Hey Rob,ããNot sure if you are following FN_SYSOP, but wanting to understsand why Ward's netmails are being processed by some tossers and bounced by others, when his netmail has zonegate addressed netmail.ããHe sent one to me, sbbsecho happily processed it and gave it to me:ããImporting /opt/sbbs/fido/nonsecure/11424351.PKT (Type 2e, 0.6KB) from 2:292/854 to 3:633/509ãWard Dossche (2:292/854) To: Deon George (3:633/509) Ward Dossche (2:292/854) To: Deon George (3:633/509) ImportedããBut when I look at the packet, the packet is addressed to me (3:633/509), but the netmail in the packet is addressed to "2/3", not "633/509". Why is this ignored? (HPT doesnt seem to be...)ãã00000000: 56 03 fd 01 e7 07 00 00 17 00 0e 00 18 00 05 00 [V...............]ã00000010: 60 09 02 00 24 01 79 02 1a 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 [`...$.y.........]ã00000020: 00 00 02 00 03 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 01 00 02 00 [................]ã00000030: 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 56 03 03 00 [............V...]ã00000040: 24 01 02 00 01 00 00 00 32 33 20 4a 61 6e 20 32 [$.......23 Jan 2]ã00000050: 33 20 20 31 34 3a 32 33 3a 30 37 00 44 65 6f 6e [3 14:23:07.Deon]ããI have the packet if you need it.ããã...ëîåïãã---ã þ Synchronet þ AnsiTEX bringing back videotex but with ANSIã

Hi deon,

On 2023-01-24 07:58:04, you wrote to Digital Man:

Not sure if you are following FN_SYSOP, but wanting to understsand why Ward's netmails are being processed by some tossers and bounced by
others, when his netmail has zonegate addressed netmail.

He sent one to me, sbbsecho happily processed it and gave it to me:

Importing /opt/sbbs/fido/nonsecure/11424351.PKT (Type 2e, 0.6KB) from 2:292/854 to 3:633/509 Ward Dossche (2:292/854) To: Deon George (3:633/509)
Ward Dossche (2:292/854) To: Deon George (3:633/509) Imported

But when I look at the packet, the packet is addressed to me (3:633/509), but the netmail in the packet is addressed to "2/3", not "633/509". Why is this ignored? (HPT doesnt seem to be...)

00000000: 56 03 fd 01 e7 07 00 00 17 00 0e 00 18 00 05 00 [V...............]
00000010: 60 09 02 00 24 01 79 02 1a 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 [`...$.y.........]
00000020: 00 00 02 00 03 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 01 00 02 00 [................]
00000030: 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 56 03 03 00 [............V...]
00000040: 24 01 02 00 01 00 00 00 32 33 20 4a 61 6e 20 32 [$.......23 Jan
2]
00000050: 33 20 20 31 34 3a 32 33 3a 30 37 00 44 65 6f 6e [3 14:23:07.Deon]

I have the packet if you need it.

What is in the INTL kludge for that mail?


Bye, Wilfred.

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Re: Re: Zonegated netmailã By: Wilfred van Velzen to deon on Mon Jan 23 2023 10:14 pmãã > What is in the INTL kludge for that mail?ããThe INTL kludge is correct as it should be, ie:ããINTL 3:633/509 2:292/854ããSo I'm using sbbsecho is being smart and opening the packet and realising that it can route to 3:633/509 directly and ignoring the address in the packet header?ããã...ëîåïãã---ã þ Synchronet þ AnsiTEX bringing back videotex but with ANSIã

Re: Zonegated netmailã By: deon to Digital Man on Tue Jan 24 2023 07:58 amãã > Hey Rob,ã >ã > Not sure if you are following FN_SYSOP,ããNot really.ãã > but wanting to understsand whyã > Ward's netmails are being processed by some tossers and bounced by others,ã > when his netmail has zonegate addressed netmail.ã >ã > He sent one to me, sbbsecho happily processed it and gave it to me:ã >ã > Importing /opt/sbbs/fido/nonsecure/11424351.PKT (Type 2e, 0.6KB) fromã > 2:292/854 to 3:633/509ã > Ward Dossche (2:292/854) To: Deon George (3:633/509) Ward Dosscheã > (2:292/854) To: Deon George (3:633/509) Importedã >ã > But when I look at the packet, the packet is addressed to me (3:633/509),ã > but the netmail in the packet is addressed to "2/3", not "633/509". Why isã > this ignored? (HPT doesnt seem to be...)ã >ã > 00000000: 56 03 fd 01 e7 07 00 00 17 00 0e 00 18 00 05 00ã > [V...............] 00000010: 60 09 02 00 24 01 79 02 1a 04 00 00 00 00 00ã > 00 [`...$.y.........] 00000020: 00 00 02 00 03 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 01 00ã > 02 00 [................] 00000030: 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 56ã > 03 03 00 [............V...] 00000040: 24 01 02 00 01 00 00 00 32 33 20 4aã > 61 6e 20 32 [$.......23 Jan 2] 00000050: 33 20 20 31 34 3a 32 33 3a 30 37ã > 00 44 65 6f 6e [3 14:23:07.Deon]ã >ã > I have the packet if you need it.ããTry using pktdump to view the packet instead. Packets contain packed messages with their own headers with destination and origin addresses. And there's kludge lines that override address information (i.e. INTL). Perhaps somebody's confused about that?ã-- ã digital man (rob)ããRush quote #80:ãHe knows changes aren't permanent, but change is .. Tom SawyerãNorco, CA WX: 55.1øF, 27.0% humidity, 1 mph SSW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Re: Zonegated netmailã By: Digital Man to deon on Mon Jan 23 2023 07:17 pmãã > Try using pktdump to view the packet instead. Packets contain packedã > messages with their own headers with destination and origin addresses. Andã > there's kludge lines that override address information (i.e. INTL). Perhapsã > somebody's confused about that?ããFor some reason I dont have pktdump - but that's OK because I wrote my own.ããBut your 2nd last statement is probably the reason.ããYour tosser (sbbsecho), actually looks inside the packet and uses the INTL instead of using the address in the packet message header? Not quite sure if that is right or wrong, but that's the behaviour?ãã(In this case, the INTL kludge has the correct destination (as it always would right?) but the packed message header has a different destination.)ããDoes it ever use the address in the packed message header?ããã...ëîåïãã---ã þ Synchronet þ AnsiTEX bringing back videotex but with ANSIã

Re: Zonegated netmailã By: deon to Digital Man on Tue Jan 24 2023 03:38 pmãã > Re: Zonegated netmailã > By: Digital Man to deon on Mon Jan 23 2023 07:17 pmã >ã > > Try using pktdump to view the packet instead. Packets contain packedã > > messages with their own headers with destination and origin addresses.ã > > And there's kludge lines that override address information (i.e. INTL).ã > > Perhaps somebody's confused about that?ã >ã > For some reason I dont have pktdump - but that's OK because I wrote my own.ããexec/pktdump, it's built automatically when you build sbbs on Linux.ãã > But your 2nd last statement is probably the reason.ã >ã > Your tosser (sbbsecho), actually looks inside the packet and uses the INTLã > instead of using the address in the packet message header? Not quite sure ifã > that is right or wrong, but that's the behaviour?ããYes.ãã > (In this case, the INTL kludge has the correct destination (as it alwaysã > would right?) but the packed message header has a different destination.)ã >ã > Does it ever use the address in the packed message header?ããIf the INTL header doesn't exist I suppose. You could look at the sourceãyourself: sbbsecho.cã-- ã digital man (rob)ããSynchronet "Real Fact" #51:ãRob Swindell was introduced to BBSing in 1982 by his older brother, Dr. SeussãNorco, CA WX: 52.6øF, 37.0% humidity, 1 mph NW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Hi deon,

On 2023-01-24 09:49:55, you wrote to me:

What is in the INTL kludge for that mail?

The INTL kludge is correct as it should be, ie:

INTL 3:633/509 2:292/854

So I'm using sbbsecho is being smart and opening the packet and realising that it can route to 3:633/509 directly and ignoring the address in the packet header?

I don't know, but it's probably something like that...

Bye, Wilfred.

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Re: Zonegated netmailã By: Digital Man to deon on Mon Jan 23 2023 09:19 pmãã > > For some reason I dont have pktdump - but that's OK because I wrote myã > > own.ã >ã > exec/pktdump, it's built automatically when you build sbbs on Linux.ããBTW: I see pktdump being "built", but I dont see it being "installed"...ããhttps://dev.dege.au/bbs/sbbs/-/jobs/3357/rawããMy build command is this:ãmake RELEASE=1 USE_DOSEMU=1 NO_X=1 JSINCLUDE=/usr/include/js JSLIB=mozjs185 SBBSDIR=/opt/sbbs installããIs this a problem with my install command, or in the Makefile?ããã...ëîåïãã---ã þ Synchronet þ AnsiTEX bringing back videotex but with ANSIã

Re: Zonegated netmailã By: deon to Digital Man on Thu Jan 26 2023 03:04 pmãã > Re: Zonegated netmailã > By: Digital Man to deon on Mon Jan 23 2023 09:19 pmã >ã > > > For some reason I dont have pktdump - but that's OK because I wrote my own.ã >ã > > exec/pktdump, it's built automatically when you build sbbs on Linux.ã >ã > BTW: I see pktdump being "built", but I dont see it being "installed"...ã >ã > https://dev.dege.au/bbs/sbbs/-/jobs/3357/rawã >ã > My build command is this:ã > make RELEASE=1 USE_DOSEMU=1 NO_X=1 JSINCLUDE=/usr/include/js JSLIB=mozjs185 SBBSDIR=/opt/sbbs installã >ã > Is this a problem with my install command, or in the Makefile?ããThere are a few makefiles in the Synchronet repo.ããThe src/sbbs3/GNUmakfile "install" target will copy all output executables and libraries to your Synchronet exec directory.ããThe install/GNUmakefile "install" target would only copy (or symlink) a seelect list of xecutables to your Synchronet exec directory. That list did not include pktdump or fmsgdump utilities, but I just committed a fix that does.ããThe install/GNUmakefile is normally a single-use install, so I'm not clear if you're re-using that makefile after an install, but that would explain why you didn't have pktdump copied or symlinked to your exec dir.ã-- ã digital man (rob)ããSling Blade quote #4:ãDoyle: wimpy-ass kids or mental retards.. she got one of each livin' with her.ãNorco, CA WX: 58.2øF, 31.0% humidity, 0 mph NNW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Re: Zonegated netmailã By: Digital Man to deon on Thu Jan 26 2023 12:25 amããHowdy,ãã > The install/GNUmakefile is normally a single-use install, so I'm not clearã > if you're re-using that makefile after an install, but that would explainã > why you didn't have pktdump copied or symlinked to your exec dir.ããSince I use Synchronet in a docker, my install is technically a first-time install everytime the container image is created as there is no existing environment to "update"/"upgrade".ããI've only known the GNUmakefile install - its what I would have learnt form the wiki the first time I started out with Synchronet. In fact, Ive not understood the purpose of the other Makefiles, and assumed they were all put of the build.ããHopefully I'm not missing out on any other utilities :)ããã...ëîåïãã---ã þ Synchronet þ AnsiTEX bringing back videotex but with ANSIã

Re: Zonegated netmailã By: deon to Digital Man on Thu Jan 26 2023 08:34 pmãã > Re: Zonegated netmailã > By: Digital Man to deon on Thu Jan 26 2023 12:25 amã >ã > Howdy,ã >ã > > The install/GNUmakefile is normally a single-use install, so I'm notã > > clear if you're re-using that makefile after an install, but that wouldã > > explain why you didn't have pktdump copied or symlinked to your exec dir.ã >ã > Since I use Synchronet in a docker, my install is technically a first-timeã > install everytime the container image is created as there is no existingã > environment to "update"/"upgrade".ããI see.ãã > I've only known the GNUmakefile install - its what I would have learnt formã > the wiki the first time I started out with Synchronet. In fact, Ive notã > understood the purpose of the other Makefiles, and assumed they were all putã > of the build.ããThe GNUmakefile you're using (install/GNUmakefile) is really more of a bootstrap script that just goes and kicks off the makes of other things before finally copying or symlinking files to your sbbs/exec dir. Those "other things" often have their own make files that do most of the work and the biggest of those is src/sbbs3/GNUmakefile which builds all the sbbs3 libraries and executables. It also has an "install" target.ãã > Hopefully I'm not missing out on any other utilities :)ããCheck the src/sbbs3/gcc.linux.*.exe.*/ output directory for anything else that might not be copied/symlinked by the install/GNUmakefile.ããfmsgdump was another Synchronet utility I noticed was not being copied or symlinked by the install/GNUmakefile.ã-- ã digital man (rob)ããThis Is Spinal Tap quote #29:ãI find lost luggage. I locate mandolin strings in the middle of Austin!ãNorco, CA WX: 61.7øF, 27.0% humidity, 9 mph SW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã