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Automatic Network selection for netmail
From
Charles Blackburn@VERT/FBOBBS to
All on Sat Oct 8 14:11:00 2022
Hi allããquestion.. i have fsxnet as my main "addresS" as that was the first FTN I managed to get going and so forth.ããi also have micronet and fido as "alternates" (for want of a better way of putting it).ããthe question is, when someone netmails me from fido, it automatically replys with an FSX net address.ããobviously i have either screwed something up (highly likely) or im missing something (equally as likely).ããas of right now i found the "let user pick source address" in SCFG, but that's not ideal I'd love for it to automatically pickt he right FTN in a netmail.ããechos are working fine after the same thign was pointed out to me and how to fix that one :D Just netmail i've been struggling with.ããregardsããCharles Blackburnã---ããCharles BlackburnãThe F.B.O BBS 21:1/221 618:250/36ãbbs.thefbo.us IPV4/V6ãDOVE-Net FSX-Net MicroNET USENETã ã ã ãã... Preparation, knowledge, and discipline can deal with any form of danger.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ The FBO BBS - bbs.thefbo.us - A place for aviation fun....ã
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From
Digital Man@VERT to
Charles Blackburn on Sat Oct 8 19:58:30 2022
Re: Automatic Network selection for netmailã By: Charles Blackburn to All on Sat Oct 08 2022 02:11 pmãã > Hi allã >ã > question.. i have fsxnet as my main "addresS" as that was the first FTN Iã > managed to get going and so forth.ã >ã > i also have micronet and fido as "alternates" (for want of a better way ofã > putting it).ã >ã > the question is, when someone netmails me from fido, it automatically replysã > with an FSX net address.ã >ã > obviously i have either screwed something up (highly likely) or im missingã > something (equally as likely).ã >ã > as of right now i found the "let user pick source address" in SCFG, butã > that's not ideal I'd love for it to automatically pickt he right FTN in aã > netmail.ã >ã > echos are working fine after the same thign was pointed out to me and how toã > fix that one :D Just netmail i've been struggling with.ããThe built-in netmailing feature in Synchronet has the logic to match the source zone:net with the destination zone:net (or just zone) automatically. Is the person netmailing you from fido netmailing from a different zone than yours?ã-- ã digital man (rob)ããSynchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #90:ãUTF-8 = 8-bit Unicode Transformation FormatãNorco, CA WX: 75.0øF, 63.0% humidity, 2 mph ESE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
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From
Charles Blackburn@VERT/FBOBBS to
Digital Man on Sun Oct 9 08:12:37 2022
Re: Automatic Network selection for netmailã By: Digital Man to Charles Blackburn on Sat Oct 08 2022 19:58:30ãã >> as of right now i found the "let user pick source address" in SCFG, but that's not ideal I'd love for it toã >> automatically pickt he right FTN in a netmail.ã >> echos are working fine after the same thign was pointed out to me and how to fix that one :D Just netmail i've beenã >> struggling with.ã DM> The built-in netmailing feature in Synchronet has the logic to match the source zone:net with the destination zone:net (orã DM> just zone) automatically. Is the person netmailing you from fido netmailing from a different zone than yours?ããyea i was in zone 1 he was in zone 2.ããregardsããCharles Blackburnã---ããCharles BlackburnãThe F.B.O BBS 21:1/221 618:250/36ãbbs.thefbo.us IPV4/V6ãDOVE-Net FSX-Net MicroNET USENETã ã ã ãã... I've had enough of gardening - I'm just about ready to throw in the trowelã---ã þ Synchronet þ The FBO BBS - bbs.thefbo.us - A place for aviation fun....ã
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From
Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to
Charles Blackburn on Sun Oct 9 15:34:00 2022
Charles Blackburn wrote to Digital Man <=-ãã CB> yea i was in zone 1 he was in zone 2.ã CB> regardsã CB> Charles BlackburnããThere seems to be something wrong with your Shift key.ããYou should fix that so people don't confuse you with MRO.ãããã... Press any key to continue or any other key to quitã--- MultiMail/Linux v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FLã
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From
Charles Blackburn@VERT to
Gamgee on Sun Oct 9 17:41:28 2022
Re: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmailã By: Gamgee to Charles Blackburn on Sun Oct 09 2022 15:34:00ãã Ga> -=> Charles Blackburn wrote to Digital Man <=-ãã CB>> yea i was in zone 1 he was in zone 2.ã CB>> regardsã CB>> Charles Blackburnã Ga> There seems to be something wrong with your Shift key.ããhuh ?ããi might be old but im easily confused :DããregardsããCharles Blackburnã===ããCharles BlackburnãThe F.B.O BBS 21:1/221 618:250/36ãbbs.thefbo.us IPV4/V6ãDOVE-Net FSX-Net MicroNET USENETã ã ã ãã... A good man dies when a boy goes wrong.ã--- SBBSecho 3.15-Linuxã * Origin: The FBO BBS - bbs.thefbo.us (1:135/395)ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
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From
Digital Man@VERT to
Charles Blackburn on Sun Oct 9 16:33:09 2022
Re: Automatic Network selection for netmailã By: Charles Blackburn to Digital Man on Sun Oct 09 2022 08:12 amãã > Re: Automatic Network selection for netmailã > By: Digital Man to Charles Blackburn on Sat Oct 08 2022 19:58:30ã >ã > >> as of right now i found the "let user pick source address" in SCFG, butã > that's not ideal I'd love for it toã > >> automatically pickt he right FTN in a netmail.ã > >> echos are working fine after the same thign was pointed out to me andã > how to fix that one :D Just netmail i've beenã > >> struggling with.ã > DM> The built-in netmailing feature in Synchronet has the logic to matchã > DM> the source zone:net with the destination zone:net (orã > DM> just zone) automatically. Is the person netmailing you from fidoã > DM> netmailing from a different zone than yours?ã >ã > yea i was in zone 1 he was in zone 2.ããWell that explains why. Synchronet doesn't know that zone 1 and zone 2 are part of the same "network".ã-- ã digital man (rob)ããRush quote #1:ãDanger plus survival equals fun. - Neil PeartãNorco, CA WX: 81.5øF, 47.0% humidity, 11 mph S wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
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From
Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to
Charles Blackburn on Sun Oct 9 18:34:00 2022
Charles Blackburn wrote to Gamgee <=-ãã CB>> yea i was in zone 1 he was in zone 2.ã CB>> regardsã CB>> Charles Blackburnãã Ga> There seems to be something wrong with your Shift key.ãã CB> huh ?ã CB> i might be old but im easily confused :DããWell.... was trying to be humorous about it... but. The Shift key. You ãknow, the one that when held down and then a letter key is pressed, ãmakes that letter appear as a CAPITALIZED letter. You know, the ãgenerally accepted correct way to write a proper sentence in English. ãThe way they taught you in school.ããThe rest of my comment was regarding 'MRO', who also never capitalizes ãanything, and well..... you know.ãããã... So easy, a child could do it. Child sold separately.ã--- MultiMail/Linux v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FLã
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From
Charles Blackburn@VERT to
Gamgee on Sun Oct 9 20:49:53 2022
Re: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmailã By: Gamgee to Charles Blackburn on Sun Oct 09 2022 18:34:00ãã Ga> -=> Charles Blackburn wrote to Gamgee <=-ãã Ga>> There seems to be something wrong with your Shift key.ã CB>> huh ?ã CB>> i might be old but im easily confused :Dãã Ga> Well.... was trying to be humorous about it... but. The Shift key. You ã Ga> know, the one that when held down and then a letter key is pressed, ã Ga> makes that letter appear as a CAPITALIZED letter. You know, the ããnoooo really? i thought that's what the CAPS LOCK button was for :Pãã Ga> generally accepted correct way to write a proper sentence in English. ã Ga> The way they taught you in school.ã Ga> The rest of my comment was regarding 'MRO', who also never capitalizes anything, and well..... you know.ããyea i know, but i'm too lazy to do that. it doesn't make it any less readable :Dããregardsã===ããCharles BlackburnãThe F.B.O BBS 21:1/221 618:250/36ãbbs.thefbo.us IPV4/V6ãDOVE-Net FSX-Net MicroNET USENETã ã ã ãã... Milhouse, we live in the age of cooties! - Bart Simpsonã--- SBBSecho 3.15-Linuxã * Origin: The FBO BBS - bbs.thefbo.us (1:135/395)ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
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From
Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to
Charles Blackburn on Sun Oct 9 21:27:00 2022
Charles Blackburn wrote to Gamgee <=-ãã Ga>> There seems to be something wrong with your Shift key.ãã CB>> huh ?ã CB>> i might be old but im easily confused :Dãã Ga> Well.... was trying to be humorous about it... but. The Shift key. Youã Ga> know, the one that when held down and then a letter key is pressed,ã Ga> makes that letter appear as a CAPITALIZED letter. You know, theãã CB> noooo really? i thought that's what the CAPS LOCK button was for :PããThat's similar to the Shift key, but not the same.ãã Ga> generally accepted correct way to write a proper sentence in English.ã Ga> The way they taught you in school.ã Ga> The rest of my comment was regarding 'MRO', who also never capitalizesãanytã CB> hing, and well..... you know.ãã CB> yea i know, but i'm too lazy to do that. it doesn't make it anyã CB> less readable :DããWell, actually it does.ããIt also makes you seem like MRO, which is not a good thing. Only people ãwho dropped out of school at about 4th/5th grade write like that.ããReally. Do yourself a favor and write like an adult.ãããã... He does the work of 3 Men...Moe, Larry & Curlyã--- MultiMail/Linux v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FLã
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From
dragon@VERT/IPTIA to
Digital Man on Sun Oct 9 23:28:46 2022
On 10/9/2022 19:33, Digital Man wrote:
Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail
By: Charles Blackburn to Digital Man on Sun Oct 09 2022 08:12 am
> yea i was in zone 1 he was in zone 2.
Well that explains why. Synchronet doesn't know that zone 1 and zone 2 are part of the same "network".
Is there a way to let Synchronet know that zones 1 through 4 are all in Fidonet?
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From
Charles Blackburn@VERT/FBOBBS to
Digital Man on Sun Oct 9 20:34:14 2022
Re: Automatic Network selection for netmailã By: Digital Man to Charles Blackburn on Sun Oct 09 2022 16:33:09ãã > DM>> The built-in netmailing feature in Synchronet has the logic to match the source zone:net with the destination zone:net (orã > DM>> just zone) automatically. Is the person netmailing you from fido netmailing from a different zone than yours?ãã >> yea i was in zone 1 he was in zone 2.ãã DM> Well that explains why. Synchronet doesn't know that zone 1 and zone 2 are part of the same "network".ããis there any way outside of "selecting manually" the origin address to do it?ããfor example, i noticed in (i think it was) echobbs where you specify your hubs. I have 1:xxx/xxx and 1:ALL - can i do 2:ALL ?ããregardsã---ããCharles BlackburnãThe F.B.O BBS 21:1/221 618:250/36ãbbs.thefbo.us IPV4/V6ãDOVE-Net FSX-Net MicroNET USENETã ã ã ãã... A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ The FBO BBS - bbs.thefbo.us - A place for aviation fun....ã
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From
Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to
dragon on Mon Oct 10 08:11:00 2022
dragon wrote to Digital Man <=-ãã > Re: Automatic Network selection for netmailã > By: Charles Blackburn to Digital Man on Sun Oct 09 2022 08:12 amã >ã > > yea i was in zone 1 he was in zone 2.ãã > Well that explains why. Synchronet doesn't know that zone 1 and zoneã > 2 are part of the same "network".ãã dr> Is there a way to let Synchronet know that zones 1 through 4 areã dr> all in Fidonet?ããCertainly. From my /sbbs/ctrl/sbbsecho.ini :ãã[domain:fidonet]ã Zones = 1,2,3,4ã DNSSuffix = binkp.netã NodeList = /sbbs/fido/nodelist/NODELIST.217ãã(that last line may vary according to your preferences)ããYou should have a "domain" declaration section for each network that ãyour system is connected to.ãããã... Computer Hacker wanted. Must have own axe.ã--- MultiMail/Linux v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FLã
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From
Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to
Charles Blackburn on Mon Oct 10 08:14:00 2022
Charles Blackburn wrote to Digital Man <=-ãã CB> Re: Automatic Network selection for netmailã CB> By: Digital Man to Charles Blackburn on Sun Oct 09 2022ã CB> 16:33:09ãã > DM>> The built-in netmailing feature in Synchronet has the logic to matchãtheã CB> source zone:net with the destination zone:net (orã > DM>> just zone) automatically. Is the person netmailing you from fidoãnetmailã CB> ing from a different zone than yours?ãã >> yea i was in zone 1 he was in zone 2.ãã DM> Well that explains why. Synchronet doesn't know that zone 1 and zone 2 areã CB> part of the same "network".ãã CB> is there any way outside of "selecting manually" the originã CB> address to do it?ãã CB> for example, i noticed in (i think it was) echobbs where youã CB> specify your hubs. I have 1:xxx/xxx and 1:ALL - can i do 2:ALL ?ããYes, you certainly can, and certainly *should*.ããAlso, in a previous reply I made in this thread, you can/should specify ãwhat zones belong to what networks. In your sbbsecho.ini file you ãshould have something similar to this:ãã[domain:fidonet]ã Zones = 1,2,3,4ã DNSSuffix = binkp.netã NodeList = /sbbs/fido/nodelist/NODELIST.217ãã[domain:fsxnet]ã Zones = 21ã DNSSuffix = fsxnet.nzã NodeList = /sbbs/fido/nodelist/FSXNET.217ããetc, etc...ãããã... Gone crazy, be back later, please leave message.ã--- MultiMail/Linux v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FLã
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From
Digital Man@VERT to
dragon on Mon Oct 10 10:37:32 2022
Re: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmailã By: dragon to Digital Man on Sun Oct 09 2022 11:28 pmãã > Subject: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmailã > @MSGID: <
63439171.39080.dove-syncdisc@bbs2.ipingthereforeiam.com>ã > @REPLY: <
63435A35.48370.sync@vert.synchro.net>ã > @TZ: ff10ã > On 10/9/2022 19:33, Digital Man wrote:ã > > Re: Automatic Network selection for netmailã > > By: Charles Blackburn to Digital Man on Sun Oct 09 2022 08:12 amã >ã > > > yea i was in zone 1 he was in zone 2.ã >ã > > Well that explains why. Synchronet doesn't know that zone 1 and zone 2 areã > > part of the same "network".ã >ã > Is there a way to let Synchronet know that zones 1 through 4 are all inã > Fidonet?ããNot currently. I created this issue to track this request however:ã
https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/447ã-- ã digital man (rob)ããSynchronet "Real Fact" #63:ã"Baja" (name of Synchronet PCMS compiler/languege) is pronounced "ba-ha"ãNorco, CA WX: 66.6øF, 90.0% humidity, 2 mph ESE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
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From
Digital Man@VERT to
Gamgee on Mon Oct 10 10:38:46 2022
Re: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmailã By: Gamgee to dragon on Mon Oct 10 2022 08:11 amãã > -=> dragon wrote to Digital Man <=-ã >ã > > Re: Automatic Network selection for netmailã > > By: Charles Blackburn to Digital Man on Sun Oct 09 2022 08:12 amã >ã > > > yea i was in zone 1 he was in zone 2.ã >ã > > Well that explains why. Synchronet doesn't know that zone 1 and zoneã > > 2 are part of the same "network".ã >ã > dr> Is there a way to let Synchronet know that zones 1 through 4 areã > dr> all in Fidonet?ã >ã > Certainly. From my /sbbs/ctrl/sbbsecho.ini :ã >ã > [domain:fidonet]ã > Zones = 1,2,3,4ã > DNSSuffix = binkp.netã > NodeList = /sbbs/fido/nodelist/NODELIST.217ã >ã > (that last line may vary according to your preferences)ã >ã > You should have a "domain" declaration section for each network thatã > your system is connected to.ããSynchronet (e.g. sbbs) doesn't read/use the sbbsecho.ini file, so it doesn'tãknow anything about FTN domains.ã-- ã digital man (rob)ããBreaking Bad quote #51:ãI did it for me. I liked it. I was good at it. And.. I was really.. I was aliveãNorco, CA WX: 66.6øF, 90.0% humidity, 2 mph ESE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
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From
dragon@VERT/IPTIA to
Gamgee on Mon Oct 10 14:23:08 2022
On 10/10/2022 09:11, Gamgee wrote:
dragon wrote to Digital Man <=-
dr> Is there a way to let Synchronet know that zones 1 through 4 are
dr> all in Fidonet?
Certainly. From my /sbbs/ctrl/sbbsecho.ini :
[domain:fidonet]
Zones = 1,2,3,4
DNSSuffix = binkp.net
NodeList = /sbbs/fido/nodelist/NODELIST.217
(that last line may vary according to your preferences)
You should have a "domain" declaration section for each network that
your system is connected to.
Thanks. I found this shortly after I sent my post.
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From
dragon@VERT/IPTIA to
Digital Man on Mon Oct 10 14:42:07 2022
On 10/10/2022 13:38, Digital Man wrote:
> You should have a "domain" declaration section for each network that
> your system is connected to.
Synchronet (e.g. sbbs) doesn't read/use the sbbsecho.ini file, so it doesn't know anything about FTN domains.
Wouldn't it make more sense if it did?
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From
Digital Man@VERT to
dragon on Mon Oct 10 15:19:34 2022
Re: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmailã By: dragon to Digital Man on Mon Oct 10 2022 02:42 pmãã > Subject: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmailã > @MSGID: <
63446782.39089.dove-syncdisc@bbs2.ipingthereforeiam.com>ã > @REPLY: <
634458A6.48380.sync@vert.synchro.net>ã > @TZ: ff10ã > On 10/10/2022 13:38, Digital Man wrote:ã >ã > > > You should have a "domain" declaration section for each network thatã > > > your system is connected to.ã >ã > > Synchronet (e.g. sbbs) doesn't read/use the sbbsecho.ini file, so itã > > doesn't know anything about FTN domains.ã >ã > Wouldn't it make more sense if it did?ããSynchronet doesn't support 5D FTN addresses, nor do I see a need for it to, so no: I don't think it'd make more sense if sbbs used the sbbsecho.ini file for this purpsoe.ã-- ã digital man (rob)ããBreaking Bad quote #27:ãOther than Gomey here pees sitting down, here's what we know. - Hank SchraderãNorco, CA WX: 81.8øF, 55.0% humidity, 5 mph SSE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
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From
Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to
Digital Man on Mon Oct 10 21:39:00 2022
Digital Man wrote to Gamgee <=-ãã DM> Re: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmailã DM> By: Gamgee to dragon on Mon Oct 10 2022 08:11 amãã > > Well that explains why. Synchronet doesn't know that zone 1 and zoneã > > 2 are part of the same "network".ãã > dr> Is there a way to let Synchronet know that zones 1 through 4 areã > dr> all in Fidonet?ãã > Certainly. From my /sbbs/ctrl/sbbsecho.ini :ã >ã > [domain:fidonet]ã > Zones = 1,2,3,4ã > DNSSuffix = binkp.netã > NodeList = /sbbs/fido/nodelist/NODELIST.217ã >ã > (that last line may vary according to your preferences)ã >ã > You should have a "domain" declaration section for each network thatã > your system is connected to.ãã DM> Synchronet (e.g. sbbs) doesn't read/use the sbbsecho.ini file, soã DM> it doesn't know anything about FTN domains.ããBut.... we're talking about netmail... Isn't netmail sent with ãsbbsecho? ããWhen I write a netmail to someone in Zone 2, the choice of originating ãFTN address defaults to my Zone 1 address. Same if I write to Zone 3 or ã4. If I write to Zone 21, it "knows" to default to my Zone 21 address ãas originator.ãã<PUZZLED>ãããã... Gone crazy, be back later, please leave message.ã--- MultiMail/Linux v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FLã
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From
dragon@VERT/IPTIA to
Digital Man on Mon Oct 10 22:07:38 2022
On 10/10/2022 18:19, Digital Man wrote:
Re: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail
By: dragon to Digital Man on Mon Oct 10 2022 02:42 pm
> Subject: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail
> @MSGID: <63446782.39089.dove-syncdisc@bbs2.ipingthereforeiam.com>
> @REPLY: <634458A6.48380.sync@vert.synchro.net>
> @TZ: ff10
> On 10/10/2022 13:38, Digital Man wrote:
>
> > > You should have a "domain" declaration section for each network that
> > > your system is connected to.
>
> > Synchronet (e.g. sbbs) doesn't read/use the sbbsecho.ini file, so it
> > doesn't know anything about FTN domains.
>
> Wouldn't it make more sense if it did?
Synchronet doesn't support 5D FTN addresses, nor do I see a need for it to, so no: I don't think it'd make more sense if sbbs used the sbbsecho.ini file for this purpsoe.
OK. So I must be missing something. Is it possible for a Fidonet zone
1 node to exchange netmail with a Fidonet zone 2 node via a Synchronet BBS?
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From
Digital Man@VERT to
Gamgee on Tue Oct 11 10:22:47 2022
Re: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmailã By: Gamgee to Digital Man on Mon Oct 10 2022 09:39 pmãã > -=> Digital Man wrote to Gamgee <=-ã >ã > DM> Re: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmailã > DM> By: Gamgee to dragon on Mon Oct 10 2022 08:11 amã >ã > > > Well that explains why. Synchronet doesn't know that zone 1 and zoneã > > > 2 are part of the same "network".ã >ã > > dr> Is there a way to let Synchronet know that zones 1 through 4 areã > > dr> all in Fidonet?ã >ã > > Certainly. From my /sbbs/ctrl/sbbsecho.ini :ã >ã > > [domain:fidonet]ã > > Zones = 1,2,3,4ã > > DNSSuffix = binkp.netã > > NodeList = /sbbs/fido/nodelist/NODELIST.217ã >ã > > (that last line may vary according to your preferences)ã >ã > > You should have a "domain" declaration section for each network thatã > > your system is connected to.ã >ã > DM> Synchronet (e.g. sbbs) doesn't read/use the sbbsecho.ini file, soã > DM> it doesn't know anything about FTN domains.ã >ã > But.... we're talking about netmail... Isn't netmail sent withã > sbbsecho?ããNormally, yes, but that's not strictly required. SBBSecho is the officially supported FTN tosser/scanner, but it hasn't always been the *only* one.ãã > When I write a netmail to someone in Zone 2, the choice of originatingã > FTN address defaults to my Zone 1 address. Same if I write to Zone 3 orã > 4. If I write to Zone 21, it "knows" to default to my Zone 21 addressã > as originator.ã >ã > <PUZZLED>ããWhat are you puzzled about?ã-- ã digital man (rob)ããSling Blade quote #19:ãDoyle: I can't so much as drink a damn glass of water around a midgetãNorco, CA WX: 65.0øF, 88.0% humidity, 3 mph ESE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
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From
Digital Man@VERT to
dragon on Tue Oct 11 10:23:08 2022
Re: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmailã By: dragon to Digital Man on Mon Oct 10 2022 10:07 pmãã > Subject: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmailã > @MSGID: <
6344CFED.39091.dove-syncdisc@bbs2.ipingthereforeiam.com>ã > @REPLY: <
63449A76.48383.sync@vert.synchro.net>ã > @TZ: ff10ã > On 10/10/2022 18:19, Digital Man wrote:ã > > Re: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmailã > > By: dragon to Digital Man on Mon Oct 10 2022 02:42 pmã >ã > > > Subject: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmailã > > > @MSGID: <
63446782.39089.dove-syncdisc@bbs2.ipingthereforeiam.com>ã > > > @REPLY: <
634458A6.48380.sync@vert.synchro.net>ã > > > @TZ: ff10ã > > > On 10/10/2022 13:38, Digital Man wrote:ã > > >ã > > > > > You should have a "domain" declaration section for each networkã > > thatã > > > > > your system is connected to.ã > > >ã > > > > Synchronet (e.g. sbbs) doesn't read/use the sbbsecho.ini file, so itã > > > > doesn't know anything about FTN domains.ã > > >ã > > > Wouldn't it make more sense if it did?ã >ã > > Synchronet doesn't support 5D FTN addresses, nor do I see a need for itã > > to, so no: I don't think it'd make more sense if sbbs used theã > > sbbsecho.ini file for this purpsoe.ã >ã > OK. So I must be missing something. Is it possible for a Fidonet zoneã > 1 node to exchange netmail with a Fidonet zone 2 node via a Synchronet BBS?ããYes, of course.ã-- ã digital man (rob)ããSynchronet "Real Fact" #48:ãSynchronet directory naming (i.e. ctrl, exec, data) was suggested by S. DeppeãNorco, CA WX: 65.0øF, 88.0% humidity, 3 mph ESE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
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Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to
Digital Man on Tue Oct 11 17:37:00 2022
Digital Man wrote to Gamgee <=-ãã DM> Re: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmailã DM> By: Gamgee to Digital Man on Mon Oct 10 2022 09:39 pmãã > > dr> Is there a way to let Synchronet know that zones 1 through 4 areã > > dr> all in Fidonet?ãã > > Certainly. From my /sbbs/ctrl/sbbsecho.ini :ã >ã > > [domain:fidonet]ã > > Zones = 1,2,3,4ã > > DNSSuffix = binkp.netã > > NodeList = /sbbs/fido/nodelist/NODELIST.217ã >ã > > You should have a "domain" declaration section for each network thatã > > your system is connected to.ãã > DM> Synchronet (e.g. sbbs) doesn't read/use the sbbsecho.ini file, soã > DM> it doesn't know anything about FTN domains.ãã > But.... we're talking about netmail... Isn't netmail sent withã > sbbsecho?ãã DM> Normally, yes, but that's not strictly required. SBBSecho is theã DM> officially supported FTN tosser/scanner, but it hasn't alwaysã DM> been the *only* one.ããOkay.... but for most (nearly all) current SBBS sysops, it's what is ãbeing used, I'd guess. I understand what you're saying about *SBBS* not ãusing sbbsecho.ini, but for all intents and purposes, the *BBS system* ãis using it for knowing how to send/route netmail.ãã > When I write a netmail to someone in Zone 2, the choice of originatingã > FTN address defaults to my Zone 1 address. Same if I write to Zone 3 orã > 4. If I write to Zone 21, it "knows" to default to my Zone 21 addressã > as originator.ã >ã > <PUZZLED>ãã DM> What are you puzzled about?ããI guess I'm puzzled at how defining the FTN domains in sbbsecho.ini ãisn't the correct answer to the original question about having FidoNet ãknow it uses Zones 1-4. It sure seems to be doing that on my system.ããã... Gone crazy, be back later, please leave message.ã--- MultiMail/Linux v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FLã
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Digital Man@VERT to
Gamgee on Tue Oct 11 16:28:08 2022
Re: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmailã By: Gamgee to Digital Man on Tue Oct 11 2022 05:37 pmãã > DM> What are you puzzled about?ã >ã > I guess I'm puzzled at how defining the FTN domains in sbbsecho.iniã > isn't the correct answer to the original question about having FidoNetã > know it uses Zones 1-4. It sure seems to be doing that on my system.ããThe original question was about having Synchronet (sbbs) set the default source address to another zone within the same network/domain when replying a netmail message. I think my recent commit addresses the request.ã-- ã digital man (rob)ããSynchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #52:ãMUD = Multi-User DungeonãNorco, CA WX: 75.7øF, 65.0% humidity, 3 mph SE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
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Charles Blackburn@VERT/FBOBBS to
Gamgee on Tue Oct 11 16:04:34 2022
Re: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmailã By: Gamgee to Charles Blackburn on Sun Oct 09 2022 21:27:00ãã Ga> -=> Charles Blackburn wrote to Gamgee <=-ãã Ga>>> There seems to be something wrong with your Shift key.ãã<CUT>ãã CB>> noooo really? i thought that's what the CAPS LOCK button was for :Pã Ga> That's similar to the Shift key, but not the same.ããsame same but different :D I get itãã<CUT>ãã CB>> yea i know, but i'm too lazy to do that. it doesn't make it anyã CB>> less readable :Dã Ga> Well, actually it does.ããwanna borrow my glasses? I have a couple spare pairs :Dãã Ga> It also makes you seem like MRO, which is not a good thing. Only people ã Ga> who dropped out of school at about 4th/5th grade write like that.ã Ga> Really. Do yourself a favor and write like an adult.ããYOU KNW I COULD WRITE LIKE THIS. I MEAN I KNOW ITS SHOUTING AND ALL THAT BUT I KNOW A LOT OF ADULTS THAT WRITE LIKE THIS TOO! :Dããor maybe i could just say... well if you don't like it then just don't read it.. simple as.ããI learned a long time ago that if people don't like what i say or the way i type, then that's their problem not mine.ããas the saying goes... "my f**ks left a long time ago and i didnt even give them out" :Dããregardsã---ããCharles BlackburnãThe F.B.O BBS 21:1/221 618:250/36ãbbs.thefbo.us IPV4/V6ãDOVE-Net FSX-Net MicroNET USENETã ã ã ãã... He knew everything about literature, except how to enjoy it.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ The FBO BBS - bbs.thefbo.us - A place for aviation fun....ã
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Charles Blackburn@VERT/FBOBBS to
Gamgee on Tue Oct 11 16:05:47 2022
Re: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmailã By: Gamgee to dragon on Mon Oct 10 2022 08:11:00ãã Ga> -=> dragon wrote to Digital Man <=-ãã >> Re: Automatic Network selection for netmailã >> By: Charles Blackburn to Digital Man on Sun Oct 09 2022 08:12 amãã<CUT>ãã dr>> Is there a way to let Synchronet know that zones 1 through 4 areã dr>> all in Fidonet?ãã Ga> Certainly. From my /sbbs/ctrl/sbbsecho.ini :ãã Ga> [domain:fidonet]ã Ga> Zones = 1,2,3,4ã Ga> DNSSuffix = binkp.netã Ga> NodeList = /sbbs/fido/nodelist/NODELIST.217ããSWEET thanks, appreciate it. I figured there had to be an easy way :Dããregardsã---ããCharles BlackburnãThe F.B.O BBS 21:1/221 618:250/36ãbbs.thefbo.us IPV4/V6ãDOVE-Net FSX-Net MicroNET USENETã ã ã ãã... Mongo LIKE Candygram.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ The FBO BBS - bbs.thefbo.us - A place for aviation fun....ã
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Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to
GAMGEE on Tue Oct 11 16:31:00 2022
When I write a netmail to someone in Zone 2, the choice of originatingã> FTN address defaults to my Zone 1 address. Same if I write to Zone 3 orã> 4. If I write to Zone 21, it "knows" to default to my Zone 21 addressã> as originator.ããThat may have something to do with how you set up your FTN addresses inãSCFG. If your default address is a Z1 address, it is probably going to useãthat one for any other zones it does not find a match for.ããThere are also some settings in sbbsecho.ini, but I am not sure if it usesãthose for picking the zone to put on the netmail or only to route it, i.e.ãã[node:2:ALL]ã (stuff removed)ã Route = 1:154/10ã[node:3:ALL]ã (stuff removed)ã Route = 1:154/10ã[node:4:ALL]ã (stuff removed)ã Route = 1:154/10ããã * SLMR 2.1a * Reality-O-Meter: [\.......] Hmmph! Thought so.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ CAPCITY2 * capcity2.synchro.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/Rlogin/HTTPã
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Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to
Gamgee on Tue Oct 11 18:08:06 2022
Re: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmailã By: Gamgee to Digital Man on Tue Oct 11 2022 05:37 pmãã DM>> Normally, yes, but that's not strictly required. SBBSecho is theã DM>> officially supported FTN tosser/scanner, but it hasn't alwaysã DM>> been the *only* one.ãã Ga> Okay.... but for most (nearly all) current SBBS sysops, it's what is ã Ga> being used, I'd guess. I understand what you're saying about *SBBS* not ã Ga> using sbbsecho.ini, but for all intents and purposes, the *BBS system* ã Ga> is using it for knowing how to send/route netmail.ããYeah, that's basically how I think of it. Since sbbsecho is included with Synchronet (and I think has been since I started using Synchronet), I tend to think of sbbsecho as a component of Synchronet/SBBS. And sbbsecho seems to do the job, and I don't know of another tosser I'd rather use in place of it.ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã
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Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to
Digital Man on Wed Oct 12 17:46:00 2022
Digital Man wrote to Gamgee <=-ãã DM> Re: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmailã DM> By: Gamgee to Digital Man on Tue Oct 11 2022 05:37 pmãã > DM> What are you puzzled about?ãã > I guess I'm puzzled at how defining the FTN domains in sbbsecho.iniã > isn't the correct answer to the original question about having FidoNetã > know it uses Zones 1-4. It sure seems to be doing that on my system.ãã DM> The original question was about having Synchronet (sbbs) set theã DM> default source address to another zone within the sameã DM> network/domain when replying a netmail message. I think my recentã DM> commit addresses the request.ããI've no doubt that it does.ããI also believe that defining the Zones in sbbsecho.ini does that too, ãwith the assumption that SBBS is using sbbsecho. I understand the ãdangers of making assumptions, especially when programming a complicated ãbeast such as what we're talking about, and why it's correct to do it ãthe way you have. Your efforts are very much appreciated! :-)ããã... Gone crazy, be back later, please leave message.ã--- MultiMail/Linux v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FLã
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Charles Blackburn@VERT/FBOBBS to
Dumas Walker on Fri Oct 14 16:35:12 2022
Re: Re: Automatic Network selã By: Dumas Walker to GAMGEE on Tue Oct 11 2022 16:31:00ãã >> When I write a netmail to someone in Zone 2, the choice of originatingã >> FTN address defaults to my Zone 1 address. Same if I write to Zone 3 orã >> 4. If I write to Zone 21, it "knows" to default to my Zone 21 addressã >> as originator.ã DW> That may have something to do with how you set up your FTN addresses inã DW> SCFG. If your default address is a Z1 address, it is probably going to use that one for any other zones it does not find aã DW> match for.ããyea and that's what i was thinking would happenãã DW> There are also some settings in sbbsecho.ini, but I am not sure if it uses those for picking the zone to put on the netmailã DW> or only to route it, i.e.ãã DW> [node:2:ALL]ã DW> (stuff removed)ã DW> Route = 1:154/10ã DW> [node:3:ALL]ã DW> (stuff removed)ã DW> Route = 1:154/10ã DW> [node:4:ALL]ã DW> (stuff removed)ã DW> Route = 1:154/10ãããyea, but i dont know if that will designate the source address as opposed to the routing :Dããregardsã---ããCharles BlackburnãThe F.B.O BBS 21:1/221 618:250/36ãbbs.thefbo.us IPV4/V6ãDOVE-Net FSX-Net MicroNET USENETã ã ã ãã... If you can't see the bright side, polish the dull side.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ The FBO BBS - bbs.thefbo.us - A place for aviation fun....ã
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From
Charles Blackburn@VERT/FBOBBS to
Nightfox on Fri Oct 14 16:36:33 2022
Re: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmailã By: Nightfox to Gamgee on Tue Oct 11 2022 18:08:06ããã Ga>> Okay.... but for most (nearly all) current SBBS sysops, it's what is being used, I'd guess. I understand what you'reã Ga>> saying about *SBBS* not using sbbsecho.ini, but for all intents and purposes, the *BBS system* ã Ga>> is using it for knowing how to send/route netmail.ãã Ni> Yeah, that's basically how I think of it. Since sbbsecho is included with Synchronet (and I think has been since I startedã Ni> using Synchronet), I tend to think of sbbsecho as a component of Synchronet/SBBS. And sbbsecho seems to do the job, and Iããyea that's why i specifically said sbbsecho, it was part of it and i was following parts of the wiki so it makes sense to use it to me :Dããã Ni> don't know of another tosser I'd rather use in place of it.ããas a brit, "tosser" has multiple connotations :Dããregardsã---ããCharles BlackburnãThe F.B.O BBS 21:1/221 618:250/36ãbbs.thefbo.us IPV4/V6ãDOVE-Net FSX-Net MicroNET USENETã ã ã ãã... To a friends' house, the road is never long.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ The FBO BBS - bbs.thefbo.us - A place for aviation fun....ã
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Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to
Charles Blackburn on Fri Oct 14 17:56:23 2022
Re: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmailã By: Charles Blackburn to Nightfox on Fri Oct 14 2022 04:36 pmãã Ni> don't know of another tosser I'd rather use in place of it.ãã CB> as a brit, "tosser" has multiple connotations :Dãã:PããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã