• Are you a programmer? These interview tips may help

    From Digital Man@VERT to All on Thu Oct 31 20:12:09 2019
    I found myself interviewing for programming ("coding") and related management positions again this past summer - in small/mid-size networking and device companies to the massive corporations you know and love/hate (e.g. FAANG) and whom employ more software engineers than all the rest combined!ããHere is a summary of the lessons I learned through the proces:ãhttp://wiki.synchro.net/wiki:user:digital_man#interviewing_in_2019ãã digital manããThis Is Spinal Tap quote #17:ãDavid St. Hubbins: It's such a fine line between stupid, and uh... and clever.ãNorco, CA WX: 65.7øF, 8.0% humidity, 0 mph WSW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Thu Oct 31 23:10:38 2019
    Re: Are you a programmer? These interview tips may helpã By: Digital Man to All on Thu Oct 31 2019 08:12 pmãã > I found myself interviewing for programming ("coding") and related managemenã > positions again this past summer - in small/mid-size networking and deviceã > companies to the massive corporations you know and love/hate (e.g. FAANG) anã > whom employ more software engineers than all the rest combined!ãããso how do you feel about jumping through hoops at interviews? is this somethingãnew in your field?ãdo you think it's because google was known to ask odd questions?ããi have picked up some part time jobs and even for jobs that dont pay well itãseems like they try to get you off guard with interview questions. ããi was a professional job jumper from 18-28 because i worked regular jobs duringãthe winter and then worked at my family's motels during the summer so it didntãfaze me much. i thought it was funny when they asked what my boss would say badãabout me. like i would tell them. i told them all my reviews have been good forãover 15 years so i must be doing something right and i didnt lie.ããi'm supposed to be a tech for a weather station for a solar farm soon. they areãdragging their feet with building the station. i just applied because it seemedãinteresting and it was super flexable.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã
  • From Digital Man@VERT to MRO on Thu Oct 31 22:21:06 2019
    Re: Are you a programmer? These interview tips may helpã By: MRO to Digital Man on Thu Oct 31 2019 11:10 pmãã > Re: Are you a programmer? These interview tips may helpã > By: Digital Man to All on Thu Oct 31 2019 08:12 pmã >ã > > I found myself interviewing for programming ("coding") and relatedã > > managemen positions again this past summer - in small/mid-size networkingã > > and device companies to the massive corporations you know and love/hateã > > (e.g. FAANG) an whom employ more software engineers than all the restã > > combined!ãã > so how do you feel about jumping through hoops at interviews?ããNot too fun, but that's the field you have to run through these days.ãã > is this something new in your field?ããThe CS/algo-focused questions are relatively new to me - I first encountered them during a job search 2.5 years ago, but mainly at the bigger firms (FAANG). Now, it seems that method of interviewing has trickled down to everyone else, probably because they learned it from their experience interviewing at or working for the big names (e.g. Google) and now it's just the norm.ãã > do you think it's because google was known to ask odd questions?ããI think Google and the other biggest tech companies' style has a definite influence on other companies (copy success, why not?). I'm not a fan of riddles and word problems, especially. Most people are stressed while interviewing and not on their best game, so it's not really fair to be asking them tricky riddles while in that state and judging their intelligence based on their answer. But it happens, so you have to prepare and practice for it. <shrug>ãã > i have picked up some part time jobs and even for jobs that dont pay well itã > seems like they try to get you off guard with interview questions.ããOh, I've had weird experiences going all the way back to the late 80's. I remember one interviewer just stopped talking and stared at me for a solid minute. I just stared right back. I guess I passed that test because he made me a job offer (which I declined). But I've been asked some weird questions over the years.ãã > i was a professional job jumper from 18-28 because i worked regular jobsã > during the winter and then worked at my family's motels during the summer soã > it didnt faze me much. i thought it was funny when they asked what my bossã > would say bad about me. like i would tell them. i told them all my reviewsã > have been good for over 15 years so i must be doing something right and iã > didnt lie.ããYou *told* them you didn't lie, or you actually didn't lie? :-)ãã > i'm supposed to be a tech for a weather station for a solar farm soon. theyã > are dragging their feet with building the station. i just applied because itã > seemed interesting and it was super flexable.ããGood luck!ãã digital manããThis Is Spinal Tap quote #25:ãViv Savage: Have... a good... time... all the time. That's my philosophy.ãNorco, CA WX: 60.7øF, 9.0% humidity, 0 mph SW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Digital Man on Fri Nov 1 06:20:00 2019
    Digital Man wrote to All <=-ãã DM> I found myself interviewing for programming ("coding") and relatedã DM> management positions again this past summer - in small/mid-sizeã DM> networking and device companies to the massive corporations you knowã DM> and love/hate (e.g. FAANG) and whom employ more software engineers thanã DM> all the rest combined!ããDid your reputation precede you at any of the interviews?ãããã... What does this mean?ã--- MultiMail/XT v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ realitycheckBBS -- http://realitycheckBBS.orgã
  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Digital Man on Fri Nov 1 06:43:00 2019
    Digital Man wrote to MRO <=-ãã > do you think it's because google was known to ask odd questions?ãã DM> I think Google and the other biggest tech companies' style has aã DM> definite influence on other companies (copy success, why not?).ããI'm in IT management and went through a period of job-seeking recently. In ãmy field, old-school is back. "Behavioral Interviews" were the norm.ããOn at least 3 occasions I'd be in a room with a panel. They'd have pre- ãwritten self-evaluative questions provided to them that, if vague, the panel ãwasn't really able to answer (because they didn't write them).ããSo, each person would take a turn, you'd have a set number of minutes to ãanswer a question, and run out of time trying to cover the ambiguity.ããI later had to do the same as part of the panel and while I felt it was good ãto get an equal comparison of the candidates, wasn't able to get detail on ãthe individual skills I'd want to learn more about.ããThe other side of the coin was companies who googled "Technical questions ãfor IT Managers" and asked the same handful of questions. Describe what ãhappens when you enter a URL into a browser, asking what port DNS uses, then ãwhether it uses TCP or UDP (the answer: both - UDP for normal queries, TCP ãfor larger transactions like zone transfers)ããI usually knew those places weren't interested. If you have a team of 20 ãpeople and you're more concerned about technical minutae than my management ãstyle and skills, you're focused on the wrong skillset.ãããããããã I'm notã DM> a fan of riddles and word problems, especially. Most people areã DM> stressed while interviewing and not on their best game, so it's notã DM> really fair to be asking them tricky riddles while in that state andã DM> judging their intelligence based on their answer. But it happens, soã DM> you have to prepare and practice for it. <shrug>ãã > i have picked up some part time jobs and even for jobs that dont pay well itã > seems like they try to get you off guard with interview questions.ãã DM> Oh, I've had weird experiences going all the way back to the late 80's.ã DM> I remember one interviewer just stopped talking and stared at me for aã DM> solid minute. I just stared right back. I guess I passed that testã DM> because he made me a job offer (which I declined). But I've been askedã DM> some weird questions over the years.ãã > i was a professional job jumper from 18-28 because i worked regular jobsã > during the winter and then worked at my family's motels during the summer soã > it didnt faze me much. i thought it was funny when they asked what my bossã > would say bad about me. like i would tell them. i told them all my reviewsã > have been good for over 15 years so i must be doing something right and iã > didnt lie.ãã DM> You *told* them you didn't lie, or you actually didn't lie? :-)ãã > i'm supposed to be a tech for a weather station for a solar farm soon. theyã > are dragging their feet with building the station. i just applied because itã > seemed interesting and it was super flexable.ãã DM> Good luck!ãã DM> digital manãã DM> This Is Spinal Tap quote #25:ã DM> Viv Savage: Have... a good... time... all the time. That's myã DM> philosophy. Norco, CA WX: 60.7öF, 9.0% humidity, 0 mph SW wind, 0.00ã DM> inches rain/24hrs ã DM> ---ã DM> Synchronet Vertrauen Home ofã DM> Synchronet [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netãã... So, this is me. Who am I?ã--- MultiMail/XT v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ realitycheckBBS -- http://realitycheckBBS.orgã
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Digital Man on Fri Nov 1 10:32:54 2019
    Re: Are you a programmer? These interview tips may helpã By: Digital Man to All on Thu Oct 31 2019 08:12 pmãã DM> I found myself interviewing for programming ("coding") and relatedã DM> management positions again this past summer - in small/mid-size networkingã DM> and device companies to the massive corporations you know and love/hateã DM> (e.g. FAANG) and whom employ more software engineers than all the restã DM> combined! ãã DM> Here is a summary of the lessons I learned through the proces:ã DM> http://wiki.synchro.net/wiki:user:digital_man#interviewing_in_2019ããThanks for posting this - This comes at a good time for me, as I am in the job market myself now.ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Digital Man on Fri Nov 1 10:41:18 2019
    Re: Are you a programmer? These interview tips may helpã By: Digital Man to MRO on Thu Oct 31 2019 10:21 pmãã DM> The CS/algo-focused questions are relatively new to me - I firstã DM> encountered them during a job search 2.5 years ago, but mainly at theã DM> bigger firms (FAANG). Now, it seems that method of interviewing hasã DM> trickled down to everyone else, probably because they learned it fromã DM> their experience interviewing at or working for the big names (e.g.ã DM> Google) and now it's just the norm. ããI've had some algo type of questions in my interviews recently, and 10+ years ago or so. And sometimes they'll ask you to write a bit of code at the interview. Similar to what you said about the puzzle/riddle quesitons, sometimes I feel like it's difficult to answer such questions & exercises on the spot because you're stressed and not at your best game. Also, I've found people often take an iterative approach to writing software, where you write some code and get it working, and improve it later (and there are companies that do code reviews during code check-ins too) - so to expect you to write good code on the spot during an interview seems a little unfair in that regard.ããIt's a little better when they send you a coding exercise to work on in your own time and send it back to them.ãã DM> Oh, I've had weird experiences going all the way back to the late 80's. Iã DM> remember one interviewer just stopped talking and stared at me for a solidã DM> minute. I just stared right back. I guess I passed that test because heã DM> made me a job offer (which I declined).ããThat sounds pretty weird. I haven't had anyone do that to me (yet).ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã
  • From Digital Man@VERT to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Nov 1 12:30:38 2019
    Re: Re: Are you a programmer? These interview tips may helpã By: poindexter FORTRAN to Digital Man on Fri Nov 01 2019 06:20 amãã > -=> Digital Man wrote to All <=-ã >ã > DM> I found myself interviewing for programming ("coding") and relatedã > DM> management positions again this past summer - in small/mid-sizeã > DM> networking and device companies to the massive corporations you knowã > DM> and love/hate (e.g. FAANG) and whom employ more software engineers thanã > DM> all the rest combined!ã >ã > Did your reputation precede you at any of the interviews?ããI assume some interviewers perform some amount of due diligence and look at my LinkedIn profile or maybe google my name, but I've never encountered a prospective employer / interviewer that knew of my existence (or Synchronet for that matter) prior to my application. I usually don't mention Synchronet specifically either; I try to keep work and play separated. :-)ãã digital manããSynchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #7:ãBinkP = BinkD ProtocolãNorco, CA WX: 80.6øF, 4.0% humidity, 0 mph SW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
  • From Digital Man@VERT to Nightfox on Fri Nov 1 12:33:03 2019
    Re: Are you a programmer? These interview tips may helpã By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Fri Nov 01 2019 10:32 amãã > Re: Are you a programmer? These interview tips may helpã > By: Digital Man to All on Thu Oct 31 2019 08:12 pmã >ã > DM> I found myself interviewing for programming ("coding") and relatedã > DM> management positions again this past summer - in small/mid-sizeã > DM> networking and device companies to the massive corporations you knowã > DM> and love/hate (e.g. FAANG) and whom employ more software engineers thanã > DM> all the rest combined!ã >ã > DM> Here is a summary of the lessons I learned through the proces:ã > DM> http://wiki.synchro.net/wiki:user:digital_man#interviewing_in_2019ã >ã > Thanks for posting this - This comes at a good time for me, as I am in theã > job market myself now.ããI hope it helps!ãã digital manããSynchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #78:ãUART = Universal Asynchronous Receiver/TransmitterãNorco, CA WX: 80.6øF, 4.0% humidity, 0 mph SW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
  • From Digital Man@VERT to Nightfox on Fri Nov 1 12:39:25 2019
    Re: Are you a programmer? These interview tips may helpã By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Fri Nov 01 2019 10:41 amãã > It's a little better when they send you a coding exercise to work on in yourã > own time and send it back to them.ããI prefer the take-home tests/projects too, though sometimes they can get a bit out of hand. I worked on an interview project for SpaceX that took weeks to complete - I still didn't get that job.ããMy favorite interview questions are where they supply you with some code and ask you to find all the problems with it. I find those questions really easy for whatever reason.ãã > DM> Oh, I've had weird experiences going all the way back to the late 80's.ã > DM> I remember one interviewer just stopped talking and stared at me for aã > DM> solid minute. I just stared right back. I guess I passed that testã > DM> because he made me a job offer (which I declined).ã >ã > That sounds pretty weird. I haven't had anyone do that to me (yet).ããIt was just that one time. I sometimes wished I accepted that position as it was a management position very early in my career and could possibly have helped elevate my career trajectory. I had long hair at the time and the offer was contigent on my cutting it, so I declined. I still expected to become a "rock star" at that time. :-)ãã digital manããSynchronet "Real Fact" #105:ãYou're missing the action in #synchronet at irc.synchro.net!ãNorco, CA WX: 81.5øF, 4.0% humidity, 0 mph WSW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Digital Man on Fri Nov 1 13:05:29 2019
    Re: Are you a programmer? These interview tips may helpã By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Fri Nov 01 2019 12:39 pmãã DM> I prefer the take-home tests/projects too, though sometimes they can get aã DM> bit out of hand. I worked on an interview project for SpaceX that tookã DM> weeks to complete - I still didn't get that job. ããThat does sound out of hand. The longest one I had took maybe a couple hours or so.ãã DM> My favorite interview questions are where they supply you with some codeã DM> and ask you to find all the problems with it. I find those questionsã DM> really easy for whatever reason. ããI've had some of those questions. That kind of thing is very subjective though.. We do code reviews on our check-ins where I'm at now, and while there are some common suggestions you could make, it seems there's usually a variety of opinions, and some people pick code apart more than others.ãã >> That sounds pretty weird. I haven't had anyone do that to me (yet).ãã DM> It was just that one time. I sometimes wished I accepted that position asã DM> it was a management position very early in my career and could possiblyã DM> have helped elevate my career trajectory. I had long hair at the time andã DM> the offer was contigent on my cutting it, so I declined. I still expectedã DM> to become a "rock star" at that time. :-) ãã:) The place I'm at now has sometimes referred to its employees as "rock stars".ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Digital Man on Fri Nov 1 13:13:19 2019
    Re: Re: Are you a programmer? These interview tips may helpã By: Digital Man to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Nov 01 2019 12:30 pmãã DM> I assume some interviewers perform some amount of due diligence and lookã DM> at my LinkedIn profile or maybe google my name, but I've never encounteredã DM> a prospective employer / interviewer that knew of my existence (orã DM> Synchronet for that matter) prior to my application. I usually don'tã DM> mention Synchronet specifically either; I try to keep work and playã DM> separated. :-) ããI've heard sometimes it can help to mention that you have software projects you work on outside of work (even for fun), as it can help to show that you're really interested in software development and enjoy the work. You might also be able to use some of your own code as an example of some code you've written if they ask for that. I had a job interview where they asked for that once, and I did have some code I could show them, which I think helped.ããI think Synchronet is a great project to have, as it includes things like a network component (to be able to work with the various internet protocols), a database for messages, conversion of text attributes to/from ANSI, integration of JavaScript, etc..ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Fri Nov 1 17:58:23 2019
    Re: Are you a programmer? These interview tips may helpã By: Digital Man to MRO on Thu Oct 31 2019 10:21 pmãã > Oh, I've had weird experiences going all the way back to the late 80's. Iã > remember one interviewer just stopped talking and stared at me for a solidã > minute. I just stared right back. I guess I passed that test because he madeãããthat is really fucking creepy. i would have keep staring and then edged my wayãcloser and closer.ããone time when i was around 25-26 years old i had a guy ask me weird questionsãlike i was an 18 year old kid. i didnt look 18.ããhe knew my age but still asked me if i lived at "home" and what my hobbies wereãin highschool and what sports i played. he didnt go over my post highschoolãeducation or my job history on my resume. it was just some awkward conversationãthat lasted under 5 mins. ããhe also winced when i shook his hand. i have a firm handshake but that's theãfirst time i got that reaction.ãã > > would say bad about me. like i would tell them. i told them all my reviewã > > have been good for over 15 years so i must be doing something right and iã > > didnt lie.ãã > You *told* them you didn't lie, or you actually didn't lie? :-)ããno i never had a bad review. usually i dont even had a review. my boss tells meãhe did my review and i say ok. i did max out my position and i became aãminiboss but my pay wasnt good enough. So, i went into HR about how i didntãlike how they restructured my job and they mentioned that i have never beenãlate in over 15 years. well that didnt help me any. my boss has been changingãmy time when i'm late, but still! :Dã > > i'm supposed to be a tech for a weather station for a solar farm soon. thã > > are dragging their feet with building the station. i just applied becauseã > > seemed interesting and it was super flexable.ãã > Good luck!ããall i do is go there once a week and when they say and i level it and makeãadjustments. i do get my own building by myself as a base of operations....ãan old bakery!ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Nov 1 17:59:04 2019
    Re: Re: Are you a programmer? These interview tips may helpã By: poindexter FORTRAN to Digital Man on Fri Nov 01 2019 06:20 amãã > -=> Digital Man wrote to All <=-ãã > DM> I found myself interviewing for programming ("coding") and relatedã > DM> management positions again this past summer - in small/mid-sizeã > DM> networking and device companies to the massive corporations you knowã > DM> and love/hate (e.g. FAANG) and whom employ more software engineers thanã > DM> all the rest combined!ãã > Did your reputation precede you at any of the interviews?ãããwhen they start with the interview, put on the jason scott personality and sayããDON'T YOU KNOW WHO I AM?ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Nov 1 18:06:22 2019
    Re: Re: Are you a programmer? These interview tips may helpã By: poindexter FORTRAN to Digital Man on Fri Nov 01 2019 06:43 amãã > I'm in IT management and went through a period of job-seeking recently. In ã > my field, old-school is back. "Behavioral Interviews" were the norm.ãã > On at least 3 occasions I'd be in a room with a panel. They'd have pre-ã > written self-evaluative questions provided to them that, if vague, the panelã > wasn't really able to answer (because they didn't write them).ããsounds like the newlywood game.ãã > The other side of the coin was companies who googled "Technical questions ã > for IT Managers" and asked the same handful of questions. Describe whatã > happens when you enter a URL into a browser, asking what port DNS uses, thenã > whether it uses TCP or UDP (the answer: both - UDP for normal queries, TCP ã > for larger transactions like zone transfers)ãã > I usually knew those places weren't interested. If you have a team of 20ã > people and you're more concerned about technical minutae than my managementããsounds like they have no clue. ããi'd have to say the hardest interview was when i had a gauntlet of interviewsãfor acmi, company that made various medical devices. i went through about 4ãpeople that asked hard questions for about 25 mins and at the end i interviewedãwith them all at once.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Fri Nov 1 18:09:27 2019
    Re: Re: Are you a programmer? These interview tips may helpã By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Fri Nov 01 2019 01:13 pmãã > I've heard sometimes it can help to mention that you have software projects ã > work on outside of work (even for fun), as it can help to show that you'reã > really interested in software development and enjoy the work. You might alsã > be able to use some of your own code as an example of some code you've writtãããjust dont talk about your bbs the whole time or ham radio.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã
  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Nightfox on Sat Nov 2 10:02:00 2019
    On 11-01-19 13:13, Nightfox wrote to Digital Man <=-ãã Ni> I've heard sometimes it can help to mention that you have softwareã Ni> projects you work on outside of work (even for fun), as it can help toã Ni> show that you're really interested in software development and enjoyã Ni> the work. You might also be able to use some of your own code as anã Ni> example of some code you've written if they ask for that. I had a jobã Ni> interview where they asked for that once, and I did have some code Iã Ni> could show them, which I think helped.ããI found a similar thing in the hardware/networking area. When I was going forãa job as a PC tech at a training company, mentioning that I helped run aãhobbyist dialup ISP (in 1997) did carry a lot of weight. That meant knowledgeãof PCs, Linux, mosems, networking, server applications, etc. And yes, I didãget that job.ãã Ni> I think Synchronet is a great project to have, as it includes thingsã Ni> like a network component (to be able to work with the various internetã Ni> protocols), a database for messages, conversion of text attributesã Ni> to/from ANSI, integration of JavaScript, etc..ããI agree, it's definitely a showcasing of DM's skills as a developer.ããã... For a man of fortitude, there are no walls, only avenues.ã
    --- MultiMail/Win v0.51ã þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS, Bendigo Australia. freeway.apana.org.au
  • From Grease@VERT/DARKMATT to Digital Man on Fri Nov 1 09:47:00 2019
    Digital Man wrote to All <=-ãã DM> Here is a summary of the lessons I learned through the proces:ã DM> http://wiki.synchro.net/wiki:user:digital_man#interviewing_in_2019ããI'm not a coder, but there are great nuggets for any job applicant in there.ããGreaseãdarkmatt.synchro.netã... Borger King - We do it our way! Your way is irrelevant!ã--- MultiMail/Win v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ Dark Matter BBS * darkmatt.synchro.net * Howdy from Texas!ã
  • From Digital Man@VERT to Nightfox on Fri Nov 1 22:48:43 2019
    Re: Are you a programmer? These interview tips may helpã By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Fri Nov 01 2019 01:05 pmãã > >> That sounds pretty weird. I haven't had anyone do that to me (yet).ã >ã > DM> It was just that one time. I sometimes wished I accepted that positionã > DM> as it was a management position very early in my career and couldã > DM> possibly have helped elevate my career trajectory. I had long hair atã > DM> the time and the offer was contigent on my cutting it, so I declined. Iã > DM> still expected to become a "rock star" at that time. :-)ã >ã > :) The place I'm at now has sometimes referred to its employees as "rockã > stars".ããRed flag #1! :-)ãã digital manããSynchronet "Real Fact" #14:ãSBBSecho was originally written by Allen Christiansen (King Drafus) in 1994.ãNorco, CA WX: 65.4øF, 8.0% humidity, 0 mph WSW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
  • From Digital Man@VERT to Nightfox on Fri Nov 1 22:53:14 2019
    Re: Re: Are you a programmer? These interview tips may helpã By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Fri Nov 01 2019 01:13 pmãã > Re: Re: Are you a programmer? These interview tips may helpã > By: Digital Man to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Nov 01 2019 12:30 pmã >ã > DM> I assume some interviewers perform some amount of due diligence andã > DM> look at my LinkedIn profile or maybe google my name, but I've neverã > DM> encountered a prospective employer / interviewer that knew of myã > DM> existence (or Synchronet for that matter) prior to my application. Iã > DM> usually don't mention Synchronet specifically either; I try to keepã > DM> work and play separated. :-)ã >ã > I've heard sometimes it can help to mention that you have software projectsã > you work on outside of work (even for fun), as it can help to show thatã > you're really interested in software development and enjoy the work. Youã > might also be able to use some of your own code as an example of some codeã > you've written if they ask for that. I had a job interview where they askedã > for that once, and I did have some code I could show them, which I thinkã > helped.ããTrue, open source projects show a passion for the art, which is important. I definitely mention open source projects, but only in vague terms. If they want specifics (and the normally don't), then I would name names. Sometimes they just want to take a peek at your github (or even sourceforge) activity.ãã > I think Synchronet is a great project to have, as it includes things like aã > network component (to be able to work with the various internet protocols),ã > a database for messages, conversion of text attributes to/from ANSI,ã > integration of JavaScript, etc..ããIt's certainly relevant to a lot of pertinent work, but I wouldn't want someone randomly opening a source file and judging my skills/style based on it. Some of that code is nearly 30 years old and not something I feel is a good example of my current skills or style. And of course, I didn't write all of it myself.ãã digital manããThis Is Spinal Tap quote #33:ãNigel Tufnel: Well, so what? What's wrong with bein' sexy?ãNorco, CA WX: 66.0øF, 7.0% humidity, 0 mph WSW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to all on Sat Nov 2 11:28:02 2019
    Re: Are you a programmer? These interview tips may helpã By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Fri Nov 01 2019 10:48 pmãã > > DM> the time and the offer was contigent on my cutting it, so I declinedã > > DM> still expected to become a "rock star" at that time. :-)ãã > > :) The place I'm at now has sometimes referred to its employees as "rockã > > stars".ã > Red flag #1! :-)ãã > digital manãããi would imagine this place as being fairly new, with a lot of young people andãthey dont usually pay that well.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã
  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to MRO on Sat Nov 2 09:24:00 2019
    MRO wrote to Nightfox <=-ãã MR> just dont talk about your bbs the whole time or ham radio.ããI was quite proud of the fact that, from 1991 until 2012, someone at the ãcompanies I worked for would call me "Poindexter".ããã... Can you hear me?ã--- MultiMail/XT v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ realitycheckBBS -- http://realitycheckBBS.orgã
  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Digital Man on Sat Nov 2 09:28:00 2019
    Digital Man wrote to Nightfox <=-ãã > :) The place I'm at now has sometimes referred to its employees as "rockã > stars".ãã DM> Red flag #1! :-)ããI picture 4 lead guitarists on stage trying to crowd each other out...ããã... How did you find this place?ã--- MultiMail/XT v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ realitycheckBBS -- http://realitycheckBBS.orgã
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Digital Man on Sat Nov 2 11:22:05 2019
    Re: Re: Are you a programmer? These interview tips may helpã By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Fri Nov 01 2019 10:53 pmãã DM> It's certainly relevant to a lot of pertinent work, but I wouldn't wantã DM> someone randomly opening a source file and judging my skills/style basedã DM> on it. Some of that code is nearly 30 years old and not something I feelã DM> is a good example of my current skills or style. And of course, I didn'tã DM> write all of it myself. ããTrue, and good points.ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã
  • From Zombie Mambo@VERT/ZZONE to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Nov 3 10:47:36 2019
    Re: Re: Are you a programmer? These interview tips may helpã By: poindexter FORTRAN to MRO on Sat Nov 02 2019 09:24 amãã > -=> MRO wrote to Nightfox <=-ã > ã > MR> just dont talk about your bbs the whole time or ham radio.ã > ã > I was quite proud of the fact that, from 1991 until 2012, someone at theã > companies I worked for would call me "Poindexter".ã > ã > ã > ... Can you hear me?ããThere's a nerdy guy at my work who looks like Sherman from the old Peabody andãSherman cartoon. But we didn't feel Sherman was funny enough a name so we justãcall him Peabody. Now, 15 yrs later, the whole company thinks his name isãPeabody.ãããThanks,ãZombie Mamboãã---ã þ Synchronet þ +-=[ The Zombie Zone BBS * hcow.dynu.net:61912 ]=-+ã