It would be something like this.ããThe email address that you provided us was : ptaylor2@cox.rr.comããIs this correct [Yes or No}ããThe program will generate a new password using the str npããcopy ae _useron.netmailããPrograms sends out the email message to the internet.ããCan you please give me a example on how I can do this?ãããIs there any way to include the users password in the body of the email ãmessage?ããThank youãTerminatorãã---ã þ MM 1.0 þ Unregistered þ MailMaker - Your Windows offline reader!ã þ Synchronet þ Synchronet -> Chatfree BBS bbs.chatfree.orgã

RE: I need your help please??ãBY: Terminator to ALL on Wed Aug 18 2010 11:44 amãã > The email address that you provided us was : ptaylor2@cox.rr.comã > Is this correct [Yes or No}ã > The program will generate a new password using the str npã > copy ae _useron.netmailã > Programs sends out the email message to the internet.ããThis all seems very familiar to me. Have you seen or heard of TELVAL?ãã > Can you please give me a example on how I can do this?ããI'm pretty sure I already have. Other than maybe the password generation whichãis pretty straight-forward in any language.ãã > Is there any way to include the users password in the body of the emailã > message?ããSure, but why would you possibly want to do this? Then you are essentiallyãgiving the users password to EVERYBODY, in plain text. Not a good idea.ããPGãã---ã þ Synchronet þ WasteLand BBS þ telnet://wasteland.darktech.org ã

RE: I need your help please??ãBY: Terminator to ALL on Wed Aug 18 2010 11:44 amãã > It would be something like this.ã > ã > The email address that you provided us was : ptaylor2@cox.rr.comã > ã > Is this correct [Yes or No}ã > ã > The program will generate a new password using the str npã > ã > copy ae _useron.netmailã > ã > Programs sends out the email message to the internet.ã > ã > Can you please give me a example on how I can do this?ããIt shouldn't be too hard with the new BAJA functions to open a connection toãyour own SMTP server and just have a simple dialogue to generate an outgoingãe-mail. Someone with a more fundamental understanding of thre new functionsãplease confirm?ãã > Is there any way to include the users password in the body of the emailã > message?ããIf you have it in a string-var named "np" you would just printf() it to theãSMTP server as a part of the machine-generated e-mail. ããEven if you can't or don't want to have a r/t dialogue with the SMTP server youãcould dump the text of the message to disk and then use standard tools to sendãit at a later time.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

RE: I need your help please??ãBY: PistolGrip to Terminator on Sun Aug 19 2001 07:22 pmãã > > Is there any way to include the users password in the body of the emailã > > message?ã > ã > Sure, but why would you possibly want to do this? Then you are essentiallyã > giving the users password to EVERYBODY, in plain text. Not a good idea.ããI think the idea is that when B1ff logs on and initiates a password-change, theãpassword is sent to his e-mail address rather than sent back up the Telnetãconnection. Why, I don't know, presumably to confirm that the e-mail addressãis not bogus. IOW, if your e-mail address is bogus you can't get a PWãtherefore you can't get on.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

RE: I need your help please??ãBY: PistolGrip to Terminator on Sun Aug 19 2001 07:22 pmãã > RE: I need your help please??ã > BY: Terminator to ALL on Wed Aug 18 2010 11:44 amã > ã > > The email address that you provided us was : ptaylor2@cox.rr.comã > > Is this correct [Yes or No}ã > > The program will generate a new password using the str npã > > copy ae _useron.netmailã > > Programs sends out the email message to the internet.ã > ã > This all seems very familiar to me. Have you seen or heard of TELVAL?ã > ã > > Can you please give me a example on how I can do this?ã > ã > I'm pretty sure I already have. Other than maybe the password generation whã > is pretty straight-forward in any language.ã > ã > > Is there any way to include the users password in the body of the emailã > > message?ã > ã > Sure, but why would you possibly want to do this? Then you are essentiallyã > giving the users password to EVERYBODY, in plain text. Not a good idea.ã > ã > PGã > ãhe obviously wants to send the user the e-mail with the cbv password,ãand a copy of the user's pw.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

RE: I need your help please??ãBY: PistolGrip to Terminator on Sun Aug 19 2001 19:22:00ãã > RE: I need your help please??ã > BY: Terminator to ALL on Wed Aug 18 2010 11:44 amã > ã > > The email address that you provided us was : ptaylor2@cox.rr.comã > > Is this correct [Yes or No}ã > > The program will generate a new password using the str npã > > copy ae _useron.netmailã > > Programs sends out the email message to the internet.ã > ã > This all seems very familiar to me. Have you seen or heard of TELVAL?ã > ã > > Can you please give me a example on how I can do this?ã > ã > I'm pretty sure I already have. Other than maybe the password generation whã > is pretty straight-forward in any language.ã > ã > > Is there any way to include the users password in the body of the emailã > > message?ã > ã > Sure, but why would you possibly want to do this? Then you are essentiallyã > giving the users password to EVERYBODY, in plain text. Not a good idea.ã > ã > PGããSomeone told me that your the programmer of telnet verify and that it wasãwritten using baja. I am in the progress of writting the same utility, but Iãam going to use my program so the users can run it every 90 days to verify thatãthere email address has not changed.ããI am also adding some additional features that telnet verify does not support. ãIf you could please tell me how you included the password in the body of theãemail message that would help me out a lot?ããThank youãTerminatorããã---ã þ Synchronet þ Synchronet -> Chatfree BBS bbs.chatfree.orgã

RE: I need your help please??ãBY: Amcleod to Terminator on Sun Aug 19 2001 18:50:00ãã > If you have it in a string-var named "np" you would just printf() it to theã > SMTP server as a part of the machine-generated e-mail. ã > ã > Even if you can't or don't want to have a r/t dialogue with the SMTP server ã > could dump the text of the message to disk and then use standard tools to seã > it at a later time.ã ããCould you please give me example of how its done using baja and printf() to theãsmtp server as part of the message as its being sent to the smtp server?ããThank youãTerminatorããã---ã þ Synchronet þ Synchronet -> Chatfree BBS bbs.chatfree.orgã

RE: I need your help please??ãBY: Jas Hud to PistolGrip on Mon Aug 20 2001 09:54:00ãã > > > The email address that you provided us was : ptaylor2@cox.rr.comã > > > Is this correct [Yes or No}ã > > > The program will generate a new password using the str npã > > > copy ae _useron.netmailã > > > Programs sends out the email message to the internet.ã > > Sure, but why would you possibly want to do this? Then you are essentialã > > giving the users password to EVERYBODY, in plain text. Not a good idea.ã > > ã > > PGã > > ã > he obviously wants to send the user the e-mail with the cbv password,ã > and a copy of the user's pw.ãããFolkes I am not a new kid on the block with running a public bulletin boardãsystem. Running a bbs is spose to be hobby and not a job, but some nucklesãheads that call your bbs like to start some problems.ããHere is a good example:ããAbout 5 years ago when I was running my bbs from the telephone line I had someãproblem children that decided to call my bbs and post some nasty messages in aãfew of my Fido Net National Echoes. A few days later I found out someone filedãa Fido Net Policy4 violation against me. ããThe end result was that I had to send out a few messages telling the sysop,ãthere nec that I was sorry that my one users decided to act up. So I spent aãfew days working on resolving this issue when I had some more important stuffãthat needed more urgent attention. The user account was terminated, and theãindividuals where told that they where not welcome back on my bbs. There phoneãnumber was blocked using one of the phone company services that I had on theãline during that time period.ããThe bbs has been running for over 2 weeks and the users do not even ready theãrules posted in the logon and when the new user file is displayed on thereãscreen. ããI will hold the users accountable when they screw up. I am working on writtingãa program that will force them to read the rules or they access level will beãreduced to level 0 and they will be disconnected from the bbs. This is sposeãto be hobby, so I am not going to let it stress me out this time!ããFor the information that I request about how to include the users new generatedãpassword in the body of a email messages. I have decided that this is one ofãthe best methodes because the program that I am writting will force the usersãto verify that they have not changed there email account during a 90 dayãperiod. ããBesides being on Fidonet I also got dov.net and the internet newsgroups to dealãwith. So I will try make modifications to my bbs to prevent the problems beforeãthey happen.ããThank youãTerminatorããã---ã þ Synchronet þ Synchronet -> Chatfree BBS bbs.chatfree.orgã

RE: I need your help please??ãBY: Terminator to Amcleod on Mon Aug 20 2001 11:06 amãã > > If you have it in a string-var named "np" you would just printf() it to tã > > SMTP server as a part of the machine-generated e-mail.ã > ã > Could you please give me example of how its done using baja and printf() to ã > smtp server as part of the message as its being sent to the smtp server?ããActually, you wouldãã SPRINTF str "Your new password is: %s please remember it!\n" npã SOCKET_WRITE sock strããat te appropriate part in your dialogue with the SMTP server. I posted aãcomplete -- but VERY rough demo earlier today. (Of how to send e-mail, notãspecifically about new passwords.)ããã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

RE: I need your help please??ãBY: Terminator to PistolGrip on Mon Aug 20 2001 11:04 amãã > > > Is there any way to include the users password in the body of the emaiã > > > message?ã > >ã > > Sure, but why would you possibly want to do this? Then you are essentialã > > giving the users password to EVERYBODY, in plain text. Not a good idea.ãã > Someone told me that your the programmer of telnet verify and that it wasã > written using baja. I am in the progress of writting the same utility, but ã > am going to use my program so the users can run it every 90 days to verify tã > there email address has not changed.ãã > I am also adding some additional features that telnet verify does not supporã > If you could please tell me how you included the password in the body of theã > email message that would help me out a lot?ããI'm not 100% sure of what 'password' you are wanting to include? Do you wantãto use the users' BBS password? Or do you mean a unique code or 'password'ãsent to each user?ããI don't exactly understand why you are asking this question? If you alreadyãknow how to send an email to a user, then why can't you just include theãinformation in the email body?ããYou would just need to copy or generate these codes some how, pput them intoãvariables and then print them to the email body section of your send mailãroutine. In Telval, I just generate a code based upon some of the USER.DATãfields and then send that to users in the body of the email.ããIf you can clarify your question a little better I might be able to helpãfurther.ããPGãã---ã þ Synchronet þ WasteLand BBS þ telnet://wasteland.darktech.org ã

RE: I need your help please??ãBY: PistolGrip to Terminator on Tue Aug 21 2001 01:42 amããOkay, best I can understand, you want to send a message with a new p/w every 90ãdays, right? The pain there, actually won't be sending the mail, as much asãchanging the password. First off: I know nothing of BAJA (yet). but what youãneed to do is have a prog go through the entire user list and send a random p/wãto their email AND change the p/w, or set it as a log on event that triggers atãexpire time or something like that. As I said, the changeing the p/w will beãthe hard part.. especially if you use a logon script, as that would give themãthe option to change the p/w. You could use a small database of Name, P/W thatãa program will verify them at log on, as well... Hmm... Wel, it loks like Iãneed to learn a new language :-)ããGood Luck,ãTalus01ããã---ã þ Synchronet þ The Conclave of Wizards BBS (conclave.dyndns.org)ã

RE: I need your help please??ãBY: Talus01 to Terminator on Tue Aug 21 2001 08:34 amãã > RE: I need your help please??ã > BY: PistolGrip to Terminator on Tue Aug 21 2001 01:42 amã > ã > Okay, best I can understand, you want to send a message with a new p/w everyã > days, right? The pain there, actually won't be sending the mail, as much asã > changing the password. First off: I know nothing of BAJA (yet). but what youã > need to do is have a prog go through the entire user list and send a random ã > to their email AND change the p/w, or set it as a log on event that triggersã > expire time or something like that. As I said, the changeing the p/w will beã > the hard part.. especially if you use a logon script, as that would give theã > the option to change the p/w. You could use a small database of Name, P/W thã > a program will verify them at log on, as well... Hmm... Wel, it loks like Iã > need to learn a new language :-)ã > ã > Good Luck,ã > Talus01ã > ã > ãthat all seems like more trouble than it's worth.ãbut it would be easy to change the pw when the user is online.ãjust code a random pw gen, then write it into the online users pw.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

RE: I need your help please??ãBY: Terminator to Jas Hud on Mon Aug 20 2001 03:47 pmãã > Folkes I am not a new kid on the block with running a public bulletin boardã > system. Running a bbs is spose to be hobby and not a job, but some nucklesã > heads that call your bbs like to start some problems.ã > ããof course, and you should EXPECT IT.ãbut putting in so many walls, making it such a hassle to get people to logon...ãgoing through the trouble of making people read rules...yadda yadda.ã.....WILL STOP PEOPLE FROM CAUSING PROBLEMS.. but not the way you think:ãyour bbs will be such a pain in the ass that people will not CALL IT.ãeven the good users that dont cause problems.ããand regarding fidonet: THAT IS THE WAY CRAPPY FIDONET IS!ãyou have to adhere to these VAGUE rules.ãpeople have even been restricted from fidonet , just because theyãrepeditly request help with setting it up, and cannot benefit fromãthe snide comments of fidonet users.ããso, if you want to put up road blocks, your bbs will be as busyãas a blocked road.ãif people want to cause trouble they will. you just block their IP when itãhappens, that's all you can really do.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Alcoholiday - The kinder, gentler buzz! alcoholiday.thebbs.orgã

RE: I need your help please??ãBY: Jas Hud to Talus01 on Thu Aug 23 2001 08:50 amããTHe problem there, is that the user can then change the p/w... unless it's aãlog off script? Hmm.. maybe...?ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ The Conclave of Wizards BBS (conclave.dyndns.org)ã