Hey, does anyone tinker with these modern BASIC languages?ããBack in the day, BASIC was not 'viable' for many projects, because only machineãlanguage had the speed required. Then C++ was created, and as computers gotãfaster, people were able to program all kinds of things with it.ããBut now that computer speed is not a limitation to BASIC anymore, you can doãalmost anything with it, at least 2D-wise.ããSome people's brains can't handle the abstraction overload of programming, butãBASIC language gives them an opportunity to dabble with it anyway. I am one ofãthose people. Without BASIC, I couldn't program.ããI started with the Commodore 8-bit computers, and their easy-to-understandãBASIC syntax and user-friendliness of the I/O stuff (on the Atari, you have toãactually load a separate DOS to be even able to see what's on a floppy!).ããOf course, back in the day, the BASIC was slow, and the computers hadãlimitations. But nowadays I am able to more freely express myself inãprogramming.ããModern BASIC languages basically (no pun intended) allow me to do what I didãback in the day, but without all those limitations, AND 'fast enough'.ããSome BASICs even allow wonderful things, like alphablend, that helps whenãtrying to create Westwood-like moody atmospheres (Eye of the BEholder II intro,ãfor example).ããModern BASIC languages are, for me, a dream come true. They allow me toãcontinue the 'programming path' I started with the eight-bit computers, and toãrealize everything I was dreaming of realizing back then.ããAre there any other people here, whose brain is more of theã'absent-minded-artist'-variety rather than the programmer-typicalã'super-efficient-miracle-mathprocessor', and who appreciate the modern BASICãlanguages?ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ The Dungeon BBS - Risen from the Ashes! - Canberra, Australia. http://bbs.barnabã

Re: Modern BASIC languagesã By: Gorkh to All on Sun Sep 23 2018 04:25 amããI haven't used any BASIC variant in a decades... but thumbs up for your customãavatar!ãã digital manããSynchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #12:ãDCE = Data Communications Equipment (or Deuce, Stephen Hurd)ãNorco, CA WX: 90.9øF, 37.0% humidity, 3 mph ENE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Re: Modern BASIC languagesã By: Gorkh to All on Sun Sep 23 2018 04:25 amãã Go> Hey, does anyone tinker with these modern BASIC languages?ããI didn't think there was really a modern BASIC programming language.. Can youãgive an example of a "modern BASIC"? And I'm wondering if Microsoft's VisualãBasic even counts, since that language is fairly well-featured and ties intoã.NET now, so it shares a lot of features with the other .NET languages..ãã Go> Back in the day, BASIC was not 'viable' for many projects, because onlyã Go> machine language had the speed required. Then C++ was created, and asã Go> computers got faster, people were able to program all kinds of things withã Go> it. ããThey didn't go directly from machine language to C++.. There was a languageãcalled C in between there, which came before C++. C has sometimes been calledã"portable assembly" since it builds for many platforms but is still a languageãfor making fairly fast software (including operating systems).ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã

Re: Modern BASIC languagesã By: Gorkh to All on Sun Sep 23 2018 04:25:57ãã > Hey, does anyone tinker with these modern BASIC languages?ã > ã > Are there any other people here, whose brain is more of theã > 'absent-minded-artist'-variety rather than the programmer-typicalã > 'super-efficient-miracle-mathprocessor', and who appreciate the modern BASICã > languages?ããI, for one, whole-heartedly accepted FreeBASIC to write DOS programs in. Theãdialect is different, but FreeBASIC can be compatible with QBasic programsãwell, amomg the FreeBASIC compiler, FBC, has a parameter set.ããBelieve or not, Cobalt (an open source ANSI art program I've written mostly onãmy phone with Magic DOSBox and FreeDOS editor) was written in FreeBASIC.ããhttp://github.com/jagossel/cobalt if you're interested. <grin>ãã-jagãCode it, Script it, Automate it!ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ MtlGeek - Geeks in Montreal - http://mtlgeek.com/ -ã

Re: Modern BASIC languagesã By: Jagossel to Gorkh on Sat Sep 22 2018 08:24 pmãã Ja> I, for one, whole-heartedly accepted FreeBASIC to write DOS programs in.ã Ja> The dialect is different, but FreeBASIC can be compatible with QBasicã Ja> programs well, amomg the FreeBASIC compiler, FBC, has a parameter set.ããI remember using QBasic to write some fairly simple programs for DOS back inãthe day. I wrote a couple screen-saver like things that would do things likeãdraw circles in expanding/contracting sizes and with different colors and such.ããAnd with MS-DOS 5, I remember compiling the 'Gorilla' game with QBasic andãhaving fun playing it (that was the artillery-like game where you had a gorillaãcharacter and had to throw bananas at the other players).ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã

Re: Modern BASIC languagesã By: Nightfox to Jagossel on Sat Sep 22 2018 11:37 pmãã Ni> I remember using QBasic to write some fairly simple programs for DOS backã Ni> in the day. I wrote a couple screen-saver like things that would do thingsã Ni> like draw circles in expanding/contracting sizes and with different colorsã Ni> and such. ãã Ni> And with MS-DOS 5, I remember compiling the 'Gorilla' game with QBasic andã Ni> having fun playing it (that was the artillery-like game where you had aã Ni> gorilla character and had to throw bananas at the other players).ãããI remember typing that game in an compiling it.ãthat brought back basic memories.ãã... When Chuck Norris crosses the street, the cars have to look both ways.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ the Outwest BBS - outwestbbs.com - Email denn@outwestbbs.comã

Digital wrote:ãD> Re: Modern BASIC languagesãD> By: Gorkh to All on Sun Sep 23 2018 04:25 amãD> ãD> I haven't used any BASIC variant in a decades... but thumbs up for your customãD> avatar!ããI've with you. I last used BASIC since the mid 1990's. I actually wrote aãBBS for my 5th year computer science project. So I'd have been 16 at theãtime. I did snag some machine code to deal with the modem interrupts and theãcommunications back end but everything else was my own work. It was a dualãregular 8N1 and Viewdata (7E1) known as Videotext or teletext type data. Itãhad dynamic graphics, mailbox system, sysop chat with wordwrap! I neverãreally hit the big time with it since I ran up a big phone bill and myãparents cut my phone line, literally! :) When I found out, that was the dayãI officiall moved out haha.ããOh the days.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ End Of The Line BBS - endofthelinebbs.comã