Ok I give.. I know I am running an old version. 3.18, I am only running it as a Door Server and it runs fine so I don't see a need to upgrade it to the latest.. Back when I put this door server online, I turned on the last few callers section. I want to turn it off now. I changed the line in modopts.ini and it still is on. I checked my xternal programs area and it is not listed there at all. Is there a way to turn it off in 3.18? If not I guess I will have to upgrade to 3.19b but I would like to just turn it off on this one.. Any info I have checked the wiki and everywhere else I can guess.. Thanks in advance..ããALãã... I know a good tagline when I steal one!ãã--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/15 (Linux/64)ã * Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (1:267/157)ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Re: Last few callers...ã By: Al DeRosa to All on Sat Oct 01 2022 09:39 pmãã > Ok I give.. I know I am running an old version. 3.18, I am only running itã > as a Door Server and it runs fine so I don't see a need to upgrade it to theã > latest.. Back when I put this door server online, I turned on the last fewã > callers section. I want to turn it off now. I changed the line inã > modopts.ini and it still is on. I checked my xternal programs area and it isã > not listed there at all. Is there a way to turn it off in 3.18? If not Iã > guess I will have to upgrade to 3.19b but I would like to just turn it offã > on this one.. Any info I have checked the wiki and everywhere else I canã > guess.. Thanks in advance..ããI think you're refering to the logonlist module. It's disabled by setting show_logon_list=false in the [logon] section of modopts.ini.ãhttps://wiki.synchro.net/module:logonããWhat did you try?ã-- ã digital man (rob)ããSling Blade quote #26:ãKarl: kaiser blade, ax handle with long blade on it shaped kinda like a banana.ãNorco, CA WX: 80.5øF, 54.0% humidity, 3 mph S wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

On 02 Oct 2022, Digital Man said the following...ã DM> ã DM> I think you're refering to the logonlist module. It's disabled by settingã DM> show_logon_list=false in the [logon] section of modopts.ini.ã DM> https://wiki.synchro.net/module:logonã DM> ã DM> What did you try?ããI did that, it still shows up.. I am running 3.18 though.. Thanks for the help...ãã... What does it mean to pre-board? Do you get on before you get on?ãã--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/15 (Linux/64)ã * Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (1:267/157)ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Re: Re: Last few callers...ã By: Al DeRosa to Digital Man on Sun Oct 02 2022 07:14 pmãã > On 02 Oct 2022, Digital Man said the following...ã >ã > DM> I think you're refering to the logonlist module. It's disabled byã > DM> setting show_logon_list=false in the [logon] section of modopts.ini.ã > DM> https://wiki.synchro.net/module:logonã >ã > DM> What did you try?ã >ã > I did that, it still shows up.. I am running 3.18 though.. Thanks for theã > help...ããAre you sure? The logon.js change in question was made Oct-30-2019, almost aãyear before v3.18b was released.ã-- ã digital man (rob)ããThis Is Spinal Tap quote #25:ãViv Savage: Have... a good... time... all the time. That's my philosophy.ãNorco, CA WX: 68.0øF, 75.0% humidity, 6 mph S wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

On 02 Oct 2022, Digital Man said the following...ã ã DM> ã DM> Are you sure? The logon.js change in question was made Oct-30-2019,ã DM> almost a year before v3.18b was released.ã DM> -- ããThat's probably the reason the version I am running is 1/1/2019.. I think I am just going to upgrade to the latest version. I don't like staying behind on software and this one I have stayed behind to long... Thanks for the help DM, I do appreciate it...ããALãã... DOS=HIGH? I knew it was on something...ãã--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/15 (Linux/64)ã * Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (1:267/157)ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Re: Re: Last few callers...ã By: Al DeRosa to Digital Man on Mon Oct 03 2022 05:59 pmãã > On 02 Oct 2022, Digital Man said the following...ã >ã >ã > DM> Are you sure? The logon.js change in question was made Oct-30-2019,ã > DM> almost a year before v3.18b was released.ã > DM> --ã >ã > That's probably the reason the version I am running is 1/1/2019..ããv3.17b was released on Jan-1-2019.ãã > I think Iã > am just going to upgrade to the latest version. I don't like staying behindã > on software and this one I have stayed behind to long... Thanks for the helpã > DM, I do appreciate it...ããSounds like the right move to me.ã-- ã digital man (rob)ããSling Blade quote #2:ãKarl (re: killing Doyle): I hit him two good whacks in the head with it.ãNorco, CA WX: 83.5øF, 50.0% humidity, 9 mph S wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

On 03 Oct 2022, Digital Man said the following...ã DM> > That's probably the reason the version I am running is 1/1/2019..ã DM> ã DM> v3.17b was released on Jan-1-2019.ã DM> ãã DM> ã DM> > on software and this one I have stayed behind to long... Thanks for theã DM> > DM, I do appreciate it...ã DM> ã DM> Sounds like the right move to me.ããYea, I think so too.. LOL Let me ask you, if I do a full clean install with the latest files. What files can I copy from my old install to keep my user list and doors list, like I said this is a DoorParty type server (which uses the Door Party front end of RLOGIN to the menu) if I can do that I think it might be a lot better off, I did an upgrade to 3.18b last year and now I am seeing it wasn't a complete upgrade but a half assed one.. Jeez.. THanks again for the help..ããAlãã... 640K ought to be enough for anybody. -Bill Gates, 1981.ãã--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/15 (Linux/64)ã * Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (1:267/157)ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Re: Re: Last few callers...ã By: Al DeRosa to Digital Man on Mon Oct 03 2022 07:42 pmãã > On 03 Oct 2022, Digital Man said the following...ã > DM> > That's probably the reason the version I am running is 1/1/2019..ã >ã > DM> v3.17b was released on Jan-1-2019.ã >ã >ã >ã > DM> > on software and this one I have stayed behind to long... Thanks forã > DM> > the DM, I do appreciate it...ã >ã > DM> Sounds like the right move to me.ã >ã > Yea, I think so too.. LOL Let me ask you, if I do a full clean install withã > the latest files. What files can I copy from my old install to keep my userã > list and doors list,ããRead http://wiki.synchro.net/faq:misc#migrationãã > like I said this is a DoorParty type server (which usesã > the Door Party front end of RLOGIN to the menu) if I can do that I think itã > might be a lot better off, I did an upgrade to 3.18b last year and now I amã > seeing it wasn't a complete upgrade but a half assed one.. Jeez.. THanksã > again for the help..ããI work hard to make the upgrade path smooth (no "full clean [re]install" should ever be needed). Just make sure you're running 'jsexec update' after each update/upgrade.ã-- ã digital man (rob)ããBreaking Bad quote #33:ãThis guy [Gale], it's like scarface had sex with Mr. Rogers. - Hank SchraderãNorco, CA WX: 63.2øF, 87.0% humidity, 0 mph ENE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

On 04 Oct 2022, Digital Man said the following...ã ã DM> ã DM> Read http://wiki.synchro.net/faq:misc#migrationããThanks DM! Reading it as soon as I finish this message..ãã DM> ã DM> ã DM> I work hard to make the upgrade path smooth (no "full clean [re]install"ã DM> should ever be needed). Just make sure you're running 'jsexec update'ã DM> after each update/upgrade.ã DM> -- ããI know, that is why I was shocked when I saw that my modopts.ini was outdated.. I think the way I have been doing them is wrong, Actually, I haven't done one on this server since about a year and half ago. Why change what isn't broken?!? I have been wanting to rebuild this machine anyway. I am going to make sure everything is good and do it in the background.. Thanks again for all the help it means a lot..ããAlãã... If all the world is a stage, where is the audience sitting?ãã--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/15 (Linux/64)ã * Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (1:267/157)ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Re: Re: Last few callers...ã By: Al DeRosa to Digital Man on Tue Oct 04 2022 06:24 pmãã > On 04 Oct 2022, Digital Man said the following...ã >ã >ã > DM> Read http://wiki.synchro.net/faq:misc#migrationã >ã > Thanks DM! Reading it as soon as I finish this message..ã >ã >ã >ã > DM> I work hard to make the upgrade path smooth (no "full cleanã > DM> [re]install" should ever be needed). Just make sure you're runningã > DM> 'jsexec update' after each update/upgrade.ã > DM> --ã >ã > I know, that is why I was shocked when I saw that my modopts.ini wasã > outdated..ããmodopts.ini is not automatically updated, nor does it need to be. You just add things to your modopts.ini when you need/want them (e.g. based on instructions from recommendations or documentation).ãã > I think the way I have been doing them is wrongããWhat way is that?ãã > Actually, Iã > haven't done one on this server since about a year and half ago. Why changeã > what isn't broken?!? I have been wanting to rebuild this machine anyway. Iã > am going to make sure everything is good and do it in the background..ã > Thanks again for all the help it means a lot..ããNo problem.ã-- ã digital man (rob)ããSling Blade quote #21:ãKarl: Coffee makes me nervous when I drink it. Mmm.ãNorco, CA WX: 83.4øF, 55.0% humidity, 11 mph SSW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

On 04 Oct 2022, Digital Man said the following...ã ã DM> ã DM> modopts.ini is not automatically updated, nor does it need to be. Youã DM> just add things to your modopts.ini when you need/want them (e.g. basedã DM> on instructions from recommendations or documentation).ã DM> ããI have never updated modopts.ini, but it was missing the section of last_user listing.. It only had the question on whether or not to show it. ãã DM> ã DM> > I think the way I have been doing them is wrongã DM> ã DM> What way is that?ããI have been updating exec via the separate update files, sbb_dev.zip, run.zip, ctrl etc. then running jsexec.js update.. Last night I did a full re-install and read the Wiki of what directories to copy over, installed my door Server Rlogin package in the mods directory and everything worked like a charm.. Just gotta finish updating the VM it resides in and it will be ready to go online in place of my current one.. ããTHank you again for all the help.. The more I screw around with the internal workings of it, I am learning more about it.. ããAlãã... How do I set my laser printer to stun?ãã--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/15 (Linux/64)ã * Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (1:267/157)ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Re: Re: Last few callers...ã By: Al DeRosa to Digital Man on Wed Oct 05 2022 06:33 pmãã > On 04 Oct 2022, Digital Man said the following...ã >ã >ã > DM> modopts.ini is not automatically updated, nor does it need to be. Youã > DM> just add things to your modopts.ini when you need/want them (e.g. basedã > DM> on instructions from recommendations or documentation).ã >ã >ã > I have never updated modopts.ini, but it was missing the section ofã > last_user listing.. It only had the question on whether or not to show it.ã >ã >ã > DM> > I think the way I have been doing them is wrongã >ã > DM> What way is that?ã >ã > I have been updating exec via the separate update files, sbb_dev.zip,ã > run.zip, ctrl etc. then running jsexec.js update..ããThat sounds like the correct way. Approximately what is described at http://wiki.synchro.net/install:devãã > Last night I did a fullã > re-install and read the Wiki of what directories to copy over, installed myã > door Server Rlogin package in the mods directory and everything worked likeã > a charm.. Just gotta finish updating the VM it resides in and it will beã > ready to go online in place of my current one..ã >ã > THank you again for all the help.. The more I screw around with the internalã > workings of it, I am learning more about it..ããCool.ã-- ã digital man (rob)ããBreaking Bad quote #3:ãPlease tell me: how much is enough? How big does this pile have to be? - SkylerãNorco, CA WX: 82.6øF, 53.0% humidity, 7 mph S wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

On 05 Oct 2022, Digital Man said the following...ã ã DM> > Last night I did a fullã DM> > re-install and read the Wiki of what directories to copy over, installeã DM> > door Server Rlogin package in the mods directory and everything worked ã DM> > a charm.. Just gotta finish updating the VM it resides in and it will bã DM> > ready to go online in place of my current one..ã DM> >ã DM> > THank you again for all the help.. The more I screw around with the intã DM> > workings of it, I am learning more about it..ã DM> ã DM> Cool.ã DM> -- ããThanks again Rob, everything is in fact better then before. Everything is working as described and now that I have a new set up, I can rebuild my directories and instead of having 11 directories of doors, break it down into a more manageable 5 or 6.. With just about 200 doors online it gets crazy.. LOL ããAlãã... Press any key to continue or any other key to quit...ãã--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/15 (Linux/64)ã * Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (1:267/157)ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Re: Re: Last few callers...ã By: Al DeRosa to Digital Man on Thu Oct 06 2022 06:34 pmãã > Thanks again Rob, everything is in fact better then before. Everything isã > working as described and now that I have a new set up, I can rebuild myã > directories and instead of having 11 directories of doors, break it downã > into a more manageable 5 or 6.. With just about 200 doors online it getsã > crazy.. LOLããpeople get stupid and install hundreds of doors.ããusers don't want that. i dont know why people can't realize that.ãseth robinson said this a long time ago: just have a few good ones.ãhe even said he had a shortcut to lord on his main menu on his bbs.ããyou guys are giving users a facefull of ugly text in mixed colors and it makes them want to take off.ããhave the good ones. then you might have user interaction and that means fun.ããput yourself in their shoes. if you want to do some dick waving and see how many you have, put it in another menu selection.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

On 06 Oct 2022, MRO said the following...ã ã MR> ã MR> put yourself in their shoes. if you want to do some dick waving and seeã MR> how many you have, put it in another menu selection.ã MR> ---ããI do put myself in their shoes, that is why I have a menu with like 6 selections of directories, Multi Player, Single Player, Card Games, Gambling Games, Adult games.ãWhat is in there is what counts, it's not dick waving as you put it to have a Door Server with a lot of games for people if they are into it. It's gives users a choice to play or use what they want. I don't force anyone to call my system's, if they don't like what they see, they don't call. No loss to me, I will still enjoy doing what I am doing with my systems. To me that is all that matters..ãã... Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.ãã--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/15 (Linux/64)ã * Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (1:267/157)ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Re: Re: Last few callers...ã By: Al DeRosa to MRO on Fri Oct 07 2022 06:32 pmãã > On 06 Oct 2022, MRO said the following...ã >ã >ã > MR> put yourself in their shoes. if you want to do some dick waving and seeã > MR> how many you have, put it in another menu selection.ã > MR> ---ã >ã > I do put myself in their shoes, that is why I have a menu with like 6ã > selections of directories, Multi Player, Single Player, Card Games, Gamblingã > Games, Adult games.ã > What is in there is what counts, it's not dick waving as you put it to haveã > a Door Server with a lot of games for people if they are into it. It's givesã > users a choice to play or use what they want. I don't force anyone to callã > my system's, if they don't like what they see, they don't call. No loss toããyou totally missed my point. and like i said, the author of probably the most popular doorgame said it too.ãã > me, I will still enjoy doing what I am doing with my systems. To me that isã > all that matters..ããyes, but aren't we supposed to be running systems for users and not ourselves?ããthat's where sysops lost their way.ããit's fine though, do it how you want to do it. i dont care.ããi'm not picking on you specifically, there's other sysops with shitloads of doorgames. but you certainly are in that mindset.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

On 07 Oct 2022, MRO said the following...ã MR> ã MR> you totally missed my point. and like i said, the author of probably theã MR> most popular doorgame said it too.ã MR> ã MR> ã MR> yes, but aren't we supposed to be running systems for users and notã MR> ourselves?ã MR> ã MR> that's where sysops lost their way.ã MR> ã MR> it's fine though, do it how you want to do it. i dont care.ã MR> ã MR> i'm not picking on you specifically, there's other sysops with shitloadsã MR> of doorgames. but you certainly are in that mindset.ã MR> ---ããI agree to disagree with you and I will leave it at that as this is a support echo not a discussion echo on how to run a BBS...ãã... A house is a place to keep your stuff while you go out and get more stuffãã--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/15 (Linux/64)ã * Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (1:267/157)ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

My apologies for my last response.. There was no need for it. I understand what you are saying, I just offer as much as I can to my users.. As for my comment that as long as it makes me happy thats all that matters, yes we are doing this for the users at least that is what I did for the 12 years I ran a board from the 80's to the 90's, when I got back into it in 2018 I said I was doing it for me now to enjoy it more then my previous time. I ran the largest Commodore BBS Network/Support group for Image BBS for just about 9 years, and it was all work and no play.. Now I am doing it for me thus my answer.. We're good.. Again my apologies for my short snide comment..ãã... ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI.ãã--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/15 (Linux/64)ã * Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (1:267/157)ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

On 10/7/2022 00:02, MRO wrote:

Re: Re: Last few callers...
By: Al DeRosa to Digital Man on Thu Oct 06 2022 06:34 pm

> Thanks again Rob, everything is in fact better then before. Everything is
> working as described and now that I have a new set up, I can rebuild my
> directories and instead of having 11 directories of doors, break it down
> into a more manageable 5 or 6.. With just about 200 doors online it gets
> crazy.. LOL

people get stupid and install hundreds of doors.

users don't want that. i dont know why people can't realize that.
seth robinson said this a long time ago: just have a few good ones.
he even said he had a shortcut to lord on his main menu on his bbs.

you guys are giving users a facefull of ugly text in mixed colors and it makes them want to take off.

have the good ones. then you might have user interaction and that means fun.

put yourself in their shoes. if you want to do some dick waving and see how many you have, put it in another menu selection.
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Why can't you just leave people alone to do what they want with their
own boards? How does what they do diminish you or the hobby in any way?

Just asking.

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