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Automatic Network selection for netmail
From
Charles Blackburn@VERT/FBOBBS to
All on Sat Oct 8 14:11:00 2022
Hi all��question.. i have fsxnet as my main "addresS" as that was the first FTN I managed to get going and so forth.��i also have micronet and fido as "alternates" (for want of a better way of putting it).��the question is, when someone netmails me from fido, it automatically replys with an FSX net address.��obviously i have either screwed something up (highly likely) or im missing something (equally as likely).��as of right now i found the "let user pick source address" in SCFG, but that's not ideal I'd love for it to automatically pickt he right FTN in a netmail.��echos are working fine after the same thign was pointed out to me and how to fix that one :D Just netmail i've been struggling with.��regards��Charles Blackburn�---��Charles Blackburn�The F.B.O BBS 21:1/221 618:250/36�bbs.thefbo.us IPV4/V6�DOVE-Net FSX-Net MicroNET USENET� � � ��... Preparation, knowledge, and discipline can deal with any form of danger.�---� � Synchronet � The FBO BBS - bbs.thefbo.us - A place for aviation fun....�
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From
Digital Man@VERT to
Charles Blackburn on Sat Oct 8 19:58:30 2022
Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail� By: Charles Blackburn to All on Sat Oct 08 2022 02:11 pm�� > Hi all� >� > question.. i have fsxnet as my main "addresS" as that was the first FTN I� > managed to get going and so forth.� >� > i also have micronet and fido as "alternates" (for want of a better way of� > putting it).� >� > the question is, when someone netmails me from fido, it automatically replys� > with an FSX net address.� >� > obviously i have either screwed something up (highly likely) or im missing� > something (equally as likely).� >� > as of right now i found the "let user pick source address" in SCFG, but� > that's not ideal I'd love for it to automatically pickt he right FTN in a� > netmail.� >� > echos are working fine after the same thign was pointed out to me and how to� > fix that one :D Just netmail i've been struggling with.��The built-in netmailing feature in Synchronet has the logic to match the source zone:net with the destination zone:net (or just zone) automatically. Is the person netmailing you from fido netmailing from a different zone than yours?�-- � digital man (rob)��Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #90:�UTF-8 = 8-bit Unicode Transformation Format�Norco, CA WX: 75.0�F, 63.0% humidity, 2 mph ESE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs�---� � Synchronet � Vertrauen � Home of Synchronet � [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net�
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From
Charles Blackburn@VERT/FBOBBS to
Digital Man on Sun Oct 9 08:12:37 2022
Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail� By: Digital Man to Charles Blackburn on Sat Oct 08 2022 19:58:30�� >> as of right now i found the "let user pick source address" in SCFG, but that's not ideal I'd love for it to� >> automatically pickt he right FTN in a netmail.� >> echos are working fine after the same thign was pointed out to me and how to fix that one :D Just netmail i've been� >> struggling with.� DM> The built-in netmailing feature in Synchronet has the logic to match the source zone:net with the destination zone:net (or� DM> just zone) automatically. Is the person netmailing you from fido netmailing from a different zone than yours?��yea i was in zone 1 he was in zone 2.��regards��Charles Blackburn�---��Charles Blackburn�The F.B.O BBS 21:1/221 618:250/36�bbs.thefbo.us IPV4/V6�DOVE-Net FSX-Net MicroNET USENET� � � ��... I've had enough of gardening - I'm just about ready to throw in the trowel�---� � Synchronet � The FBO BBS - bbs.thefbo.us - A place for aviation fun....�
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From
Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to
Charles Blackburn on Sun Oct 9 15:34:00 2022
Charles Blackburn wrote to Digital Man <=-�� CB> yea i was in zone 1 he was in zone 2.� CB> regards� CB> Charles Blackburn��There seems to be something wrong with your Shift key.��You should fix that so people don't confuse you with MRO.����... Press any key to continue or any other key to quit�--- MultiMail/Linux v0.52� � Synchronet � Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL�
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From
Charles Blackburn@VERT to
Gamgee on Sun Oct 9 17:41:28 2022
Re: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail� By: Gamgee to Charles Blackburn on Sun Oct 09 2022 15:34:00�� Ga> -=> Charles Blackburn wrote to Digital Man <=-�� CB>> yea i was in zone 1 he was in zone 2.� CB>> regards� CB>> Charles Blackburn� Ga> There seems to be something wrong with your Shift key.��huh ?��i might be old but im easily confused :D��regards��Charles Blackburn�===��Charles Blackburn�The F.B.O BBS 21:1/221 618:250/36�bbs.thefbo.us IPV4/V6�DOVE-Net FSX-Net MicroNET USENET� � � ��... A good man dies when a boy goes wrong.�--- SBBSecho 3.15-Linux� * Origin: The FBO BBS - bbs.thefbo.us (1:135/395)� � Synchronet � Vertrauen � Home of Synchronet � [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net�
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From
Digital Man@VERT to
Charles Blackburn on Sun Oct 9 16:33:09 2022
Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail� By: Charles Blackburn to Digital Man on Sun Oct 09 2022 08:12 am�� > Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail� > By: Digital Man to Charles Blackburn on Sat Oct 08 2022 19:58:30� >� > >> as of right now i found the "let user pick source address" in SCFG, but� > that's not ideal I'd love for it to� > >> automatically pickt he right FTN in a netmail.� > >> echos are working fine after the same thign was pointed out to me and� > how to fix that one :D Just netmail i've been� > >> struggling with.� > DM> The built-in netmailing feature in Synchronet has the logic to match� > DM> the source zone:net with the destination zone:net (or� > DM> just zone) automatically. Is the person netmailing you from fido� > DM> netmailing from a different zone than yours?� >� > yea i was in zone 1 he was in zone 2.��Well that explains why. Synchronet doesn't know that zone 1 and zone 2 are part of the same "network".�-- � digital man (rob)��Rush quote #1:�Danger plus survival equals fun. - Neil Peart�Norco, CA WX: 81.5�F, 47.0% humidity, 11 mph S wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs�---� � Synchronet � Vertrauen � Home of Synchronet � [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net�
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From
Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to
Charles Blackburn on Sun Oct 9 18:34:00 2022
Charles Blackburn wrote to Gamgee <=-�� CB>> yea i was in zone 1 he was in zone 2.� CB>> regards� CB>> Charles Blackburn�� Ga> There seems to be something wrong with your Shift key.�� CB> huh ?� CB> i might be old but im easily confused :D��Well.... was trying to be humorous about it... but. The Shift key. You �know, the one that when held down and then a letter key is pressed, �makes that letter appear as a CAPITALIZED letter. You know, the �generally accepted correct way to write a proper sentence in English. �The way they taught you in school.��The rest of my comment was regarding 'MRO', who also never capitalizes �anything, and well..... you know.����... So easy, a child could do it. Child sold separately.�--- MultiMail/Linux v0.52� � Synchronet � Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL�
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From
Charles Blackburn@VERT to
Gamgee on Sun Oct 9 20:49:53 2022
Re: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail� By: Gamgee to Charles Blackburn on Sun Oct 09 2022 18:34:00�� Ga> -=> Charles Blackburn wrote to Gamgee <=-�� Ga>> There seems to be something wrong with your Shift key.� CB>> huh ?� CB>> i might be old but im easily confused :D�� Ga> Well.... was trying to be humorous about it... but. The Shift key. You � Ga> know, the one that when held down and then a letter key is pressed, � Ga> makes that letter appear as a CAPITALIZED letter. You know, the ��noooo really? i thought that's what the CAPS LOCK button was for :P�� Ga> generally accepted correct way to write a proper sentence in English. � Ga> The way they taught you in school.� Ga> The rest of my comment was regarding 'MRO', who also never capitalizes anything, and well..... you know.��yea i know, but i'm too lazy to do that. it doesn't make it any less readable :D��regards�===��Charles Blackburn�The F.B.O BBS 21:1/221 618:250/36�bbs.thefbo.us IPV4/V6�DOVE-Net FSX-Net MicroNET USENET� � � ��... Milhouse, we live in the age of cooties! - Bart Simpson�--- SBBSecho 3.15-Linux� * Origin: The FBO BBS - bbs.thefbo.us (1:135/395)� � Synchronet � Vertrauen � Home of Synchronet � [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net�
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From
Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to
Charles Blackburn on Sun Oct 9 21:27:00 2022
Charles Blackburn wrote to Gamgee <=-�� Ga>> There seems to be something wrong with your Shift key.�� CB>> huh ?� CB>> i might be old but im easily confused :D�� Ga> Well.... was trying to be humorous about it... but. The Shift key. You� Ga> know, the one that when held down and then a letter key is pressed,� Ga> makes that letter appear as a CAPITALIZED letter. You know, the�� CB> noooo really? i thought that's what the CAPS LOCK button was for :P��That's similar to the Shift key, but not the same.�� Ga> generally accepted correct way to write a proper sentence in English.� Ga> The way they taught you in school.� Ga> The rest of my comment was regarding 'MRO', who also never capitalizes�anyt� CB> hing, and well..... you know.�� CB> yea i know, but i'm too lazy to do that. it doesn't make it any� CB> less readable :D��Well, actually it does.��It also makes you seem like MRO, which is not a good thing. Only people �who dropped out of school at about 4th/5th grade write like that.��Really. Do yourself a favor and write like an adult.����... He does the work of 3 Men...Moe, Larry & Curly�--- MultiMail/Linux v0.52� � Synchronet � Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL�
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From
dragon@VERT/IPTIA to
Digital Man on Sun Oct 9 23:28:46 2022
On 10/9/2022 19:33, Digital Man wrote:
Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail
By: Charles Blackburn to Digital Man on Sun Oct 09 2022 08:12 am
> yea i was in zone 1 he was in zone 2.
Well that explains why. Synchronet doesn't know that zone 1 and zone 2 are part of the same "network".
Is there a way to let Synchronet know that zones 1 through 4 are all in Fidonet?
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From
Charles Blackburn@VERT/FBOBBS to
Digital Man on Sun Oct 9 20:34:14 2022
Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail� By: Digital Man to Charles Blackburn on Sun Oct 09 2022 16:33:09�� > DM>> The built-in netmailing feature in Synchronet has the logic to match the source zone:net with the destination zone:net (or� > DM>> just zone) automatically. Is the person netmailing you from fido netmailing from a different zone than yours?�� >> yea i was in zone 1 he was in zone 2.�� DM> Well that explains why. Synchronet doesn't know that zone 1 and zone 2 are part of the same "network".��is there any way outside of "selecting manually" the origin address to do it?��for example, i noticed in (i think it was) echobbs where you specify your hubs. I have 1:xxx/xxx and 1:ALL - can i do 2:ALL ?��regards�---��Charles Blackburn�The F.B.O BBS 21:1/221 618:250/36�bbs.thefbo.us IPV4/V6�DOVE-Net FSX-Net MicroNET USENET� � � ��... A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.�---� � Synchronet � The FBO BBS - bbs.thefbo.us - A place for aviation fun....�
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From
Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to
dragon on Mon Oct 10 08:11:00 2022
dragon wrote to Digital Man <=-�� > Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail� > By: Charles Blackburn to Digital Man on Sun Oct 09 2022 08:12 am� >� > > yea i was in zone 1 he was in zone 2.�� > Well that explains why. Synchronet doesn't know that zone 1 and zone� > 2 are part of the same "network".�� dr> Is there a way to let Synchronet know that zones 1 through 4 are� dr> all in Fidonet?��Certainly. From my /sbbs/ctrl/sbbsecho.ini :��[domain:fidonet]� Zones = 1,2,3,4� DNSSuffix = binkp.net� NodeList = /sbbs/fido/nodelist/NODELIST.217��(that last line may vary according to your preferences)��You should have a "domain" declaration section for each network that �your system is connected to.����... Computer Hacker wanted. Must have own axe.�--- MultiMail/Linux v0.52� � Synchronet � Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL�
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From
Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to
Charles Blackburn on Mon Oct 10 08:14:00 2022
Charles Blackburn wrote to Digital Man <=-�� CB> Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail� CB> By: Digital Man to Charles Blackburn on Sun Oct 09 2022� CB> 16:33:09�� > DM>> The built-in netmailing feature in Synchronet has the logic to match�the� CB> source zone:net with the destination zone:net (or� > DM>> just zone) automatically. Is the person netmailing you from fido�netmail� CB> ing from a different zone than yours?�� >> yea i was in zone 1 he was in zone 2.�� DM> Well that explains why. Synchronet doesn't know that zone 1 and zone 2 are� CB> part of the same "network".�� CB> is there any way outside of "selecting manually" the origin� CB> address to do it?�� CB> for example, i noticed in (i think it was) echobbs where you� CB> specify your hubs. I have 1:xxx/xxx and 1:ALL - can i do 2:ALL ?��Yes, you certainly can, and certainly *should*.��Also, in a previous reply I made in this thread, you can/should specify �what zones belong to what networks. In your sbbsecho.ini file you �should have something similar to this:��[domain:fidonet]� Zones = 1,2,3,4� DNSSuffix = binkp.net� NodeList = /sbbs/fido/nodelist/NODELIST.217��[domain:fsxnet]� Zones = 21� DNSSuffix = fsxnet.nz� NodeList = /sbbs/fido/nodelist/FSXNET.217��etc, etc...����... Gone crazy, be back later, please leave message.�--- MultiMail/Linux v0.52� � Synchronet � Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL�
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From
Digital Man@VERT to
dragon on Mon Oct 10 10:37:32 2022
Re: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail� By: dragon to Digital Man on Sun Oct 09 2022 11:28 pm�� > Subject: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail� > @MSGID: <
63439171.39080.dove-syncdisc@bbs2.ipingthereforeiam.com>� > @REPLY: <
63435A35.48370.sync@vert.synchro.net>� > @TZ: ff10� > On 10/9/2022 19:33, Digital Man wrote:� > > Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail� > > By: Charles Blackburn to Digital Man on Sun Oct 09 2022 08:12 am� >� > > > yea i was in zone 1 he was in zone 2.� >� > > Well that explains why. Synchronet doesn't know that zone 1 and zone 2 are� > > part of the same "network".� >� > Is there a way to let Synchronet know that zones 1 through 4 are all in� > Fidonet?��Not currently. I created this issue to track this request however:�
https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/447�-- � digital man (rob)��Synchronet "Real Fact" #63:�"Baja" (name of Synchronet PCMS compiler/languege) is pronounced "ba-ha"�Norco, CA WX: 66.6�F, 90.0% humidity, 2 mph ESE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs�---� � Synchronet � Vertrauen � Home of Synchronet � [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net�
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From
Digital Man@VERT to
Gamgee on Mon Oct 10 10:38:46 2022
Re: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail� By: Gamgee to dragon on Mon Oct 10 2022 08:11 am�� > -=> dragon wrote to Digital Man <=-� >� > > Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail� > > By: Charles Blackburn to Digital Man on Sun Oct 09 2022 08:12 am� >� > > > yea i was in zone 1 he was in zone 2.� >� > > Well that explains why. Synchronet doesn't know that zone 1 and zone� > > 2 are part of the same "network".� >� > dr> Is there a way to let Synchronet know that zones 1 through 4 are� > dr> all in Fidonet?� >� > Certainly. From my /sbbs/ctrl/sbbsecho.ini :� >� > [domain:fidonet]� > Zones = 1,2,3,4� > DNSSuffix = binkp.net� > NodeList = /sbbs/fido/nodelist/NODELIST.217� >� > (that last line may vary according to your preferences)� >� > You should have a "domain" declaration section for each network that� > your system is connected to.��Synchronet (e.g. sbbs) doesn't read/use the sbbsecho.ini file, so it doesn't�know anything about FTN domains.�-- � digital man (rob)��Breaking Bad quote #51:�I did it for me. I liked it. I was good at it. And.. I was really.. I was alive�Norco, CA WX: 66.6�F, 90.0% humidity, 2 mph ESE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs�---� � Synchronet � Vertrauen � Home of Synchronet � [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net�
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From
dragon@VERT/IPTIA to
Gamgee on Mon Oct 10 14:23:08 2022
On 10/10/2022 09:11, Gamgee wrote:
dragon wrote to Digital Man <=-
dr> Is there a way to let Synchronet know that zones 1 through 4 are
dr> all in Fidonet?
Certainly. From my /sbbs/ctrl/sbbsecho.ini :
[domain:fidonet]
Zones = 1,2,3,4
DNSSuffix = binkp.net
NodeList = /sbbs/fido/nodelist/NODELIST.217
(that last line may vary according to your preferences)
You should have a "domain" declaration section for each network that
your system is connected to.
Thanks. I found this shortly after I sent my post.
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From
dragon@VERT/IPTIA to
Digital Man on Mon Oct 10 14:42:07 2022
On 10/10/2022 13:38, Digital Man wrote:
> You should have a "domain" declaration section for each network that
> your system is connected to.
Synchronet (e.g. sbbs) doesn't read/use the sbbsecho.ini file, so it doesn't know anything about FTN domains.
Wouldn't it make more sense if it did?
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From
Digital Man@VERT to
dragon on Mon Oct 10 15:19:34 2022
Re: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail� By: dragon to Digital Man on Mon Oct 10 2022 02:42 pm�� > Subject: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail� > @MSGID: <
63446782.39089.dove-syncdisc@bbs2.ipingthereforeiam.com>� > @REPLY: <
634458A6.48380.sync@vert.synchro.net>� > @TZ: ff10� > On 10/10/2022 13:38, Digital Man wrote:� >� > > > You should have a "domain" declaration section for each network that� > > > your system is connected to.� >� > > Synchronet (e.g. sbbs) doesn't read/use the sbbsecho.ini file, so it� > > doesn't know anything about FTN domains.� >� > Wouldn't it make more sense if it did?��Synchronet doesn't support 5D FTN addresses, nor do I see a need for it to, so no: I don't think it'd make more sense if sbbs used the sbbsecho.ini file for this purpsoe.�-- � digital man (rob)��Breaking Bad quote #27:�Other than Gomey here pees sitting down, here's what we know. - Hank Schrader�Norco, CA WX: 81.8�F, 55.0% humidity, 5 mph SSE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs�---� � Synchronet � Vertrauen � Home of Synchronet � [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net�
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From
Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to
Digital Man on Mon Oct 10 21:39:00 2022
Digital Man wrote to Gamgee <=-�� DM> Re: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail� DM> By: Gamgee to dragon on Mon Oct 10 2022 08:11 am�� > > Well that explains why. Synchronet doesn't know that zone 1 and zone� > > 2 are part of the same "network".�� > dr> Is there a way to let Synchronet know that zones 1 through 4 are� > dr> all in Fidonet?�� > Certainly. From my /sbbs/ctrl/sbbsecho.ini :� >� > [domain:fidonet]� > Zones = 1,2,3,4� > DNSSuffix = binkp.net� > NodeList = /sbbs/fido/nodelist/NODELIST.217� >� > (that last line may vary according to your preferences)� >� > You should have a "domain" declaration section for each network that� > your system is connected to.�� DM> Synchronet (e.g. sbbs) doesn't read/use the sbbsecho.ini file, so� DM> it doesn't know anything about FTN domains.��But.... we're talking about netmail... Isn't netmail sent with �sbbsecho? ��When I write a netmail to someone in Zone 2, the choice of originating �FTN address defaults to my Zone 1 address. Same if I write to Zone 3 or �4. If I write to Zone 21, it "knows" to default to my Zone 21 address �as originator.��<PUZZLED>����... Gone crazy, be back later, please leave message.�--- MultiMail/Linux v0.52� � Synchronet � Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL�
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From
dragon@VERT/IPTIA to
Digital Man on Mon Oct 10 22:07:38 2022
On 10/10/2022 18:19, Digital Man wrote:
Re: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail
By: dragon to Digital Man on Mon Oct 10 2022 02:42 pm
> Subject: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail
> @MSGID: <63446782.39089.dove-syncdisc@bbs2.ipingthereforeiam.com>
> @REPLY: <634458A6.48380.sync@vert.synchro.net>
> @TZ: ff10
> On 10/10/2022 13:38, Digital Man wrote:
>
> > > You should have a "domain" declaration section for each network that
> > > your system is connected to.
>
> > Synchronet (e.g. sbbs) doesn't read/use the sbbsecho.ini file, so it
> > doesn't know anything about FTN domains.
>
> Wouldn't it make more sense if it did?
Synchronet doesn't support 5D FTN addresses, nor do I see a need for it to, so no: I don't think it'd make more sense if sbbs used the sbbsecho.ini file for this purpsoe.
OK. So I must be missing something. Is it possible for a Fidonet zone
1 node to exchange netmail with a Fidonet zone 2 node via a Synchronet BBS?
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From
Digital Man@VERT to
Gamgee on Tue Oct 11 10:22:47 2022
Re: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail� By: Gamgee to Digital Man on Mon Oct 10 2022 09:39 pm�� > -=> Digital Man wrote to Gamgee <=-� >� > DM> Re: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail� > DM> By: Gamgee to dragon on Mon Oct 10 2022 08:11 am� >� > > > Well that explains why. Synchronet doesn't know that zone 1 and zone� > > > 2 are part of the same "network".� >� > > dr> Is there a way to let Synchronet know that zones 1 through 4 are� > > dr> all in Fidonet?� >� > > Certainly. From my /sbbs/ctrl/sbbsecho.ini :� >� > > [domain:fidonet]� > > Zones = 1,2,3,4� > > DNSSuffix = binkp.net� > > NodeList = /sbbs/fido/nodelist/NODELIST.217� >� > > (that last line may vary according to your preferences)� >� > > You should have a "domain" declaration section for each network that� > > your system is connected to.� >� > DM> Synchronet (e.g. sbbs) doesn't read/use the sbbsecho.ini file, so� > DM> it doesn't know anything about FTN domains.� >� > But.... we're talking about netmail... Isn't netmail sent with� > sbbsecho?��Normally, yes, but that's not strictly required. SBBSecho is the officially supported FTN tosser/scanner, but it hasn't always been the *only* one.�� > When I write a netmail to someone in Zone 2, the choice of originating� > FTN address defaults to my Zone 1 address. Same if I write to Zone 3 or� > 4. If I write to Zone 21, it "knows" to default to my Zone 21 address� > as originator.� >� > <PUZZLED>��What are you puzzled about?�-- � digital man (rob)��Sling Blade quote #19:�Doyle: I can't so much as drink a damn glass of water around a midget�Norco, CA WX: 65.0�F, 88.0% humidity, 3 mph ESE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs�---� � Synchronet � Vertrauen � Home of Synchronet � [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net�
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From
Digital Man@VERT to
dragon on Tue Oct 11 10:23:08 2022
Re: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail� By: dragon to Digital Man on Mon Oct 10 2022 10:07 pm�� > Subject: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail� > @MSGID: <
6344CFED.39091.dove-syncdisc@bbs2.ipingthereforeiam.com>� > @REPLY: <
63449A76.48383.sync@vert.synchro.net>� > @TZ: ff10� > On 10/10/2022 18:19, Digital Man wrote:� > > Re: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail� > > By: dragon to Digital Man on Mon Oct 10 2022 02:42 pm� >� > > > Subject: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail� > > > @MSGID: <
63446782.39089.dove-syncdisc@bbs2.ipingthereforeiam.com>� > > > @REPLY: <
634458A6.48380.sync@vert.synchro.net>� > > > @TZ: ff10� > > > On 10/10/2022 13:38, Digital Man wrote:� > > >� > > > > > You should have a "domain" declaration section for each network� > > that� > > > > > your system is connected to.� > > >� > > > > Synchronet (e.g. sbbs) doesn't read/use the sbbsecho.ini file, so it� > > > > doesn't know anything about FTN domains.� > > >� > > > Wouldn't it make more sense if it did?� >� > > Synchronet doesn't support 5D FTN addresses, nor do I see a need for it� > > to, so no: I don't think it'd make more sense if sbbs used the� > > sbbsecho.ini file for this purpsoe.� >� > OK. So I must be missing something. Is it possible for a Fidonet zone� > 1 node to exchange netmail with a Fidonet zone 2 node via a Synchronet BBS?��Yes, of course.�-- � digital man (rob)��Synchronet "Real Fact" #48:�Synchronet directory naming (i.e. ctrl, exec, data) was suggested by S. Deppe�Norco, CA WX: 65.0�F, 88.0% humidity, 3 mph ESE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs�---� � Synchronet � Vertrauen � Home of Synchronet � [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net�
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From
Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to
Digital Man on Tue Oct 11 17:37:00 2022
Digital Man wrote to Gamgee <=-�� DM> Re: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail� DM> By: Gamgee to Digital Man on Mon Oct 10 2022 09:39 pm�� > > dr> Is there a way to let Synchronet know that zones 1 through 4 are� > > dr> all in Fidonet?�� > > Certainly. From my /sbbs/ctrl/sbbsecho.ini :� >� > > [domain:fidonet]� > > Zones = 1,2,3,4� > > DNSSuffix = binkp.net� > > NodeList = /sbbs/fido/nodelist/NODELIST.217� >� > > You should have a "domain" declaration section for each network that� > > your system is connected to.�� > DM> Synchronet (e.g. sbbs) doesn't read/use the sbbsecho.ini file, so� > DM> it doesn't know anything about FTN domains.�� > But.... we're talking about netmail... Isn't netmail sent with� > sbbsecho?�� DM> Normally, yes, but that's not strictly required. SBBSecho is the� DM> officially supported FTN tosser/scanner, but it hasn't always� DM> been the *only* one.��Okay.... but for most (nearly all) current SBBS sysops, it's what is �being used, I'd guess. I understand what you're saying about *SBBS* not �using sbbsecho.ini, but for all intents and purposes, the *BBS system* �is using it for knowing how to send/route netmail.�� > When I write a netmail to someone in Zone 2, the choice of originating� > FTN address defaults to my Zone 1 address. Same if I write to Zone 3 or� > 4. If I write to Zone 21, it "knows" to default to my Zone 21 address� > as originator.� >� > <PUZZLED>�� DM> What are you puzzled about?��I guess I'm puzzled at how defining the FTN domains in sbbsecho.ini �isn't the correct answer to the original question about having FidoNet �know it uses Zones 1-4. It sure seems to be doing that on my system.���... Gone crazy, be back later, please leave message.�--- MultiMail/Linux v0.52� � Synchronet � Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL�
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Digital Man@VERT to
Gamgee on Tue Oct 11 16:28:08 2022
Re: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail� By: Gamgee to Digital Man on Tue Oct 11 2022 05:37 pm�� > DM> What are you puzzled about?� >� > I guess I'm puzzled at how defining the FTN domains in sbbsecho.ini� > isn't the correct answer to the original question about having FidoNet� > know it uses Zones 1-4. It sure seems to be doing that on my system.��The original question was about having Synchronet (sbbs) set the default source address to another zone within the same network/domain when replying a netmail message. I think my recent commit addresses the request.�-- � digital man (rob)��Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #52:�MUD = Multi-User Dungeon�Norco, CA WX: 75.7�F, 65.0% humidity, 3 mph SE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs�---� � Synchronet � Vertrauen � Home of Synchronet � [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net�
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Charles Blackburn@VERT/FBOBBS to
Gamgee on Tue Oct 11 16:04:34 2022
Re: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail� By: Gamgee to Charles Blackburn on Sun Oct 09 2022 21:27:00�� Ga> -=> Charles Blackburn wrote to Gamgee <=-�� Ga>>> There seems to be something wrong with your Shift key.��<CUT>�� CB>> noooo really? i thought that's what the CAPS LOCK button was for :P� Ga> That's similar to the Shift key, but not the same.��same same but different :D I get it��<CUT>�� CB>> yea i know, but i'm too lazy to do that. it doesn't make it any� CB>> less readable :D� Ga> Well, actually it does.��wanna borrow my glasses? I have a couple spare pairs :D�� Ga> It also makes you seem like MRO, which is not a good thing. Only people � Ga> who dropped out of school at about 4th/5th grade write like that.� Ga> Really. Do yourself a favor and write like an adult.��YOU KNW I COULD WRITE LIKE THIS. I MEAN I KNOW ITS SHOUTING AND ALL THAT BUT I KNOW A LOT OF ADULTS THAT WRITE LIKE THIS TOO! :D��or maybe i could just say... well if you don't like it then just don't read it.. simple as.��I learned a long time ago that if people don't like what i say or the way i type, then that's their problem not mine.��as the saying goes... "my f**ks left a long time ago and i didnt even give them out" :D��regards�---��Charles Blackburn�The F.B.O BBS 21:1/221 618:250/36�bbs.thefbo.us IPV4/V6�DOVE-Net FSX-Net MicroNET USENET� � � ��... He knew everything about literature, except how to enjoy it.�---� � Synchronet � The FBO BBS - bbs.thefbo.us - A place for aviation fun....�
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Charles Blackburn@VERT/FBOBBS to
Gamgee on Tue Oct 11 16:05:47 2022
Re: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail� By: Gamgee to dragon on Mon Oct 10 2022 08:11:00�� Ga> -=> dragon wrote to Digital Man <=-�� >> Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail� >> By: Charles Blackburn to Digital Man on Sun Oct 09 2022 08:12 am��<CUT>�� dr>> Is there a way to let Synchronet know that zones 1 through 4 are� dr>> all in Fidonet?�� Ga> Certainly. From my /sbbs/ctrl/sbbsecho.ini :�� Ga> [domain:fidonet]� Ga> Zones = 1,2,3,4� Ga> DNSSuffix = binkp.net� Ga> NodeList = /sbbs/fido/nodelist/NODELIST.217��SWEET thanks, appreciate it. I figured there had to be an easy way :D��regards�---��Charles Blackburn�The F.B.O BBS 21:1/221 618:250/36�bbs.thefbo.us IPV4/V6�DOVE-Net FSX-Net MicroNET USENET� � � ��... Mongo LIKE Candygram.�---� � Synchronet � The FBO BBS - bbs.thefbo.us - A place for aviation fun....�
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Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to
GAMGEE on Tue Oct 11 16:31:00 2022
When I write a netmail to someone in Zone 2, the choice of originating�> FTN address defaults to my Zone 1 address. Same if I write to Zone 3 or�> 4. If I write to Zone 21, it "knows" to default to my Zone 21 address�> as originator.��That may have something to do with how you set up your FTN addresses in�SCFG. If your default address is a Z1 address, it is probably going to use�that one for any other zones it does not find a match for.��There are also some settings in sbbsecho.ini, but I am not sure if it uses�those for picking the zone to put on the netmail or only to route it, i.e.��[node:2:ALL]� (stuff removed)� Route = 1:154/10�[node:3:ALL]� (stuff removed)� Route = 1:154/10�[node:4:ALL]� (stuff removed)� Route = 1:154/10��� * SLMR 2.1a * Reality-O-Meter: [\.......] Hmmph! Thought so.��---� � Synchronet � CAPCITY2 * capcity2.synchro.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/Rlogin/HTTP�
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Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to
Gamgee on Tue Oct 11 18:08:06 2022
Re: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail� By: Gamgee to Digital Man on Tue Oct 11 2022 05:37 pm�� DM>> Normally, yes, but that's not strictly required. SBBSecho is the� DM>> officially supported FTN tosser/scanner, but it hasn't always� DM>> been the *only* one.�� Ga> Okay.... but for most (nearly all) current SBBS sysops, it's what is � Ga> being used, I'd guess. I understand what you're saying about *SBBS* not � Ga> using sbbsecho.ini, but for all intents and purposes, the *BBS system* � Ga> is using it for knowing how to send/route netmail.��Yeah, that's basically how I think of it. Since sbbsecho is included with Synchronet (and I think has been since I started using Synchronet), I tend to think of sbbsecho as a component of Synchronet/SBBS. And sbbsecho seems to do the job, and I don't know of another tosser I'd rather use in place of it.��Nightfox��---� � Synchronet � Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com�
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Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to
Digital Man on Wed Oct 12 17:46:00 2022
Digital Man wrote to Gamgee <=-�� DM> Re: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail� DM> By: Gamgee to Digital Man on Tue Oct 11 2022 05:37 pm�� > DM> What are you puzzled about?�� > I guess I'm puzzled at how defining the FTN domains in sbbsecho.ini� > isn't the correct answer to the original question about having FidoNet� > know it uses Zones 1-4. It sure seems to be doing that on my system.�� DM> The original question was about having Synchronet (sbbs) set the� DM> default source address to another zone within the same� DM> network/domain when replying a netmail message. I think my recent� DM> commit addresses the request.��I've no doubt that it does.��I also believe that defining the Zones in sbbsecho.ini does that too, �with the assumption that SBBS is using sbbsecho. I understand the �dangers of making assumptions, especially when programming a complicated �beast such as what we're talking about, and why it's correct to do it �the way you have. Your efforts are very much appreciated! :-)���... Gone crazy, be back later, please leave message.�--- MultiMail/Linux v0.52� � Synchronet � Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL�
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Charles Blackburn@VERT/FBOBBS to
Dumas Walker on Fri Oct 14 16:35:12 2022
Re: Re: Automatic Network sel� By: Dumas Walker to GAMGEE on Tue Oct 11 2022 16:31:00�� >> When I write a netmail to someone in Zone 2, the choice of originating� >> FTN address defaults to my Zone 1 address. Same if I write to Zone 3 or� >> 4. If I write to Zone 21, it "knows" to default to my Zone 21 address� >> as originator.� DW> That may have something to do with how you set up your FTN addresses in� DW> SCFG. If your default address is a Z1 address, it is probably going to use that one for any other zones it does not find a� DW> match for.��yea and that's what i was thinking would happen�� DW> There are also some settings in sbbsecho.ini, but I am not sure if it uses those for picking the zone to put on the netmail� DW> or only to route it, i.e.�� DW> [node:2:ALL]� DW> (stuff removed)� DW> Route = 1:154/10� DW> [node:3:ALL]� DW> (stuff removed)� DW> Route = 1:154/10� DW> [node:4:ALL]� DW> (stuff removed)� DW> Route = 1:154/10���yea, but i dont know if that will designate the source address as opposed to the routing :D��regards�---��Charles Blackburn�The F.B.O BBS 21:1/221 618:250/36�bbs.thefbo.us IPV4/V6�DOVE-Net FSX-Net MicroNET USENET� � � ��... If you can't see the bright side, polish the dull side.�---� � Synchronet � The FBO BBS - bbs.thefbo.us - A place for aviation fun....�
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Charles Blackburn@VERT/FBOBBS to
Nightfox on Fri Oct 14 16:36:33 2022
Re: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail� By: Nightfox to Gamgee on Tue Oct 11 2022 18:08:06��� Ga>> Okay.... but for most (nearly all) current SBBS sysops, it's what is being used, I'd guess. I understand what you're� Ga>> saying about *SBBS* not using sbbsecho.ini, but for all intents and purposes, the *BBS system* � Ga>> is using it for knowing how to send/route netmail.�� Ni> Yeah, that's basically how I think of it. Since sbbsecho is included with Synchronet (and I think has been since I started� Ni> using Synchronet), I tend to think of sbbsecho as a component of Synchronet/SBBS. And sbbsecho seems to do the job, and I��yea that's why i specifically said sbbsecho, it was part of it and i was following parts of the wiki so it makes sense to use it to me :D��� Ni> don't know of another tosser I'd rather use in place of it.��as a brit, "tosser" has multiple connotations :D��regards�---��Charles Blackburn�The F.B.O BBS 21:1/221 618:250/36�bbs.thefbo.us IPV4/V6�DOVE-Net FSX-Net MicroNET USENET� � � ��... To a friends' house, the road is never long.�---� � Synchronet � The FBO BBS - bbs.thefbo.us - A place for aviation fun....�
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Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to
Charles Blackburn on Fri Oct 14 17:56:23 2022
Re: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail� By: Charles Blackburn to Nightfox on Fri Oct 14 2022 04:36 pm�� Ni> don't know of another tosser I'd rather use in place of it.�� CB> as a brit, "tosser" has multiple connotations :D��:P��Nightfox��---� � Synchronet � Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com�