ã So I'm reading the Synchronet wiki and it says Synchronet was soldãcommercially from 1992-1996. I remember seeing the ad for Synchronet BBS in PCãmag and other computer mags. What I want to know is was it available in anyãcomputer stores in the US during those commercial years.? Did it ever reach theãbig boy COMP_USA? I had a lot of pops and mom computer stores here on LongãIsland but I wasn't looking to run a BBS on a what we called an IBM compatableãback then. I started with the C64 and from there went to the Amiga. I'm curiousãif I ever saw Synchronet BBS on the shelf at my local store or even RadioãShack. Radio Shack was a big seller of IBM compats in those years. They wereãwaay out of my price range. LOL!ãã HusTlerã ã |07 HusTler ã ãã... Just because everything is different doesn't mean anything has changed.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ thePharcyde_ telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin)ã

Re: Commercial Synchronetã By: HusTler to Digitalman on Tue Sep 20 2022 08:55 pmãã > So I'm reading the Synchronet wiki and it says Synchronet was soldã > commercially from 1992-1996. I remember seeing the ad for Synchronet BBS inã > PC mag and other computer mags.ããPC Magazine was out of my budget, but yeah, we advertised in:ã- Boardwatchã- BBS Callers Digest (I think it was AKA BBS Magazine at one point)ã- Online Accessã- Sysop News and World Reportã- and maybe one or two other even smaller mags I'm forgettingãã > What I want to know is was it available inã > any computer stores in the US during those commercial years.?ããNot really. Although we had ads with a shrink-wrapped box image, we never actually sold the software in a shrink-wrapped box (e.g. in a retail store).ãã > Did it ever reach the big boy COMP_USA?ããMaybe the demo version was included in a CD-ROM that was sold there? That'd be the closest thing.ãã > I had a lot of pops and mom computer stores hereã > on Long Island but I wasn't looking to run a BBS on a what we called an IBMã > compatable back then. I started with the C64 and from there went to theã > Amiga. I'm curious if I ever saw Synchronet BBS on the shelf at my localã > store or even Radio Shack. Radio Shack was a big seller of IBM compats inã > those years. They were waay out of my price range. LOL!ããYeah, mine too. I also built my own PCs out of wholesale parts. Now, I do buy HPs or Dells or <gasp> Microsoft computers, especially since Fry's closed down. :-(ã-- ã digital man (rob)ããSynchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #8:ãBinkP = BinkD ProtocolãNorco, CA WX: 67.0øF, 81.0% humidity, 6 mph SW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Re: Commercial Synchronetã By: HusTler to Digitalman on Tue Sep 20 2022 08:55 pmãã >ã > So I'm reading the Synchronet wiki and it says Synchronet was soldã > commercially from 1992-1996. I remember seeing the ad for Synchronet BBS inã > PC mag and other computer mags. What I want to know is was it available inã > any computer stores in the US during those commercial years.? Did it everã > reach the big boy COMP_USA? I had a lot of pops and mom computer stores hereã > on Long Island but I wasn't looking to run a BBS on a what we called an IBMã > compatable back then. I started with the C64 and from there went to theã > Amiga. I'm curious if I ever saw Synchronet BBS on the shelf at my localã > store or even Radio Shack. Radio Shack was a big seller of IBM compats inã > those years. They were waay out of my price range. LOL!ã >ãããonly bbs software i ever saw in a store was wildcat! and it was in software ect. never sold.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Re: Commercial Synchronetã By: Digital Man to HusTler on Tue Sep 20 2022 09:41 pmãã > PC Magazine was out of my budget, but yeah, we advertised in:ã > - Boardwatchã > - BBS Callers Digest (I think it was AKA BBS Magazine at one point)ã > - Online Accessã > - Sysop News and World Reportã > - and maybe one or two other even smaller mags I'm forgettingãã And if I called the support line I would have spoken to you? I rememberãtalking to the guy from Searchlight. When I had trouble setting up Fidonet heãwould tell me he didn't support it but for a $100 fee he would. Then the guysãfrom Fidonet wanted money. Geez when I think back I was really taken for aãride. I'm wondering if that's why stores didn't carry a lot of BBS software.ãThey didn't want the headache of people returning the software they couldn'tãget to work??ã ã |07 HusTlerãã---ã þ Synchronet þ thePharcyde_ telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin)ã

Re: Commercial Synchronetã By: Digital Man to HusTler on Tue Sep 20 2022 09:41 pmãã DM> Yeah, mine too. I also built my own PCs out of wholesale parts. Now, I doã DM> buy HPs or Dells or <gasp> Microsoft computers, especially since Fry'sã DM> closed down. :-(ããI'm currently working at a software consulting company, and a couple years ago, I was doing work for a company on-site and saw that they had some Microsoft Surface Studio all-in-one PCs, and I thought they looked like fairly nice machines. They're fairly expensive though..ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã

Re: Commercial Synchronetã By: MRO to HusTler on Tue Sep 20 2022 11:49 pmãã MR> only bbs software i ever saw in a store was wildcat! and it was inã MR> software ect. never sold.ããI saw boxed copies of Wildcat at my local Egghead Software in the mid 90s.ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã

Re: Commercial Synchronetã By: HusTler to Digital Man on Wed Sep 21 2022 07:39 amãã > Re: Commercial Synchronetã > By: Digital Man to HusTler on Tue Sep 20 2022 09:41 pmã >ã > > PC Magazine was out of my budget, but yeah, we advertised in:ã > > - Boardwatchã > > - BBS Callers Digest (I think it was AKA BBS Magazine at one point)ã > > - Online Accessã > > - Sysop News and World Reportã > > - and maybe one or two other even smaller mags I'm forgettingã >ã > And if I called the support line I would have spoken to you?ããPossibly. I did have employees 1993-95 that usually answered the phone and Allen (King Drafus) handled most of the voice support questions in the later years (so I could work on getting the damned OS/2 version released).ãã > I rememberã > talking to the guy from Searchlight. When I had trouble setting up Fidonetã > he would tell me he didn't support it but for a $100 fee he would.ããAh, I recall Frank being a really nice guy when I met it at ONE BBSCON.ãã > Then the guys from Fidonet wanted money.ããYup, I remember paying $5 a month I think it was, for "cost recovery" (FidoNet Zone 1, net 103). And then I paid Planet Connect for a KU-band satellite feed (don't remember how much, but more).ãã > Geez when I think back I was really takenã > for a ride. I'm wondering if that's why stores didn't carry a lot of BBSã > software. They didn't want the headache of people returning the softwareã > they couldn't get to work??ããI imagine that there were quite a few copies of PCBoard, Wildcat, TBBS, etc. sold in retail stores. A lot of those copies probably just sat on shelves too. But running a BBS fully (e.g. FidoNet-working, door games, CD-ROMs, etc.) required some passion and dedication, which is often in short-supply among the software-buying public. :-)ã-- ã digital man (rob)ããSling Blade quote #26:ãKarl: kaiser blade, ax handle with long blade on it shaped kinda like a banana.ãNorco, CA WX: 71.4øF, 58.0% humidity, 3 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Re: Commercial Synchronetã By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Wed Sep 21 2022 08:22 amãã > Re: Commercial Synchronetã > By: Digital Man to HusTler on Tue Sep 20 2022 09:41 pmã >ã > DM> Yeah, mine too. I also built my own PCs out of wholesale parts. Now, Iã > DM> do buy HPs or Dells or <gasp> Microsoft computers, especially sinceã > DM> Fry's closed down. :-(ã >ã > I'm currently working at a software consulting company, and a couple yearsã > ago, I was doing work for a company on-site and saw that they had someã > Microsoft Surface Studio all-in-one PCs, and I thought they looked likeã > fairly nice machines. They're fairly expensive though..ããThe Microsoft Surface Pros were highly-recommended to me for students and now each of my daughters has one and they swear buy them for college school work. They use the stylus and tablet/rotation/touch features much more than I would have predicted. I think the next closest thing would be an iPad Pro, but my kids still need/use traditional Windows software, so the Surface Pros were the right buy. No regrets. The Surface all-in-ones do look like a nice iMac alternative.ã-- ã digital man (rob)ããRush quote #82:ãThe clouds prepare for battle in the dark and brooding silenceãNorco, CA WX: 71.4øF, 58.0% humidity, 3 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Re: Commercial Synchronetã By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Wed Sep 21 2022 10:58 amãã DM> The Microsoft Surface Pros were highly-recommended to me for students andã DM> now each of my daughters has one and they swear buy them for collegeã DM> school work. They use the stylus and tablet/rotation/touch features muchã DM> more than I would have predicted. I think the next closest thing would beã DM> an iPad Pro, but my kids still need/use traditional Windows software, soã DM> the Surface Pros were the right buy. No regrets.ããI had a Surface Pro years ago, and I think it was a good tablet, but the thing I didn't like about it was that its keyboard attachment wasn't rigid like a laptop, so it didn't stay in position when it's picked up and moved. I felt like that became more of an annoyance over time. I didn't really use the stylus though. Maybe I wasn't the target market for that device..ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã

Re: Commercial Synchronetã By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Wed Sep 21 2022 11:34 amãã > Re: Commercial Synchronetã > By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Wed Sep 21 2022 10:58 amã >ã > DM> The Microsoft Surface Pros were highly-recommended to me for studentsã > DM> and now each of my daughters has one and they swear buy them forã > DM> college school work. They use the stylus and tablet/rotation/touchã > DM> features much more than I would have predicted. I think the nextã > DM> closest thing would be an iPad Pro, but my kids still need/useã > DM> traditional Windows software, so the Surface Pros were the right buy.ã > DM> No regrets.ã >ã > I had a Surface Pro years ago, and I think it was a good tablet, but theã > thing I didn't like about it was that its keyboard attachment wasn't rigidã > like a laptop, so it didn't stay in position when it's picked up and moved.ã > I felt like that became more of an annoyance over time. I didn't really useã > the stylus though. Maybe I wasn't the target market for that device..ããAgreed. Microsoft also makes a Surface Laptop (with traditional/rigid keyboard), that looks pretty nice/slim, but I/we haven't owned one. For laptops, I've had really good luck with Lenovos.ã-- ã digital man (rob)ããBreaking Bad quote #37:ãonly the very best... with just a right amount of dirty. - SaulãNorco, CA WX: 80.2øF, 36.0% humidity, 5 mph ESE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Re: Commercial Synchronetã By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Wed Sep 21 2022 01:48 pmãã DM> Agreed. Microsoft also makes a Surface Laptop (with traditional/rigidã DM> keyboard), that looks pretty nice/slim, but I/we haven't owned one. Forã DM> laptops, I've had really good luck with Lenovos.ããI tend to like Lenovo as well. I sold that Surface Pro tablet I had and ended up buying a Lenovo laptop afterward (which I still use off and on).ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã

Digital Man wrote to Nightfox <=-ãã > I had a Surface Pro years ago, and I think it was a good tablet, but theã > thing I didn't like about it was that its keyboard attachment wasn't rigidã > like a laptop, so it didn't stay in position when it's picked up and moved.ã > I felt like that became more of an annoyance over time. I didn't really useã > the stylus though. Maybe I wasn't the target market for that device..ãã DM> Agreed. Microsoft also makes a Surface Laptop (withã DM> traditional/rigid keyboard), that looks pretty nice/slim, butã DM> I/we haven't owned one. For laptops, I've had really good luckã DM> with Lenovos.ããHave never used a Surface, but agree on the Lenovo. Typing this from my ãdaily driver ThinkPad T510 that is around 8 years old but still solid. ãI've added memory and an SSD to it and seriously don't think I'll ever ãuse anything *other* than a Lenovo again. I'm thinking maybe Santa is ãgoing to bring me a new one this year. :-)ãããã... If not for the last minute, nothing would get done.ã--- MultiMail/Linux v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FLã

Re: Commercial Synchronetã By: HusTler to Digital Man on Wed Sep 21 2022 07:39 amãã >ã > And if I called the support line I would have spoken to you? I rememberã > talking to the guy from Searchlight. When I had trouble setting up Fidonetã > he would tell me he didn't support it but for a $100 fee he would. Then theããwell if he's taking time out of his day, whats wrong if naming his price? you could always say no.ãã > guys from Fidonet wanted money. Geez when I think back I was really takenã > for a ride. I'm wondering if that's why stores didn't carry a lot of BBSããyou mean that cost recovery thing? CRP i'm not sure if that ever worked well, or if people were profitting from it. maybe in some areas they it worked, some it didnt.ããwhy didnt stores carry bbs software? because bbses suck.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Re: Commercial Synchronetã By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Wed Sep 21 2022 11:34 amãã > Re: Commercial Synchronetã > By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Wed Sep 21 2022 10:58 amã > ã > DM> The Microsoft Surface Pros were highly-recommended to me for students aã > DM> now each of my daughters has one and they swear buy them for collegeã > DM> school work. They use the stylus and tablet/rotation/touch features mucã > DM> more than I would have predicted. I think the next closest thing would ã > DM> an iPad Pro, but my kids still need/use traditional Windows software, sã > DM> the Surface Pros were the right buy. No regrets.ã > ã > I had a Surface Pro years ago, and I think it was a good tablet, but the thiã > of an annoyance over time. I didn't really use the stylus though. Maybe I ã > ã > Nightfoxã > ãAt a previous jobsite we deployed Surfaces with a protective rubberizedãsleeve with the keyboard integrated to act as a screen cover. It didn't comeãloose at all.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ The Cave BBS - Since 1992 - cavebbs.homeip.netã

Re: Commercial Synchronetã By: Digital Man to HusTler on Wed Sep 21 2022 10:54 amãã > Ah, I recall Frank being a really nice guy when I met it at ONE BBSCON.ãã He was. I just needed someone to help me out as I did not understand theãwhole Fidonet thing. Searchlight came with preset Fidonet message areas. AfterãI found someone to help me I purchased a commercial mailer (D,Bridge) with anãexcellent manual and I got things working. I was not expecting the extra cost.ãThe advertisement for Searchlight read: "Everything you need to run your ownãBulletin Board System". At the time D,Bridge was $120.00. So yea Frank was niceãbut I can get anyone to give me support if I pay them. ;-)ã ã |07 HusTler ã ãã... A failure will not appear till a unit has passed final inspection.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ thePharcyde_ telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin)ã

Re: Commercial Synchronetã By: MRO to HusTler on Wed Sep 21 2022 09:24 pmãã > you mean that cost recovery thing? CRP i'm not sure if that ever worked wellã > or if people were profitting from it. maybe in some areas they it worked, soã > it didnt. ã > why didnt stores carry bbs software? because bbses suck.ãã I'll tell you what. I've met a lot of friends that I still keep in touchãwith. I never would have met them if I didn't run a BBS. So yea BBS's suck whenãthey don't work but the friendships gained fixing them is priceless in myãopinion.ã ã |07 HusTlerãã---ã þ Synchronet þ thePharcyde_ telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin)ã

On 21 Sep 2022, Digital Man said the following...ã ã DM> The Microsoft Surface Pros were highly-recommended to me for studentsã DM> and now each of my daughters has one and they swear buy them for collegeã DM> school work. They use the stylus and tablet/rotation/touch features muchããnot that surprising considering Microsoft is banking their whole OS future on the concept. bit of a shame they didn't buy lenovo instead.. seems like they're just making up slowly for lost time.ãã... Light year: 1/3 less calories than your regular yearãã--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/25 (Windows/32)ã * Origin: cold fusion - cfbbs.net - grand rapids, miã

Re: Commercial Synchronetã By: Moondog to Nightfox on Wed Sep 21 2022 11:06 pmãã >> I had a Surface Pro years ago, and I think it was a good tablet, butã >> the thi of an annoyance over time. I didn't really use the stylusã >> though. Maybe I ãã Mo> At a previous jobsite we deployed Surfaces with a protective rubberizedã Mo> sleeve with the keyboard integrated to act as a screen cover. It didn'tã Mo> come loose at all.ããIt's not that the keyboard came loose.. It was that the keyboard didn't stay in position when moved. If you picked it up, the keyboard would flop down, so you had to also hold the keyboard when moving it, or fold it up, and then put it back in place after you move it.ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã

Re: Re: Commercial Synchronetã By: fusion to Digital Man on Thu Sep 22 2022 11:36 amãã fu> not that surprising considering Microsoft is banking their whole OS futureã fu> on the concept. bit of a shame they didn't buy lenovo instead.. seems likeã fu> they're just making up slowly for lost time. ããWas Lenovo considering selling their PC business?ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã

Re: Commercial Synchronetã By: HusTler to Digital Man on Thu Sep 22 2022 07:41 amãã > Re: Commercial Synchronetã > By: Digital Man to HusTler on Wed Sep 21 2022 10:54 amã >ã > > Ah, I recall Frank being a really nice guy when I met it at ONE BBSCON.ã >ã > He was. I just needed someone to help me out as I did not understand theã > whole Fidonet thing. Searchlight came with preset Fidonet message areas.ã > After I found someone to help me I purchased a commercial mailer (D,Bridge)ã > with an excellent manual and I got things working. I was not expecting theã > extra cost. The advertisement for Searchlight read: "Everything you need toã > run your own Bulletin Board System". At the time D,Bridge was $120.00. Soã > yea Frank was nice but I can get anyone to give me support if I pay them.ã > ;-)ã >ããyou can expect what you want, but you have to do your homework.ãi knew having fidonet would require extra work and software.ããi wouldn't use d'bridge though. EWWWWããi use irex and radius. much better.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Re: Commercial Synchronetã By: HusTler to MRO on Thu Sep 22 2022 07:53 amãã > > well or if people were profitting from it. maybe in some areas they itã > > worked, so it didnt.ã > > why didnt stores carry bbs software? because bbses suck.ã >ã > I'll tell you what. I've met a lot of friends that I still keep in touchã > with. I never would have met them if I didn't run a BBS. So yea BBS's suckã > when they don't work but the friendships gained fixing them is priceless inã > my opinion.ããthat was almost 30 years ago. those days are over.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Re: Commercial Synchronetã By: Nightfox to Moondog on Thu Sep 22 2022 09:30 amãã >ã > It's not that the keyboard came loose.. It was that the keyboard didn'tã > stay in position when moved. If you picked it up, the keyboard would flopã > down, so you had to also hold the keyboard when moving it, or fold it up,ã > and then put it back in place after you move it.ã >ããso how is this a problem.ãthat's how it was designed.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Re: Re: Commercial Synchronetã By: Nightfox to fusion on Thu Sep 22 2022 09:36 amãã > Re: Re: Commercial Synchronetã > By: fusion to Digital Man on Thu Sep 22 2022 11:36 amã > ã > fu> not that surprising considering Microsoft is banking their whole OS futã > fu> on the concept. bit of a shame they didn't buy lenovo instead.. seems lã > fu> they're just making up slowly for lost time.ã > ã > Was Lenovo considering selling their PC business?ã > ã > Nightfoxã > ããI doubt Lenovo is selling anything. They picked up IBM's Personal ComputingãDivision in 2005. They've created a good following since then.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ The Cave BBS - Since 1992 - cavebbs.homeip.netã

Re: Re: Commercial Synchronetã By: Moondog to Nightfox on Thu Sep 22 2022 04:29 pmãã >ã > > Was Lenovo considering selling their PC business?ã >ã > > Nightfoxã >ã >ã > I doubt Lenovo is selling anything. They picked up IBM's Personal Computingã > Division in 2005. They've created a good following since then.ããthat's what you find when you google them now.ããi remember like 5-6 years ago there was talk of them falling apart.ãi can't find it, but i remember it.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Re: Commercial Synchronetã By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Sep 22 2022 03:55 pmãã >> It's not that the keyboard came loose.. It was that the keyboardã >> didn't stay in position when moved. If you picked it up, the keyboardã >> would flop down, so you had to also hold the keyboard when moving it,ã >> or fold it up, and then put it back in place after you move it.ãã MR> so how is this a problem.ã MR> that's how it was designed.ããNot much of a problem, just a little more annoying to move than a laptop. Laptop keyboards/monitors don't flop around when you move them.ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã

Re: Commercial Synchronetã By: Nightfox to MRO on Thu Sep 22 2022 18:59:09ãã >>> didn't stay in position when moved. If you picked it up, the keyboardã >>> would flop down, so you had to also hold the keyboard when moving it,ã >>> or fold it up, and then put it back in place after you move it.ããyea that would suck ass... although in these days of 3d printers, you might be able to print something that stops it :Dãã Ni> Not much of a problem, just a little more annoying to move than a laptop. Laptop keyboards/monitors don't flop around whenã Ni> you move them.ããoh i dunno about that.. I have a couple of dell laptops here with overworked hinges where the screen doesnt stay in one position without a book behind it lolããregardsã---ããCharles BlackburnãThe F.B.O BBS 21:1/221 618:250/36ãbbs.thefbo.us IPV4/V6ãDOVE-Net FSX-Net MicroNET USENETã---ã þ Synchronet þ The FBO BBS - bbs.thefbo.us - A place for aviation fun....ã

Re: Commercial Synchronetã By: MRO to HusTler on Thu Sep 22 2022 03:49 pmãã > you can expect what you want, but you have to do your homework.ã > i knew having fidonet would require extra work and software.ãã > i wouldn't use d'bridge though. EWWWWãã > i use irex and radius. much better.ãã D'Bridge was what Searchlight support recommended. I don't remember if Irex orãRadius was free or paid back then. Maybe there were some shareware mailers?ãBack then everyone was on the software ban wagon looking to make a killing. Iãwas in the Internet side of things working support for an ISP. Once I startingãusing the net I knew the BBS world would be a thing of the past. ftp and ircãtook the world by storm. lolã ã |07 HusTlerãã---ã þ Synchronet þ thePharcyde_ telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin)ã

Re: Commercial Synchronetã By: HusTler to MRO on Fri Sep 23 2022 10:19 amãã Hu> D'Bridge was what Searchlight support recommended. I don't remember ifã Hu> Irex or Radius was free or paid back then. Maybe there were some sharewareã Hu> mailers?ããIn the 90s, I used to use FrontDoor for my FTN mailer, which seemed like a good one. I think it was shareware. A lot of RemoteAccess BBSes seemed to use FrontDoor, but I imagine it would work for any DOS-based BBS software.ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã

Re: Commercial Synchronetã By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Sep 22 2022 03:55 pmãã > Re: Commercial Synchronetã > By: Nightfox to Moondog on Thu Sep 22 2022 09:30 amã > ã > >ã > > It's not that the keyboard came loose.. It was that the keyboard didn'tã > > stay in position when moved. If you picked it up, the keyboard would floã > > down, so you had to also hold the keyboard when moving it, or fold it up,ã > > and then put it back in place after you move it.ã > >ã > ã > so how is this a problem.ã > that's how it was designed.ããI think he wants some form of tension, like from a spring loaded hingeãassembly on a standard laptop. A Surface needs a prop or kickstand on theãback to hold up the display.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ The Cave BBS - Since 1992 - cavebbs.homeip.netã

Re: Commercial Synchronetã By: HusTler to MRO on Fri Sep 23 2022 10:19 amãã >ã > > i wouldn't use d'bridge though. EWWWWã >ã > > i use irex and radius. much better.ã >ã > D'Bridge was what Searchlight support recommended. I don't remember if Irexããthe only person i've ever heard recommend d'bridge is the author of the program.ãã > or Radius was free or paid back then. Maybe there were some sharewareã > mailers? Back then everyone was on the software ban wagon looking to make aã > killing. I was in the Internet side of things working support for an ISP.ã > Once I starting using the net I knew the BBS world would be a thing of theã > past. ftp and irc took the world by storm. lolã >ããi always liked irex. people said it had issues but those were for obscure versions like the linux beta versions.ããi think they were all shareware.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Re: Commercial Synchronetã By: Moondog to MRO on Fri Sep 23 2022 10:20 amãã > > so how is this a problem.ã > > that's how it was designed.ã >ã > I think he wants some form of tension, like from a spring loaded hingeã > assembly on a standard laptop. A Surface needs a prop or kickstand on theã > back to hold up the display.ããmy ex's father was at the house with us and he had a surface. I don't remember him having any issues. not sure if he had a special stand. it didn't look like it.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

D'Bridge was what Searchlight support recommended. I don't remember if Irex oã> Radius was free or paid back then. Maybe there were some shareware mailers?ããBinkleyTerm.ããã * SLMR 2.1a * Quark the Ferengi. Perot the Texan. Separated at birth?ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ CAPCITY2 * capcity2.synchro.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/Rlogin/HTTPã

Re: Commercial Synchronetã By: Nightfox to HusTler on Fri Sep 23 2022 09:04:34ãã Ni> In the 90s, I used to use FrontDoor for my FTN mailer, which seemed like a good one. I think it was shareware. A lot ofã Ni> RemoteAccess BBSes seemed to use FrontDoor, but I imagine it would work for any DOS-based BBS software.ããI used to run frontdoor on my ezycom and RA bbs' worked great and was pretty much compatible with everything out thereãããregardsã---ããCharles BlackburnãThe F.B.O BBS 21:1/221 618:250/36ãbbs.thefbo.us IPV4/V6ãDOVE-Net FSX-Net MicroNET USENETã---ã þ Synchronet þ The FBO BBS - bbs.thefbo.us - A place for aviation fun....ã

On 9/22/22 09:36, Nightfox wrote:

not that surprising considering Microsoft is banking their whole
OS future on the concept. bit of a shame they didn't buy lenovo
instead.. seems likethey're just making up slowly for lost time.

Was Lenovo considering selling their PC business?

IBM sold the PC segment to Lenovo, which afaik was doing most of the manufacturing anyways.
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Michael J. Ryan - tracker1@roughneckbbs.com
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On 9/23/22 16:21, MRO wrote:

so how is this a problem.
that's how it was designed.

I think he wants some form of tension, like from a spring loaded
hinge assembly on a standard laptop. A Surface needs a prop or
kickstand on the back to hold up the display.

my ex's father was at the house with us and he had a surface. I don't remember him having any issues. not sure if he had a special stand.
it didn't look like it.

There are Microsoft Surface tablets and laptop models... the tablets
have the plastic keyboard that attaches, some convertable models have a detaching tablet/display to a hard keyboard/stand and others have a
classic laptop layout.. varies by model.
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Re: Re: Commercial Synchronetã By: Tracker1 to MRO on Fri Sep 23 2022 09:54 pmãã >ã > There are Microsoft Surface tablets and laptop models... the tabletsã > have the plastic keyboard that attaches, some convertable models have aã > detaching tablet/display to a hard keyboard/stand and others have aã > classic laptop layout.. varies by model.ããcant remember it was years ago. it was a tablet with a keyboard.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Re: Re: Commercial Synchronetã By: Tracker1 to Nightfox on Fri Sep 23 2022 08:31 pmãã >>> not that surprising considering Microsoft is banking their wholeã >>> OS future on the concept. bit of a shame they didn't buy lenovoã >>> instead.. seems likethey're just making up slowly for lost time.ãã >> Was Lenovo considering selling their PC business?ãã Tr> IBM sold the PC segment to Lenovo, which afaik was doing most of the ã Tr> manufacturing anyways.ããI know IBM sold their PC division to Lenovo years ago. It was suggested Microsoft could have bought Lenovo, so it sounded like Lenovo may have decided to sell the business.ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã

Re: Re: Commercial Synchronetã By: Tracker1 to Nightfox on Fri Sep 23 2022 08:31 pmãã > On 9/22/22 09:36, Nightfox wrote:ã > >> not that surprising considering Microsoft is banking their wholeã > >> OS future on the concept. bit of a shame they didn't buy lenovoã > >> instead.. seems likethey're just making up slowly for lost time.ã > >ã > > Was Lenovo considering selling their PC business?ã > ã > IBM sold the PC segment to Lenovo, which afaik was doing most of theã > manufacturing anyways.ã > --ã > Michael J. Ryan - tracker1@roughneckbbs.comã > ããWhen I was working for ZDS, IBM consulted them to help design one of theãearly Thinkpad models. We were consulting with a company in China or Taiwanãthat was doing the assembly, then IBM's engineers took us out of the middleãand worked directly with the manufacturing firm. Since I was on the serviceãside, I didn't know the names of who assembled some our products. I'mãcurious if Lenovo's origin company was that manufacturer?ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ The Cave BBS - Since 1992 - cavebbs.homeip.netã

Re: Re: Commercial Synchronetã By: Tracker1 to MRO on Fri Sep 23 2022 09:54 pmãã > On 9/23/22 16:21, MRO wrote:ã > >>> so how is this a problem.ã > >>> that's how it was designed.ã > >>ã > >> I think he wants some form of tension, like from a spring loadedã > >> hinge assembly on a standard laptop. A Surface needs a prop orã > >> kickstand on the back to hold up the display.ã > >ã > > my ex's father was at the house with us and he had a surface. I don'tã > > remember him having any issues. not sure if he had a special stand.ã > > it didn't look like it.ã > ã > There are Microsoft Surface tablets and laptop models... the tabletsã > have the plastic keyboard that attaches, some convertable models have aã > detaching tablet/display to a hard keyboard/stand and others have aã > classic laptop layout.. varies by model.ã > --ã > Michael J. Ryan - tracker1@roughneckbbs.comã > ãThe tablet model had a keyboard that attached via magnets.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ The Cave BBS - Since 1992 - cavebbs.homeip.netã

On 22 Sep 2022, Moondog said the following...ã ã Mo> > fu> not that surprising considering Microsoft is banking their whole Oã Mo> > fu> on the concept. bit of a shame they didn't buy lenovo instead.. seã Mo> > fu> they're just making up slowly for lost time.ã Mo> > ã Mo> > Was Lenovo considering selling their PC business?ã Mo> ã Mo> I doubt Lenovo is selling anything. They picked up IBM's Personalã Mo> Computing Division in 2005. They've created a good following since then.ããyeah sorry, misspoke. meant buy ibm's pc business.ãã... When all else fails, read the instructionsãã--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/25 (Windows/32)ã * Origin: cold fusion - cfbbs.net - grand rapids, miã

In the 90s, I used to use FrontDoor for my FTN mailer, which seemedã Ni> like a good one. I think it was shareware. A lot of RemoteAccessã Ni> BBSes seemed to use FrontDoor, but I imagine it would work for anyã Ni> DOS-based BBS software.ãã I first used FrontDoor and GEcho, but went to InterMail and InterEcho,ãback when I ran GT Power under DOS 5. GT also required a separate tosserãcalled FidoGate, to make things work.ããDarylãã... There are many internet scams; send me $20 to learn how.ã=== MultiMail/Win v0.52ã--- SBBSecho 3.15-Win32ã * Origin: The Thunderbolt BBS - Little Rock, Arkansas (1:2320/33)ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Daryl Stout wrote to Nightfox <=-ãã Ni> In the 90s, I used to use FrontDoor for my FTN mailer, which seemedã Ni> like a good one. I think it was shareware. A lot of RemoteAccessã Ni> BBSes seemed to use FrontDoor, but I imagine it would work for anyã Ni> DOS-based BBS software.ãã DS> I first used FrontDoor and GEcho, but went to InterMail andã DS> InterEcho, back when I ran GT Power under DOS 5.ããI did the same thing (FD/GE and then IM/IE) while running PCBoard back ãin the 90's. I actually registered/bought the IM/IE, and thought they ãwere fantastic. Believe I was running DOS 6.22 for the most part.ããã... Windows 3.1 - From the people who brought you EDLIN.ã--- MultiMail/Linux v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FLã

Re: Re: Commercial Synchronetã By: Daryl Stout to Nightfox on Wed Sep 28 2022 11:09 amãã DS> I first used FrontDoor and GEcho, but went to InterMail and InterEcho,ã DS> back when I ran GT Power under DOS 5. GT also required a separate tosserã DS> called FidoGate, to make things work.ããI also used FrontDoor and GEcho in the 90s when I was running RemoteAccess. They were good tools.ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã

Re: Commercial Synchronetã By: Nightfox to HusTler on Fri Sep 23 2022 09:04 amãã > > Irex or Radius was free or paid back then. Maybe there were someã > > shareware mailers?ãã > In the 90s, I used to use FrontDoor for my FTN mailer, which seemed like a gã > one. I think it was shareware. A lot of RemoteAccess BBSes seemed to useã > FrontDoor, but I imagine it would work for any DOS-based BBS software. ã > Nightfoxãã Getting the mailer to work was more difficult then setting up the BBSãsoftware. I remember thinking everyone would want an email address to sendãmessages over the internet. Boy was I wrong. ;-(ã ã |07 HusTlerã--- SBBSecho 3.15-Linuxã * Origin: thePharcyde_ telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin) (1:154/700)ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Re: Commercial Synchronetã By: Steve Wolf to Nightfox on Sat Oct 01 2022 07:46 amãã SW> Getting the mailer to work was more difficult then setting up the BBSã SW> software. I remember thinking everyone would want an email address to sendã SW> messages over the internet. Boy was I wrong. ;-(ããWhat does wanting an internet email address have to do with setting up a mailer with a BBS?ãAlso I didn't think setting up a mailer was any more difficult than setting up the BBS software.ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã