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Hax0r@VERT/HAX0RQWK to
All on Fri Jul 13 21:19:00 2001
is it just my setup, or does the baja random function seem to be somehowrelated to screen length/position/buffer (one of them anyways -- not 100%sure which one it is, but i'm leaning toward "total lines output")... i found that changing ANSWER.ASC to do a @EXEC:<mybajamodulehere>@, where the baja module generates a random number right of the bat causes the randome number to *always* be the same thing...whats the scoop?--- Synchronet .. hax0r's palace .. you've just been hax0r'd ..
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Digital Man@VERT to
Hax0r on Sat Jul 14 18:14:17 2001
RE: umm...BY: Hax0r to All on Sat Jul 14 2001 04:19 am > is it just my setup, or does the baja random function seem to be somehow > related to screen length/position/buffer (one of them anyways -- not 100% > sure which one it is, but i'm leaning toward "total lines output") > > ... i found that changing ANSWER.ASC to do a @exec:<mybajamodulehere>@, wher > > whats the scoop?I don't know, that's odd. What if the module runs later? What's the numberbeing generated?-Rob--- Synchronet Vertrauen Home of Synchronet [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
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Evan Elias@VERT to
Hax0r on Sun Jul 15 06:28:25 2001
RE: umm...BY: Hax0r to All on Sat Jul 14 2001 04:19 am > is it just my setup, or does the baja random function seem to be somehow > related to screen length/position/buffer (one of them anyways -- not 100% > sure which one it is, but i'm leaning toward "total lines output") > > ... i found that changing ANSWER.ASC to do a @EXEC:<mybajamodulehere>@, wher > > whats the scoop?I've found that random numbers in general seem to be a little goofy in Win32programs... the first "random" number in general always seems to be the same(even when properly using the timer to randomize things). I have no idea whythis happens. In all my win32 programs that I've written, I now do a few dozendummy calls to the random number function, seems to fix the problem (Shrug?)--- Synchronet Vertrauen Home of Synchronet [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
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Digital Man on Sun Jul 15 14:06:00 2001
RE: umm...BY: Digital Man to Hax0r on Sun Jul 15 2001 01:14 am > I don't know, that's odd. What if the module runs later? What's the number > being generated?basically i'm having it generate a random number so i can display a random ANSWER screen. it so happens that the random number generated (if no text is on the screen) is *always* zero. If i do a "cls" in the baja module (thus one screen operation), the random number generated is always 1. its just pretty strange. if i run the module after logon (and a lot of screen activity has occured), i always do get a random number...any ideas?--- Synchronet .. hax0r's palace .. you've just been hax0r'd ..
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Digital Man@VERT to
Hax0r on Sun Jul 15 15:27:11 2001
RE: umm...BY: Hax0r to Digital Man on Sun Jul 15 2001 09:06 pm > > I don't know, that's odd. What if the module runs later? What's the numbe > > being generated? > > basically i'm having it generate a random number so i can display a random > ANSWER screen. it so happens that the random number generated (if no text i > on the screen) is *always* zero. If i do a "cls" in the baja module (thus o > screen operation), the random number generated is always 1. its just pretty > strange. if i run the module after logon (and a lot of screen activity has > occured), i always do get a random number... > > any ideas?I don't think the screen line has anything to do with it, but more likelytiming. Have you tried doing a small mswait before getting your random number?Or perhaps getting a few random numbers first (as Evan suggested).-Rob--- Synchronet Vertrauen Home of Synchronet [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
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Digital Man on Mon Jul 16 12:22:00 2001
RE: umm...BY: Digital Man to Hax0r on Sun Jul 15 2001 10:27 pm > I don't think the screen line has anything to do with it, but more likely > timing. Have you tried doing a small mswait before getting your random numb > Or perhaps getting a few random numbers first (as Evan suggested).i tried getting several random numbers in a row -- 5 to be precise, and all were zero. the baja code is fairly simple -- its pasted below. I just took my stock ANSWER.ASC file and replaced the logo/graphic/etc with this:(at)EXEC:ANSWER(at)then, ANSWER.BIN does this...# ANSWER.SRC/ANSWER.BIN# random logon screen for synchronetclsint x# seed x with a random number between the fixed rangerandom x 3compare x 0 if_equal pause_reset printfile "%zANSWER1.ANS" end_ifcompare x 1 if_equal pause_reset printfile "%zANSWER2.ANS" end_ifcompare x 2 if_equal pause_reset printfile "%zANSWER3.ANS" end_if--- Synchronet .. hax0r's palace .. you've just been hax0r'd ..
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Digital Man@VERT to
Hax0r on Mon Jul 16 12:03:08 2001
RE: umm...BY: Hax0r to Digital Man on Mon Jul 16 2001 07:22 pm > RE: umm... > BY: Digital Man to Hax0r on Sun Jul 15 2001 10:27 pm > > > I don't think the screen line has anything to do with it, but more likely > > timing. Have you tried doing a small mswait before getting your random nu > > Or perhaps getting a few random numbers first (as Evan suggested). > > i tried getting several random numbers in a row -- 5 to be precise, and all > were zero. the baja code is fairly simple -- its pasted below. I just took > my stock ANSWER.ASC file and replaced the logo/graphic/etc with this: > > (at)EXEC:ANSWER(at) > > then, ANSWER.BIN does this... > > # ANSWER.SRC/ANSWER.BIN > # random logon screen for synchronet > > cls > int x > > # seed x with a random number between the fixed range > > random x 3 > > compare x 0 > if_equal > pause_reset > printfile "%zANSWER1.ANS" > end_if > > compare x 1 > if_equal > pause_reset > printfile "%zANSWER2.ANS" > end_if > > compare x 2 > if_equal > pause_reset > printfile "%zANSWER3.ANS" > end_ifThere's definitely a problem with random numbers currently in v3.00 and it willbe fixed before the release of v3.10.In the mean-time, I'd suggest you use the current time to generate apseudo-random number. Example:# display answer0-3.ansint tstr fnametime t # get time (in seconds)and t 3 # just use lower 2 bitssprintf fname "%%zANSWER.%ld" tprintfile fname # display file-Rob--- Synchronet Vertrauen Home of Synchronet [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
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Digital Man on Mon Jul 16 16:16:00 2001
RE: umm...BY: Digital Man to Hax0r on Mon Jul 16 2001 07:03 pm > There's definitely a problem with random numbers currently in v3.00 and it > be fixed before the release of v3.10.heh.. glad that it just wasn't something i was doing -- has this been a known thing? i've used the random function before and it seemed to work ok... > # display answer0-3.ans > int t > str fname > time t # get time (in seconds) > and t 3 # just use lower 2 bits > sprintf fname "%%zANSWER.%ld" t > printfile fname # display filethats a lot more elegant than my solution anyways... thanks for the tip!--- Synchronet .. hax0r's palace .. you've just been hax0r'd ..
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Digital Man@VERT to
Hax0r on Tue Jul 17 05:41:17 2001
RE: umm...BY: Hax0r to Digital Man on Mon Jul 16 2001 11:16 pm > > There's definitely a problem with random numbers currently in v3.00 and i > > be fixed before the release of v3.10. > > heh.. glad that it just wasn't something i was doing -- has this been a know > thing? Nope, you're the first to discover/report it. > i've used the random function before and it seemed to work ok...It works in the sense, that it produces pseudo-random numbers. The problem isthat it produces the SAME numbers in the SAME order for every login. This hasbeen fixed in v3.10 (each thread has to seed the random number generator). > > > # display answer0-3.ans > > int t > > str fname > > time t # get time (in seconds) > > and t 3 # just use lower 2 bits > > sprintf fname "%%zANSWER.%ld" t > > printfile fname # display file > > thats a lot more elegant than my solution anyways... thanks for the tip!No problem. Thanks for the bug report.-Rob--- Synchronet Vertrauen Home of Synchronet [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net