So again,ãwhat computer should I use for book Basic computer Games.ãC64, CPET, VIC-20 ãor another?ãthx bye,ãBasschestraãCheers,ãBasschestraãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Diamond Mine Online BBS - bbs.dmine.net:24 - Fredericksburg, VA USAã

Re: Basic Computer Gamesã By: Basschestra to All on Sat Aug 15 2020 12:20 pmãã > So again,ã > what computer should I use for book Basic computer Games.ã > C64, CPET, VIC-20ã > or another?ã > thx bye,ã > Basschestraã > Cheers,ã > BasschestraããIt probably depends on which "Basic Computer Games" book. The C64 is the most popular fo the 3 you mentioned. And if you use an emulator (e.g. https://vice-emu.sourceforge.io/ or a TheC64 https://retrogames.biz/) it'll run in either C64 or VIC20 modes. Though I don't know why anyone would *choose* to program a VIC20 over a C64.ããSo I guess I would suggest you use an emulator, then you can use whichever is most appropriate for the book/chapter/section that you're learning from.ãã digital manããThis Is Spinal Tap quote #26:ãDavid St. Hubbins: They were still booing him when we came on stage.ãNorco, CA WX: 96.3øF, 33.0% humidity, 0 mph NE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Re: Basic Computer Gamesã By: Basschestra to All on Sat Aug 15 2020 12:20 pmãã Ba> what computer should I use for book Basic computer Games.ã Ba> C64, CPET, VIC-20 ã Ba> or another?ããThe C64 is going to likely have the most community support of anything in that Era, with possibly the Atari A8s reasonable second place, unless you're in the UK, in which case the Sinclair will have a larger userbase.ã---ãUnderminerãThe Undermine BBS - bbs.undermine.ca:423ãFidonet: 1:342/17ã---ã þ Synchronet þ The Undermine - bbs.undermine.ca:423ã

Re: Basic Computer Gamesã By: Basschestra to All on Sat Aug 15 2020 12:20 pmããIf you have the Creative Computing books, I think those sources were originally for a BASIC interpreter for a DEC minicomputer.ããMy experience trying to resurrect old BASIC games is that each interpreter has it's own quirks so you will have to massage the code to some extent no matter what BASIC system you want it to run on.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ The Undermine - bbs.undermine.ca:423ã

Re: Basic Computer Gamesã By: Underminer to Basschestra on Sat Aug 15 2020 06:16 pmãã > Re: Basic Computer Gamesã > By: Basschestra to All on Sat Aug 15 2020 12:20 pmã > ã > Ba> what computer should I use for book Basic computer Games.ã > Ba> C64, CPET, VIC-20ã > Ba> or another?ã > ã > The C64 is going to likely have the most community support of anything in thããThe C64 also has more specialized audio and video features (sprites, forãexample.) These can be accessed through poke and peek commands to theirãhardware addresses.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ The Cave BBS - Since 1992 - cavebbs.homeip.netã

Re: Basic Computer Gamesã By: Moondog to Underminer on Sat Aug 15 2020 11:38 pmãã > Re: Basic Computer Gamesã > By: Underminer to Basschestra on Sat Aug 15 2020 06:16 pmã > ã > > Re: Basic Computer Gamesã > > By: Basschestra to All on Sat Aug 15 2020 12:20 pmã > >ã > > Ba> what computer should I use for book Basic computer Games.ã > > Ba> C64, CPET, VIC-20ã > > Ba> or another?ã > >ã > > The C64 is going to likely have the most community support of anything inã > ã > The C64 also has more specialized audio and video features (sprites, forã > example.) These can be accessed through poke and peek commands to theirã > hardware addresses.ã > ãããthanks!ãCheers,ãBasschestraãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Diamond Mine Online BBS - bbs.dmine.net:24 - Fredericksburg, VA USAã

Basschestra wrote to All <=-ãã Ba> So again,ã Ba> what computer should I use for book Basic computer Games.ã Ba> C64, CPET, VIC-20ã Ba> or another?ããThe TRS-80 version of BASIC computer games is specific for the TRS-80.ããIf you don't have a TRS-80, then the BASIC Games for Microcomputers is the bookãto use.ããBut that version of BASIC computer games programs in BASIC to the "lowestãcommon denominator" and won't use any of theãfeatures in the C64, PET or VIC. It will treat your screen like a glassãteletype (no clear screen, no color, no cursorãpositioning) and no sound other than basic beep (i.e. print chr$(7) which isãASCII BEL - a teletype's bell).ããã... Sure I can help you out! Which way did you come in?ã--- MultiMail/Linux v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ Diamond Mine Online BBS - bbs.dmine.net:24 - Fredericksburg, VA USAã

If you want to play games then you should buy a console and the best one is play station 5. If not for gaming then stick to your pc. A have both and my play station is for triple-A games and especially Sony exclusives. The pc is for the world and online games. I play league of legends on my pc and I wish that online gaming will be available on consoles because I hate that I always have to buy different items for my pc. 2 weeks ago my monitor broke and I had to buy a new one. After some searching, I found a website https://10roar.com/ that had reviews on the best monitors. I chose the best option and it arrived today. I can easily say that this monitor is really good and that it will last.

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Re: Basic Computer Gamesã By: marymitch to Basschestra on Tue Sep 07 2021 03:34 pmãã ma> If you want to play games then you should buy a console and the best oneã ma> is play station 5. If not for gaming then stick to your pc. A have bothã ma> and my play station is for triple-A games and especially Sony exclusives.ã ma> The pc is for the world and online games. I play league of legends on myãã"The pc is for the world and online games" - Not sure what you mean. There are plenty of good PC games that don't need to be played online (as well as good online games). I've actually tended to be more of a PC gamer than a console gamer, and there are lots of good games for PC.ãã ma> pc and I wish that online gaming will be available on consoles because Iã ma> hate that I always have to buy different items for my pc. 2 weeks ago myããI was pretty sure online gaming is a thing on consoles? I thought all modern consoles these days connectd to the internet, and I thought there were multiplayer online games for consoles?ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã

Re: Basic Computer Gamesã By: Basschestra to All on Sat Aug 15 2020 12:20:52ãã > what computer should I use for book Basic computer Games.ã > C64, CPET, VIC-20ããIs there a specific book you're reading or you just want to dink around inãBasic?ãThe C64 is what I grew up with. It was extrememly popular and therefore you'llãget the most support there.ãHowever the basic is kind of crap actually. Almost anything you want to doãwith the hardware requires a complex series of peeks and pokes whereas otherãsystems (Apple II, TI-99/4a (extended basic), even TRS-80) had basic commandsãlike graphics, plot, sound, joystick, etc...ããThe basic on the C128 has a lot more commands so there's that.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Mutiny BBS - mutinybbs.com - telnet:2332 - ssh:2232ã

Divarin wrote to Basschestra <=-ãã > what computer should I use for book Basic computer Games.ã > C64, CPET, VIC-20ãã Di> Is there a specific book you're reading or you just want to dink aroundã Di> in Basic?ããI assume the book "BASIC Computer Games" by Ahl.ããThere were a few variations of the book for the TRS-80, C64, etc. But if it'sãjust the basic (he, he) one, then any BASIC will do since the games wereãintended to be used for (shall we call it) Common BASIC, which just about everyãcomputer at that time supported.ãã Di> However the basic is kind of crap actually. Almost anything you wantã Di> to do with the hardware requires a complex series of peeks and pokesã Di> whereas other systems (Apple II, TI-99/4a (extended basic), evenã Di> TRS-80) had basic commands like graphics, plot, sound, joystick, etc...ããYa, that had to do with many things, but mostly cost. So add graphic/soundãcommands to BASIC on the C-64, for example, they'd have to go back to Microsoftãand get a new license, which they didn't want to do for cost purposes. Or haveãtheir programmers spent a great deal of time, which they didn't want to do,ãagain for cost purposes.ããThe programs in "BASIC Computer Games" will run on just about anyãimplementation of BASIC from the Altair through GW-BASIC on the IBM-PC.ããã... Cats are smarter than dogs. Eight cats won't pull a sled.ã--- MultiMail/Linux v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ Diamond Mine Online BBS - bbs.dmine.net:24 - Fredericksburg, VA USAã

Re: Basic Computer Gamesã By: Divarin to Basschestra on Thu Sep 30 2021 04:48 pmãã > > what computer should I use for book Basic computer Games.ã > > C64, CPET, VIC-20ã > Is there a specific book you're reading or you just want to dink around inã > Basic?ã > systems (Apple II, TI-99/4a (extended basic), even TRS-80) had basicã > commands like graphics, plot, sound, joystick, etc...ã > The basic on the C128 has a lot more commands so there's that.ã The plus/4 has all those commands as well...ããJohn GuilloryãKF5QEO/AEãwestlakegeek@yahoo.comãjohn.guillory@kf5qeo.synchronetbbs.orgãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Kf5qeo's Shackã

Re: Basic Computer Gamesã By: Divarin to Basschestra on Thu Sep 30 2021 04:48 pmãã > > what computer should I use for book Basic computer Games.ã > > C64, CPET, VIC-20ã >ã > Is there a specific book you're reading or you just want to dink around inã > Basic?ã > The C64 is what I grew up with. It was extrememly popular and thereforeã > you'll get the most support there.ã > However the basic is kind of crap actually. Almost anything you want to doã > with the hardware requires a complex series of peeks and pokes whereas otherã > systems (Apple II, TI-99/4a (extended basic), even TRS-80) had basicã > commands like graphics, plot, sound, joystick, etc...ã >ã > The basic on the C128 has a lot more commands so there's that.ããYou can get Simon's Basic for the C64, I had alot of fun with that as a kid. It extends the C64's basic command set.ãã---TLMãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Nite Eyes BBS - To make people happy about my tagline everywhere...ã