is there a way to determine the total number of "unread" messages (by messages ãi mean message board messages) and display that to the user?ãããã---ã þ Synchronet þ .. hax0r's palace .. you've just been hax0r'd ..ã

Re: message countã By: Hax0r to All on Wed May 01 2002 11:20 pmãã > is there a way to determine the total number of "unread" messages (by messagã > i mean message board messages) and display that to the user?ããNot using Baja, no. Possibly using JS, and certainly using C.ãã digital manã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

RE: message countãBY: Digital Man to Hax0r on Thu May 02 2002 12:57 amãã > > is there a way to determine the total number of "unread" messages (by meã > > i mean message board messages) and display that to the user?ã > ã > Not using Baja, no. Possibly using JS, and certainly using C.ããso, i'm assuming i'd have to implement some functionality of SMBLib and run it ãas a door to tell users how many unread message base message they have?ãããã---ã þ Synchronet þ .. hax0r's palace .. you've just been hax0r'd ..ã

Re: message countã By: Hax0r to Digital Man on Tue May 07 2002 09:30 pmãã > > > is there a way to determine the total number of "unread" messages (by ã > > > i mean message board messages) and display that to the user?ã > >ã > > Not using Baja, no. Possibly using JS, and certainly using C.ã > ã > so, i'm assuming i'd have to implement some functionality of SMBLib and run ã > as a door to tell users how many unread message base message they have?ããIf you wanted to write in C or C++, yes. Actually you would utilize "someãfunctionality" of the SMBLIB (not implement it). This kind of thing should beãdoable with JS, if not now, then certainly in the future.ãã digital manã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

RE: message countãBY: Digital Man to Hax0r on Wed May 08 2002 12:36 amãã > If you wanted to write in C or C++, yes. Actually you would utilize "someã > functionality" of the SMBLIB (not implement it). This kind of thing should ã > doable with JS, if not now, then certainly in the future.ããwell, i started looking at the document on the SMB format -- heh, i havent ãdone any c programming in quite some time, but the doc is fairly readable. by ãday i'm a vb programmer... since it seemed as if you had the formats pretty ãwell defined, i've tinkered with the thought of creating classes to wrap the ãlayout and maybe tap into the message base files --- tinkered with the thought ãis the operative word here there's not really any code written yet.ããanyways, i'd go the javascript approach, but i just don't even want to go ãthere. i'm not a real big fan of javascript -- partly because i'm cold as ãdirt using it, and the only real thing i've ever done with java script is web ãclient side validation of values. sure, i could learn the object model, but ãi'd much rather stick to something i'm more familiar with before i start ãexploring javascript and waste a whole lot of time writing this simple little ãprogram.ããããã---ã þ Synchronet þ .. hax0r's palace .. you've just been hax0r'd ..ã

ã"Hax0r" <Hax0r@VERT> wrote in messageãnews:3CD995CC.118.BAJAPROG@theroughnecks.net...ã> RE: message countã> BY: Digital Man to Hax0r on Wed May 08 2002 12:36 amã>ã> > If you wanted to write in C or C++, yes. Actually you would utilize "someã> > functionality" of the SMBLIB (not implement it). This kind of thing shouldã> > doable with JS, if not now, then certainly in the future.ã>ã> well, i started looking at the document on the SMB format -- heh, i haventã> done any c programming in quite some time, but the doc is fairly readable.ãbyã> day i'm a vb programmer... since it seemed as if you had the formats prettyã> well defined, i've tinkered with the thought of creating classes to wrap theã> layout and maybe tap into the message base files --- tinkered with theãthoughtã> is the operative word here there's not really any code written yet.ããActually, this wouldn't be a bad idea, isn't most of the smb functionalityãalready in an api/dll that you could call in vb? Haven't really looked,ãbecause my own preference would be doing it in JS... also, you just want theãmessages unread for the current area, correct?ãã> anyways, i'd go the javascript approach, but i just don't even want to goã> there. i'm not a real big fan of javascript -- partly because i'm cold asã> dirt using it, and the only real thing i've ever done with java script is webã> client side validation of values. sure, i could learn the object model, butã> i'd much rather stick to something i'm more familiar with before i startã> exploring javascript and waste a whole lot of time writing this simple littleã> program.ããJavascript does have a lot more usefulness.. can be used for other mods inãsynchronet, and imho more flexable then baja... beyond this, you can do a lotãmore on the browser with js... In ASP on the webserver, you can use JS for theãserver-side scripting, as well as the fact that PHP, and Flash/Shockwave have aãsimilar syntax, making these easier to learn.ãã=======================================================================ãMichael J. Ryan - tracker1[*at*]theroughnecks.comãRoughneck BBS: http://www.theroughnecks.net telnet://theroughnecks.netã=======================================================================ãY!: aztracker1 - aim: azTracker1 - icq: 4935386 - msn: see emailãOne program for aim/icq/yahoo/msn/irc - http://www.trillian.cc/ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ *QWK Origin: Roughneck BBS - theroughnecks.netã

RE: message countãBY: Tracker1 to All on Thu May 09 2002 11:05 amãã > Actually, this wouldn't be a bad idea, isn't most of the smb functionalityã > already in an api/dll that you could call in vb? Haven't really looked,ã > because my own preference would be doing it in JS... also, you just want thã > messages unread for the current area, correct?ããyeah, just the message unread. there's no API that I'm aware which can be ãused to tap into. I was under the assumption that i'd have to write my own ãcode to do it given the specs. Rob seems to have the format pretty well laid ãout, it would just be a decent amount of work.ãã > Javascript does have a lot more usefulness.. can be used for other mods inã > synchronet, and imho more flexable then baja... beyond this, you can do a lã > more on the browser with js... In ASP on the webserver, you can use JS for ã > server-side scripting, as well as the fact that PHP, and Flash/Shockwave haã > similar syntax, making these easier to learn.ããuntil javascript becomes more user friendly, i have no interest in it. i ãremember doing client side validation just how much of a pain in the ass it ãwas to figure out the object model for shit. i had to dig through web page ãafer web page to find the reference for javascript on Netscapes web site. ãI've lost the link since then, and really don't feel i should have to learn ãnot only the javascript object model, but the synchronet one as well -- thats ãjust too much to ask. besides, as i said earlier -- javascript really holds ãno interest to me. i honestly hope that the damn thing just goes away and ãpeople use something a bit more sensible -- like vbscript ;)ãããã---ã þ Synchronet þ .. hax0r's palace .. you've just been hax0r'd ..ã

Re: message countã By: Hax0r to Tracker1 on Thu May 09 2002 08:18 pmãã > > Actually, this wouldn't be a bad idea, isn't most of the smb functionalitã > > already in an api/dll that you could call in vb? Haven't really looked,ã > > because my own preference would be doing it in JS... also, you just want ã > > messages unread for the current area, correct?ã > ã > yeah, just the message unread. there's no API that I'm aware which can beã > used to tap into. I was under the assumption that i'd have to write my ownã > code to do it given the specs. Rob seems to have the format pretty well laiã > out, it would just be a decent amount of work.ããThere is an API, it's called SMBLIB. If you're going to write it in C/C++, useãthe SMBLIB (src/sbbs3/smblib.c) to save yourself a ton of work.ãã > > Javascript does have a lot more usefulness.. can be used for other mods iã > > synchronet, and imho more flexable then baja... beyond this, you can do aã > > more on the browser with js... In ASP on the webserver, you can use JS foã > > server-side scripting, as well as the fact that PHP, and Flash/Shockwave ã > > similar syntax, making these easier to learn.ã > ã > until javascript becomes more user friendly, i have no interest in it. iã > remember doing client side validation just how much of a pain in the ass itã > was to figure out the object model for shit. i had to dig through web pageã > afer web page to find the reference for javascript on Netscapes web site.ããYou mean this one?ããhttp://developer.netscape.com/docs/manuals/js/core/jsref15/contents.htmlãã > I've lost the link since then, and really don't feel i should have to learnã > not only the javascript object model, but the synchronet one as well -- thatã > just too much to ask. besides, as i said earlier -- javascript really holdsã > no interest to me. i honestly hope that the damn thing just goes away andã > people use something a bit more sensible -- like vbscript ;)ããVBScript is proprietary. JavaScript is not going away.ãã digital manã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

RE: message countãBY: Digital Man to Hax0r on Thu May 09 2002 11:01 pmãã > There is an API, it's called SMBLIB. If you're going to write it in C/C++, ã > the SMBLIB (src/sbbs3/smblib.c) to save yourself a ton of work.ããwell, it would be nice to compile it into a dll and be able to utilize it from ãother languages.... one of these days i'll have to spend some time and take a ãlook at whats already there ;)ãã > You mean this one?ã > ã > http://developer.netscape.com/docs/manuals/js/core/jsref15/contents.htmlããYES!!! hehe.. You wouldn't want to know how much time it took me to find that ãway back when. Netscape's site is not very user/search friendly -- atleast it ãwasn't last time i went looking for that doc.ãã > VBScript is proprietary. JavaScript is not going away.ããVBScript is ALOT easier to program in, atleast I think so. I was being ãcynical when I said Javascript is going to go away -- I know its not, but ãhonestly I wish it would... hehãããã---ã þ Synchronet þ .. hax0r's palace .. you've just been hax0r'd ..ã

RE: message countãBY: Hax0r to Digital Man on Sun May 12 2002 12:25 amãã > VBScript is ALOT easier to program in, atleast I think so. I was beingã > cynical when I said Javascript is going to go away -- I know its not, butã > honestly I wish it would... hehããã4 out of 5 script kiddies actually do admit VBS is their choice.ãããã---ã þ Synchronet þ StarKnight BBS - Billings, MT USA - Fidonet 1:xxx/xxxã

Re: message countã By: Hax0r to Digital Man on Sun May 12 2002 12:25 amãã > > There is an API, it's called SMBLIB. If you're going to write it in C/C++ã > > the SMBLIB (src/sbbs3/smblib.c) to save yourself a ton of work.ã > ã > well, it would be nice to compile it into a dll and be able to utilize it frã > other languages.... one of these days i'll have to spend some time and take ã > look at whats already there ;)ããIt already is: exec/sbbs.dll - all the smblib functions are exported.ãã digital manã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

RE: message countãBY: Digital Man to Hax0r on Mon May 13 2002 02:04 pmãã > It already is: exec/sbbs.dll - all the smblib functions are exported.ã > ããreally? i never knew that! wow, that makes things really interesting. i'll ãdefinately have to look into things now. do you provide an API somewhere as ãto exactly whats publically accessible and what params it takes/returns?ãããã---ã þ Synchronet þ .. hax0r's palace .. you've just been hax0r'd ..ã

Re: message countã By: Hax0r to Digital Man on Tue May 14 2002 08:41 pmãã > > It already is: exec/sbbs.dll - all the smblib functions are exported.ã > >ã > ã > really? i never knew that! wow, that makes things really interesting. i'llã > definately have to look into things now. do you provide an API somewhere asã > to exactly whats publically accessible and what params it takes/returns?ããYes, src/sbbs3/smblib.h.ãã digital manã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

RE: message countãBY: Digital Man to Hax0r on Tue May 14 2002 10:20 pmãã > > really? i never knew that! wow, that makes things really interesting. ã > > definately have to look into things now. do you provide an API somewherã > > to exactly whats publically accessible and what params it takes/returns?ã > ã > Yes, src/sbbs3/smblib.h.ããdude.. thanks a lot. only question is, is there any place i can get just that ãheader file and not have to download the entire sbbs source package?ãããã---ã þ Synchronet þ .. hax0r's palace .. you've just been hax0r'd ..ã

Re: message countã By: Hax0r to Digital Man on Wed May 15 2002 09:57 pmãã > > > really? i never knew that! wow, that makes things really interesting.ã > > > definately have to look into things now. do you provide an API somewhã > > > to exactly whats publically accessible and what params it takes/returnã > >ã > > Yes, src/sbbs3/smblib.h.ã > ã > dude.. thanks a lot. only question is, is there any place i can get just thã > header file and not have to download the entire sbbs source package?ããYes, ãhttp://cvs.synchro.net/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/src/sbbs3/scfglib.h?rev=1.ã15&content-type=text/plainããOf course, if you plan to #include it in your source code, you'll need someãother files as well (smbdefs.h, filewrap.h, etc.).ãã digital manã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

RE: message countãBY: Hax0r to Digital Man on Wed May 15 2002 09:57 pmãã > RE: message countã > BY: Digital Man to Hax0r on Tue May 14 2002 10:20 pmã > ã > > > really? i never knew that! wow, that makes things really interesting.ã > > > definately have to look into things now. do you provide an API somewhã > > > to exactly whats publically accessible and what params it takes/returnã > >ã > > Yes, src/sbbs3/smblib.h.ã > ã > dude.. thanks a lot. only question is, is there any place i can get just thã > header file and not have to download the entire sbbs source package?ã > ã > ã > ããWell, you can always pull a single file via CVS... if you don't have cvsãinstalled, you can use cvsweb... there's a link from http://cvs.synchro.net/ãand download individual files.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ telnet://FreeBSD.synchro.net ``Penguins are tasty snacks''ã

RE: message countãBY: Digital Man to Hax0r on Wed May 15 2002 11:06 pmãã > Yes, ã > http://cvs.synchro.net/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/src/sbbs3/scfglib.h?reã > 15&content-type=text/plainã > ã > Of course, if you plan to #include it in your source code, you'll need someã > other files as well (smbdefs.h, filewrap.h, etc.).ããcan't i just add the dll as a reference and declare the functions in vb to ãcall them? i've done this with several other dlls....ãããã---ã þ Synchronet þ .. hax0r's palace .. you've just been hax0r'd ..ã

Re: message countã By: Hax0r to Digital Man on Thu May 16 2002 06:22 pmãã > > Yes,ã > > http://cvs.synchro.net/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/src/sbbs3/scfglib.h?ã > > 15&content-type=text/plainã > >ã > > Of course, if you plan to #include it in your source code, you'll need soã > > other files as well (smbdefs.h, filewrap.h, etc.).ã > ã > can't i just add the dll as a reference and declare the functions in vb toã > call them? i've done this with several other dlls....ããYes, but the parameters are complex-types (defined smbdefs.h). I'm not sure howãyou'll convert those to VB types.ãã digital manã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

RE: message countãBY: Digital Man to Hax0r on Thu May 16 2002 07:36 pmãã > Yes, but the parameters are complex-types (defined smbdefs.h). I'm not sureã > you'll convert those to VB types.ããso are the parameters a pointer to a struct -- or by Complex, do you actually ãmean the numeric "complex" type. if they are pointers to a struct, then i ãshould be able to mirror the structure in VB and send in a pointer to the ãstructure. vb isn't that much different than traditional programming ãlanguages, it just hides a lot of the "complexities" from the user -- ie ãpointers/references.ãããã---ã þ Synchronet þ .. hax0r's palace .. you've just been hax0r'd ..ã

Re: message countã By: Hax0r to Digital Man on Sun Jun 09 2002 04:53 pmãã > > Yes, but the parameters are complex-types (defined smbdefs.h). I'm not suã > > you'll convert those to VB types.ã > ã > so are the parameters a pointer to a struct -- or by Complex, do you actuallã > mean the numeric "complex" type. ããThey are pointers to structures (defined in smbdefs.h).ãã digital manã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã