00 2017
Denn Gray wrote to Mro <=-ãã DG> I run most of my servers on Ubuntu 14.04, however I do run my Plexã DG> home server on a windows thin client PC and I run my BBS on that sameã DG> PC. I prefer Linux for servers in most cases.ããI use Debian or Raspian these days on machines acting as servers. Have heard aãlot of good things about Ubuntu, but like the way Debian is managed for theãmost part. I also tend not to run X, so have a strong preference for commandãline or curses based tools.ãã DG> I have tried many Linux Distro's but have settled on Ubuntu due to itsã DG> stability and support.ããI used to run Red Hat/CentOS, but after CentOS 6 made some major changes thatãbroke some software I was using at the time, I switched to Debian and have beenãhappy since.ããã... Whosoever diggeth a pit shall falleth therein.ã--- MultiMail/Win32 v0.49ã þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS in Bendigo, Australia.ã
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From
Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to
Mro on Sat Mar 18 21:22:41 2017
Re: Mixed Microsoft/Linux Plaã By: Mro to Nightfox on Sat Mar 18 2017 12:25 amãã Mr> i'll just keep stealing it. i have several legit copies of windows but iã Mr> prefer to steal it just because it's easier to install.ãã Mr> windows is a more polished product and linux is not for everyone.ãã Mr> i prefer to just use linux as a sever OS. the oses i use for my desktopsã Mr> are windows. linux is still a mess in some respects.ããWindows has been doing online activation since XP though.. I'm not sure I'dãwant to risk it, particularly if I want to install Windows updates.ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã
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From
Deavmi@VERT/KK4QBN to
jagossel on Sun Mar 19 08:20:36 2017
I'm not really interested in Microsoft languages, atleast as of now so for me Iãdo not really care and therefore having Microsoft products available onãGNU/Linux or not for me means nothing.ãã+==========+ããRegards,ãTristan B. Kildaire (Deavmi)ããEmail:
deavmi@ewbbs.synchro.net;
deavmi@kk4qbn.synchro.netãã+==========+ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ KK4QBN + (706)-422-9538 + kk4qbn.synchro.net + 24/7/365ã
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From
Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to
Nightfox on Sun Mar 19 12:34:29 2017
Re: Mixed Microsoft/Linux Plaã By: Nightfox to Mro on Sat Mar 18 2017 09:22 pmãã > Mr> i prefer to just use linux as a sever OS. the oses i use for myã > Mr> desktops are windows. linux is still a mess in some respects.ãã > Windows has been doing online activation since XP though.. I'm not sure I'dã > want to risk it, particularly if I want to install Windows updates.ããããthey have always defeated it, since xp. also you can manually install updates.ãi keep updates turned off and install what i want to install. i dont trust thatãshit.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã
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From
Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to
Vk3jed on Sun Mar 19 09:18:00 2017
I use Debian or Raspian these days on machines acting as servers. Haveã Vk> heard a lot of good things about Ubuntu, but like the way Debian isã Vk> managed for the most part. I also tend not to run X, so have a strongã Vk> preference for command line or curses based tools.ããIf you are not using X, then I don't think there is really much of a benefitãof running ubuntu. I installed it on one machine for a while. It was a moreã"bells-and-whistles," IMHO, for the X or desktop user. Cli utilities mayãhave been somewhat newer versions as, IIRC, they move stuff up to "stable"ãquicker.ããI eventually replaced ubuntu with debian on the machine in question. Moreãstable.ããHonestly, I have used linux as my primary desktop OS for about 17 years now.ãI used to keep a Windows 98SE machine up-to-date because I sometimes neededãit for things like Office or gaming. I currently have an XP partition on myãpersonal machine but I have probably not used it in at least 3 years. I amãpretty much able to do everything I want on the debian boxes.ããI could even move my DOS-based BBS, currently running under OS/2 for VMODEM,ãover to the debian box. I have tested it, am just too lazy to finish theãjob. :)ããSo, unless you have some proprietary software that only runs on Windows, I amãnot real sure these days what it is that a linux desktop cannot do thatãWindows can.ããããã... 2 + 2 = 5 for extremely large values of 2.ã--- MultiMail/IBMPcDos v0.43ã þ Synchronet þ CCO BBS * capcity2.synchro.net * 1-502-875-8938ã
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From
Joe Delahaye@VERT/LIONSDEN to
Mro on Sun Mar 19 20:03:46 2017
Re: Mixed Microsoft/Linux Plaã By: Mro to Nightfox on Sun Mar 19 2017 12:34:29ãã Mr> they have always defeated it, since xp. also you can manually installã Mr> updates. i keep updates turned off and install what i want to install. iã Mr> dont trust that shit.ããYou will find either one difficult to do in Windows 10. You cannot turn offãupdates, nor can you stop it from downloading automatically and installing. Iãhave not checked yet on the other machine which runs the insider Edition, butãthe upcoming Creator edition is supposed to give you some control over that.ãããHave a nice day.ãã... Federal Employment Principle: Confusion creates jobs.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ The Lion's Den BBSã
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From
Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to
Dumas Walker on Mon Mar 20 16:30:00 2017
Dumas Walker wrote to Vk3jed <=-ãã DW> If you are not using X, then I don't think there is really much of aã DW> benefit of running ubuntu. I installed it on one machine for a while.ã DW> It was a more "bells-and-whistles," IMHO, for the X or desktop user.ã DW> Cli utilities may have been somewhat newer versions as, IIRC, they moveã DW> stuff up to "stable" quicker.ããYeah, when I run servers, I simply don't have a need for X. I do pretty muchãeverything on the command line. And if I did happen to need X, I can alwaysãfire it up with "startx" or use VNC.ãã DW> I eventually replaced ubuntu with debian on the machine in question.ã DW> More stable.ãã DW> Honestly, I have used linux as my primary desktop OS for about 17 yearsã DW> now. I used to keep a Windows 98SE machine up-to-date because Iã DW> sometimes needed it for things like Office or gaming. I currently haveã DW> an XP partition on my personal machine but I have probably not used itã DW> in at least 3 years. I am pretty much able to do everything I want onã DW> the debian boxes.ããI use a wide variety of applications, and some (a decreasing minority) areãWindows only. Also, I just fund some of the maintenance of appl under Linux aãbit more "clunky" than Windows. Probably just a preference thing.ãã DW> I could even move my DOS-based BBS, currently running under OS/2 forã DW> VMODEM, over to the debian box. I have tested it, am just too lazy toã DW> finish the job. :)ããIndeed, Linux can run DOS software quite well. :)ãã DW> So, unless you have some proprietary software that only runs onã DW> Windows, I am not real sure these days what it is that a linux desktopã DW> cannot do that Windows can.ããI do have a bit of that, mostly in the "free as in beer" category.ããã... A student who changes the course of history is probably taking an exam.ã--- MultiMail/Win32 v0.49ã þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS in Bendigo, Australia.ã
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From
Nicholas Boel@VERT/PHARCYDE to
Vk3jed on Mon Mar 20 16:54:26 2017
On 3/20/2017 1:30 AM, Vk3jed -> Dumas Walker wrote:ãã DW>> So, unless you have some proprietary software that only runs onã DW>> Windows, I am not real sure these days what it is that a linux desktopã DW>> cannot do that Windows can.ãã V> I do have a bit of that, mostly in the "free as in beer" category.ããSince when is beer free? I wanna know where you hang out! :)ãã-- ãRegards,ãNickãã--- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45ã * Origin: thePharcyde_ distribution system (723:1/1)ã þ Synchronet þ thePharcyde_
telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin)ã
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From
Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to
Joe Delahaye on Mon Mar 20 20:36:16 2017
Re: Mixed Microsoft/Linux Plaã By: Joe Delahaye to Mro on Sun Mar 19 2017 08:03 pmããã > Mr> they have always defeated it, since xp. also you can manually installã > Mr> updates. i keep updates turned off and install what i want to install.ã > Mr> i dont trust that shit.ãã > You will find either one difficult to do in Windows 10. You cannot turn offã > updates, nor can you stop it from downloading automatically and installing.ã > I have not checked yet on the other machine which runs the insider Edition,ã > but the upcoming Creator edition is supposed to give you some control overã > that.ãããi only had windows 10 on a laptop that my girlfriend got from bestbuy and itãtook a dive after a few updates. i'm still running win7 enterprise. i dontãfeel i'm missing out.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã
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From
Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to
Nicholas Boel on Tue Mar 21 18:49:00 2017
Nicholas Boel wrote to Vk3jed <=-ãã V> I do have a bit of that, mostly in the "free as in beer" category.ãã NB> Since when is beer free? I wanna know where you hang out! :)ããWhen it's someone else's! :Dããã... Objects in taglines are closer than they appear.ã--- MultiMail/Win32 v0.49ã þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS in Bendigo, Australia.ã
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From
Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to
Mro on Tue Mar 21 09:09:21 2017
Re: Mixed Microsoft/Linux Plaã By: Mro to Joe Delahaye on Mon Mar 20 2017 08:36 pmããMr> i only had windows 10 on a laptop that my girlfriend got from bestbuy andãMr> it took a dive after a few updates. i'm still running win7 enterprise. iãMr> dont feel i'm missing out.ããI'm running 10 on a desktop and laptop now, and have another laptop runningãLubuntu. I put Windows 7 in a Virtualbox VM (the newer versions support Aeroã3d, which is nice)ããAfter running Windows 7 for a while again, I miss it. it feels so much lessãcluttered than 10, and does everything I need.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ realitycheckBBS --
http://realitycheckBBS.orgã
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From
Deavmi@VERT/KK4QBN to
Mro on Tue Mar 21 13:10:35 2017
Re: Mixed Microsoft/Linux Plaã By: Mro to Joe Delahaye on Mon Mar 20 2017 08:36 pmãã > Re: Mixed Microsoft/Linux Plaã > By: Joe Delahaye to Mro on Sun Mar 19 2017 08:03 pmã > ã > ã > > Mr> they have always defeated it, since xp. also you can manually instalãlã > > Mr> updates. i keep updates turned off and install what i want to instalãl.ã > > Mr> i dont trust that shit.ã > ã > > You will find either one difficult to do in Windows 10. You cannot turn ãoffã > > updates, nor can you stop it from downloading automatically and installinãg.ã > > I have not checked yet on the other machine which runs the insider Editioãn,ã > > but the upcoming Creator edition is supposed to give you some control oveãrã > > that.ã > ã > ã > i only had windows 10 on a laptop that my girlfriend got from bestbuy and iãtã > took a dive after a few updates. i'm still running win7 enterprise. i dontã > feel i'm missing out.ããIt's really average Widnows 10. Nothing new besides telemetry.ãã+==========+ããRegards,ãTristan B. Kildaire (Deavmi)ããEmail:
deavmi@ewbbs.synchro.net;
deavmi@kk4qbn.synchro.netãã+==========+ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ KK4QBN + (706)-422-9538 + kk4qbn.synchro.net + 24/7/365ã
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From
Joe Delahaye@VERT/LIONSDEN to
Mro on Tue Mar 21 13:41:36 2017
Re: Mixed Microsoft/Linux Plaã By: Mro to Joe Delahaye on Mon Mar 20 2017 20:36:16ãã > Mr>> they have always defeated it, since xp. also you can manuallyã > Mr>> install updates. i keep updates turned off and install what i wantã > Mr>> to install. i dont trust that shit.ãã >> You will find either one difficult to do in Windows 10. You cannotã >> turn off updates, nor can you stop it from downloading automaticallyã >> and installing. I have not checked yet on the other machine which runsã >> the insider Edition, but the upcoming Creator edition is supposed toã >> give you some control over that.ããã Mr> i only had windows 10 on a laptop that my girlfriend got from bestbuy andã Mr> it took a dive after a few updates. i'm still running win7 enterprise. iã Mr> dont feel i'm missing out.ããDid it come installed with 10, or was it updated? Some updates from 7 had someãproblems. You will be missing out in about 2 years I think, when it is noãlonger supported.ãããHave a nice day.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ The Lion's Den BBSã
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From
Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to
Joe Delahaye on Tue Mar 21 21:25:10 2017
Re: Mixed Microsoft/Linux Plaã By: Joe Delahaye to Mro on Tue Mar 21 2017 01:41 pmãã > Did it come installed with 10, or was it updated? Some updates from 7 hadã > some problems. You will be missing out in about 2 years I think, when it isã > no longer supported.ãããit was an update from windows 8 i believe. the daughter who i call theãdestroyer of all electronics dropped a ton of water on the keyboard and broughtãit to me asking if i could fix it. ããshe was using the couch as a desk and then put her waterbottle on the cushionãand ofcourse it dumped on the laptop.ãshe went through 5 iphones too.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã
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Mro on Wed Mar 22 02:03:40 2017
For me. Linux is way better. Fedora all the way.ãã+==========+ããRegards,ãTristan B. Kildaire (Deavmi)ããEmail:
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Mro on Wed Mar 22 19:00:58 2017
Re: Mixed Microsoft/Linux Plaã By: Mro to Joe Delahaye on Tue Mar 21 2017 21:25:10ãã >> Did it come installed with 10, or was it updated? Some updates from 7ã >> had some problems. You will be missing out in about 2 years I think,ã >> when it is no longer supported.ããã Mr> it was an update from windows 8 i believe. the daughter who i call theã Mr> destroyer of all electronics dropped a ton of water on the keyboard andã Mr> brought it to me asking if i could fix it. ãã Mr> she was using the couch as a desk and then put her waterbottle on theã Mr> cushion and ofcourse it dumped on the laptop.ã Mr> she went through 5 iphones too.ããSounds like my grandaughter. She used to go thru cell phones like crazy asãwell. Had two stolen out of her purse as well. Now at age 27 she is much moreãcareful <G>ãããHave a nice day.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ The Lion's Den BBSã
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Deavmi on Sun Mar 26 21:08:41 2017
Re: Mixed Microsoft/Linux Plaã By: Deavmi to Mro on Wed Mar 22 2017 02:03 amãã > For me. Linux is way better. Fedora all the way.ãã > +==========+ããããwhyã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã