Just installed the HAM function. Does anyone know whick license pool this one covers? Although you can select the license type, there is no indication of the date of the question pool.ããthanksãthom k3hrnãAt no time do my hands leave my armsãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Barter Board - 209.150.101.43ã

Hi Thom,

In order to determine which license pool the HAM function covers, you will need to consult the documentation provided by the developer or manufacturer of the software. This information should be included in the user manual or in the product specification document.

If you are unable to locate this information, you may want to contact the developer or manufacturer directly to request assistance with determining which license pool is covered by the HAM function. They should be able to provide you with the information you need.

I hope this helps! If you have any further questions or concerns, please don't hesitate to ask.

Best regards,
Chad Jipiti

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Re: HAMã By: tlc to All on Tue Mar 07 2023 05:30:09ãã tl> Just installed the HAM function. Does anyone know whick license pool thisããDo you mean xtrn/hamtest?ãã tl> one covers? Although you can select the license type, there is noã tl> indication of the date of the question pool.ããThe last commit date shown in the git repo (imported from CVS, I presume) is June 21, 2012 for all of the pool files. Assume they were the current question pools at the time.ããThere are two perl scripts included to parse US and Canadian question pools and generate new .js files from them. If you want to update your question pools, you could download new ones and give that a go.ã ã--- ãechicken ãelectronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.comã---ã þ Synchronet þ electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.comã

Re: HAMã By: tlc to All on Tue Mar 07 2023 05:30 amãã > Just installed the HAM function. DoããNot to be pedantic here (just kidding,ãpretty sure we all love being a littleãpedantic once in a while), but "ham"ãisn't an acronym so shouldn't beãcapitalized as HAM. It's just ham. Itãwas a derogatory term used byãprofessional telegraph operators toãdescribe amateur operators (IIRC).ãã> anyone know which license pool thisã> covers?ããI would also like to know if itãcan/will be updated with the new poolãthat recently came out.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ TIRED of waiting 2 hours for a taco? GO TO TACOPRONTO.bbs.ioã

Re: HAMã By: Phigan to tlc on Tue Mar 07 2023 09:26 pmãã > Re: HAMã > By: tlc to All on Tue Mar 07 2023 05:30 amã >ã > > Just installed the HAM function. Doã >ã > Not to be pedantic here (just kidding, pretty sure we all love being aã > little pedantic once in a while), but "ham" isn't an acronym so shouldn't beã > capitalized as HAM. It's just ham.ããi've ALWAYS seen it referred to as HAM.ãã > It's just ham. It was a derogatory term used byã > professional telegraph operators to describe amateur operators (IIRC).ããthat just sounds like something someone added to wikipedia.ãwhere do you real this from? I'm pretty sure if they wanted to come up with aãderogatory term for these guys they could have done better than ham.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

//Hello Phigan,//ãã >> Just installed the HAM function. Doãã P> Not to be pedantic here (just kidding,ã P> pretty sure we all love being a littleã P> pedantic once in a while), but "ham"ã P> isn't an acronym so shouldn't beã P> capitalized as HAM. It's just ham. Itã P> was a derogatory term used byã P> professional telegraph operators toã P> describe amateur operators (IIRC).ã ãOMG, sounds like one of the posts one sees and trys to avoid on QRZ.COM What woukd you have had to say if you got a message typed on an old fashioned "Mill" as all upper case?ããNext we can debate the phrase "Freeze the balls off a Brass Monkey"ãã ãã73,ãThom LaCostaã--- WinPoint 415.0ã * Origin: Original *WinPoint* Origin! (1:153/7715.25)ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

//Hello MRO,//ããon *3/8/2023* at *7:49:59* You wrote in area *SYNCHRONET*ãto *Phigan* about *"HAM"*.ãã M> Re: HAMã M> By: Phigan to tlc on Tue Mar 07 2023 09:26 pmãã >> Re: HAMã >> By: tlc to All on Tue Mar 07 2023 05:30 amã M> >ã >> > Just installed the HAM function. Doã M> >ã >> Not to be pedantic here (just kidding, pretty sure we all love being aã >> little pedantic once in a while), but "ham" isn't an acronym so shouldn'tã >> be capitalized as HAM. It's just ham.ãã M> i've ALWAYS seen it referred to as HAM.ã >> It's just ham. It was a derogatory term used byã >> professional telegraph operators to describe amateur operators (IIRC).ãã M> that just sounds like something someone added to wikipedia. where do youã M> real this from? I'm pretty sure if they wanted to come up with aã M> derogatory term for these guys they could have done better than hamãã His historical reference is accurate. All too often we assume we knew things when we don't. But his comments are akin to beating a dead horse. ããããRegards,ãThom LaCostaã--- WinPoint 415.0ã * Origin: Original *WinPoint* Origin! (1:153/7715.25)ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

//Hello echicken,//ãããã e> There are two perl scripts included to parse US and Canadian questionã e> pools and generate new .js files from them. If you want to update yourã e> question pools, you could download new ones and give that a go. MSããWay over my pay grade. Baaring a vulcan mind-meld from the All Knowing, how do I delete if from my BBS, in order not to incure the wrath of the HAM(ham) radio operators who wish to upgrade their license?ããHopefully the AIbot will not give me a confusing and perhaps inaccurate answer.ããRegards,ãThom LaCostaã--- WinPoint 415.0ã * Origin: Original *WinPoint* Origin! (1:153/7715.25)ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Re: Re: HAMã By: Thom LaCosta to echicken on Wed Mar 08 2023 05:50:21ãã TL> Way over my pay grade. Baaring a vulcan mind-meld from the All Knowing,ã TL> how do I delete if from my BBS, in order not to incure the wrath of theã TL> HAM(ham) radio operators who wish to upgrade their license?ããYou can remove it from your External Programs list via scfg.ããThere's probably little harm in keeping it unless the user's goal is to memorize the questions and answers in the current pool. There's a chance that some of the regulatory questions in there are no longer valid, if laws have changed in the last decade, but the rest are perfectly fine tests of knowledge and may still be in today's pools.ã ã--- ãechicken ãelectronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.comã---ã þ Synchronet þ electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.comã

From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronetããOn Wed, 8 Mar 2023 05:42:44 -0500, "Thom LaCosta"ã<thom.lacosta@1:153/7715.25.remove-r22-this> did make me awaken from my chaoticãexistentialism when they didst announce:ã> To: MROã>//Hello MRO,//ã>ã>on *3/8/2023* at *7:49:59* You wrote in area *SYNCHRONET*ã>to *Phigan* about *"HAM"*.ã>ã> M> Re: HAMã> M> By: Phigan to tlc on Tue Mar 07 2023 09:26 pmã>ã> >> Re: HAMã> >> By: tlc to All on Tue Mar 07 2023 05:30 amã> M> >ã> >> > Just installed the HAM function. Doã> M> >ã> >> Not to be pedantic here (just kidding, pretty sure we all love being aã> >> little pedantic once in a while), but "ham" isn't an acronym so shouldn'tã> >> be capitalized as HAM. It's just ham.ã>ã> M> i've ALWAYS seen it referred to as HAM.ã> >> It's just ham. It was a derogatory term used byã> >> professional telegraph operators to describe amateur operators (IIRC).ã>ã> M> that just sounds like something someone added to wikipedia. where do youã> M> real this from? I'm pretty sure if they wanted to come up with aã> M> derogatory term for these guys they could have done better than hamã>ã> His historical reference is accurate. All too often we assume we knew things when we don't. But his comments are akin to beating a dead horse. ãThe reference is oft cited, yet never corroborated. For the last 4 decaes I'veãbeen in the hobby, no one has ever been able to provide one single citation toãback the claim.ãThe claim usually goes something like this:ã"Back in ye olde day of ye olde wirelss telegraphist, they didst call theãAmateur Radio community 'hams' as an inferrence they were being 'ham-fisted'ãwhilst transmitting ye olde wireless telegraphy mode using ye olde sparke gappeãtelegraphy equipment"ãThe only person that I was able to meet who was at one point in his life aãprofessional telegraphist before becoming a ham himself, told me that the wordã"ham" was just a shortened version of "amateur". Essentially "am" with an addedã"h" for emphasis. Unfortunately, he went SK back in the 80's. ãDoes one person's account mean that the claim is untrue? Of course not. ãBut as with most phrases that enter the English language, it's actual originãwill probably never TRULY be known.ãErgo, it is not worth arguing about, especially 100 years later. ãOldbieOne [TM]ãThe One Who Tells It Like It is!ãBrought to you by RetroPCã--- Synchronet 3.20a-Linux NewsLink 1.114ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Re: Re: HAMã By: Thom LaCosta to MRO on Wed Mar 08 2023 05:42 amãã > M> real this from? I'm pretty sure if they wanted to come up with aã > M> derogatory term for these guys they could have done better than hamã >ã > His historical reference is accurate. All too often we assume we knewã > things when we don't. But his comments are akin to beating a dead horse.ã >ã >ããWe don't even know what is historically accurate nowadays. things get repeated 5 times on the internet and they become facts.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Re: Re: HAMã By: info to alt.bbs.synchronet on Wed Mar 08 2023 07:47 pmãã > The reference is oft cited, yet never corroborated. For the last 4 decaesã > I've been in the hobby, no one has ever been able to provide one singleã > citation to back the claim.ã > The claim usually goes something like this:ã > "Back in ye olde day of ye olde wirelss telegraphist, they didst call theã > Amateur Radio community 'hams' as an inferrence they were being 'ham-fisted'ã > whilst transmitting ye olde wireless telegraphy mode using ye olde sparkeã > gappe telegraphy equipment"ã > The only person that I was able to meet who was at one point in his life aã > professional telegraphist before becoming a ham himself, told me that theã > word "ham" was just a shortened version of "amateur". Essentially "am" withãã these types of half falsehoods flourish in every hobby. I've seen it with fishkeeping and other breeder hobbyists. nobody is sure where it came from, but it's repeated over and over again without question.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Thom LaCosta wrote to echicken <=-ãã TL> Hopefully the AIbot will not give me a confusing and perhaps inaccurateã TL> answer.ããBetter yet, have Chad take the test for you?ããI'm studying for a certification that allows for online testing. It'sãinteresting seeing the restrictions. They need to see your surroundingsãon web cam. Eye tracking software. No looking off-camera. If yourãinternet drops, you're flunked. If you speak to anyone off camera,ãyou're flunked. If they speak to you, you're flunked. They recommend notãusing a work laptop, because of admin tools that could interfere.ããI'd almost be happier driving 45 minutes and taking it in person.ãããã... Don't give Chad a big neural networkã--- MultiMail/Win v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ .: realitycheckbbs.org :: scientia potentia est :.ã

Re: Re: HAMã By: info to alt.bbs.synchronet on Wed Mar 08 2023 07:47 pmãã > Ergo, it is not worth arguing about, especially 100 years later.ããYeah, I've definitely read about multiple origin stories for 'ham', but theãoriginal point of the sidetrack was that it isn't an acronym :).ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ TIRED of waiting 2 hours for a taco? GO TO TACOPRONTO.bbs.ioã

So, I recently did the exact same thing. I am taking CISSP onsite, but decidedãto take Security+ from home, since its a easier exam. They wanted me to doãso much, i just decided to drive the 30 mins to the testing site.ãã-Nugax (cbbs)ããã--- CyberBBS v1.0.10 2023/03/08 [Debian Linux/x64]ã * Origin: CyberBBS WHQ BBS | http://www.cyberbbs.co (1:19/40)ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Re: Re: HAMã By: poindexter FORTRAN to Thom LaCosta on Wed Mar 08 2023 07:40 amãã > I'm studying for a certification that allows for online testing. It'sã > interesting seeing the restrictions. They need to see your surroundingsã > on web cam. Eye tracking software. No looking off-camera. If yourã > internet drops, you're flunked. If you speak to anyone off camera,ã > you're flunked. If they speak to you, you're flunked. They recommend notã > using a work laptop, because of admin tools that could interfere.ã >ã > I'd almost be happier driving 45 minutes and taking it in person.ããhah. create a loop video and use minicam. if they want to talk to you just switch to live and it just looks like you had lag. i did that shit for 40 hrs training. i was laying back in my chair while my doppleganger was nodding and touching his face and looking attentive.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Re: Re: HAMã By: Phigan to info on Wed Mar 08 2023 10:02 pmãã > original point of the sidetrack was that it isn't an acronym :).ããit is now. update your books.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Re: Re: HAMã By: Phigan to info on Wed Mar 08 2023 10:02 pmãã Ph> Yeah, I've definitely read about multiple origin stories for 'ham', butã Ph> the original point of the sidetrack was that it isn't an acronym :).ããYet, as another poster said, I always see it written in uppercase as HAM.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã

Thom,ãã TL> Way over my pay grade. Baaring a vulcan mind-meld from the Allã TL> Knowing, how do I delete if from my BBS, in order not to incure theã TL> wrath of the HAM(ham) radio operators who wish to upgrade theirã TL> license?ãã You can go into SCFG under the Synchronet doors, and delete it.ãã On my BBS, I have the latest Question Pools, then recommend folks toãvarious sites to study for their Technician License, or to upgrade toãGeneral or Amateur Extra. I do not have "study deals" on the BBS.ãã As a side note, the FCC quit issuing the Novice and Advanced Licensesãon April 15, 2000...the same day the 13 WPM and 20 WPM CW tests wereãdropped from the license exams. They dropped the 5 WPM CW requirementãon Feb. 23, 2007.ãã My choice for study or upgrading, is HamTestOnline, located atãhttps://www.hamradiolicenseexam.com -- it's all web browser based,ãwith nothing to download or install...so it works on dial-up, DSL,ãbroadband, etc. -- but it's only available via web browser...noãsmartphone apps, and none are planned.ãã The subscriptions are in 6 month increments...and they cover notãonly the questions you'll see on the exam, but the concepts. So, youãare actually LEARNING something, and NOT just memorizing answers. Whenãyou get to 80% studying, start taking practice tests...and when youãstart scoring 85% or better consistently, you're ready for the exam,ãand likely will pass. ãã But, after adequate study time (I recommend no more than 2 hours aãday, or you'll burn out), and practice tests...if you still fail theãtest on exam day, send them proof of the failure (a Certificate OfãSuccessful Completion Of Examination (CSCE)) with "NONE" for theãlicense earned on it)...and they will cancel your subscription andãrefund your money (their refund rate is about 1%). Normally, onceãyou buy a study guide, it's yours...no refunds.ãã Also, the pools change once every 4 years, and in the 15 years I'veãbeen a Volunteer Examiner and Team Leader, more than once, I've hadãexaminees show up who were using a study guide that was 1, 2, or moreãcycles out of date...and that's why they failed the exam. I've alsoãnoted some of these "study guide websites" where the Question Poolsãaren't updated in a timely manner...not so with HamTestOnline. I evenãrecommend that to all examinees at my license exam sessions, which Iãdo 4 times a year.ãã For me, I studied 2 hours a day for 2 weeks from mid-July to mid-Augustã2007...going from Technician to General in 14 days, and from General toãAmateur Extra 13 days later. It was the BEST MONEY that I ever spent inãamateur radio.ããDaryl, WX4QZ, University Of Arkansas At Little Rock VE Team Liaisonãã... I CQ. Therefore, I HAM. -- DE WX4QZã=== MultiMail/Win v0.52ã--- SBBSecho 3.14-Win32ã * Origin: The Thunderbolt BBS - Little Rock, Arkansas (1:2320/33)ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Yeah, I've definitely read about multiple origin stories for 'ham', butã Ph> the original point of the sidetrack was that it isn't an acronym :).ãã To me, H.A.M stands for "Have Another Meal", and you don't call us "LateãFor Dinner". :)ãã On one of the nets I run, the Digital D-Star Food Net, one ham told ofãhis wife marianting pork chops in the InstaPot with Coca-Cola (you can get ãthem at Wal-Mart, and other placees). She then cooked them that way, andãhe said "they were the best pork chops he ever tasted".ãã After he unkeyed, another ham asked "What's your address?? I'll be thereãin 5 minutes". <G>ãã Seriously, from a file on my BBS, here's some history on the term "Ham":ãã**ãã Hamãã"Ham: a poor operator. A 'plug.'" ããThat's the definition of the word given in G. M. Dodge's "The TelegraphãInstructor" even before radio. The definition has never changed in wireãtelegraphy. The first wireless operators were landline telegraphers whoãleft their offices to go to sea, or to man the coastal stations. Theyãbrought with them their language, and much of the tradition of theirãolder profession.ããIn those early days, spark was king, and every station occupied the sameãwavelength-or, more accurately perhaps, every station occupied the wholeãspectrum with its broad spark signal. Government stations, ships, coastal ãstations, and the increasingly numerous amateur operators all competed ãfor time and signal supremacy in each other's receivers. Many of the ãamateur stations were very powerful. Two amateurs, working each other ãacross town, could effectively jam all the other operations in the area. ãWhen this happened, frustrated commercial operators would call the ship ãwhose weaker signals had been blotted out by amateurs and say "SRI OM ãTHOSE #&$!@ HAMS ARE JAMMING YOU."ããAmateurs, possibly unfamiliar with the real meaning of the term, pickedãit up and applied it to themselves in true "Yankee Doodle" fashion, andãwore it with pride. As the years advanced, the original meaning hasãcompletely disappeared.ãã-Louise Ramsey Moreau W3WRE/WB6BBO ããAnother possible source of of the term "ham" is from an article that wasãoriginally written by Gerry Crenshaw, WD4BIS, Garland, Texas.ã ãHave you ever wondered why we radio amateurs are called "HAMS"?? Well,ãaccording to the Northern Ohio Radio Society, it goes like this...ã ãThe word "Ham" was applied in 1908, and was the call letters of one ofãthe first Amateur Wireless Stations operated by some members of theãHarvard Radio Club. There were Albert S. Hyman, Bob Almy, and PeggieãMurray. At first, they called their station Hyman-Almy-Murray. Tappingãout such a long name in Morse Code soon called for revision...and theyãchanged it to HY-AL-MU, using the first two letters of each name.ã ãEarly in 1909, some confusion resulted between signals from amateurãwireless HYALMU, and a Mexican ship named HYALMO...so, they decided toãuse only the first letter of each name, and the call became HAM.ã ãIn the early pioneer unregulated days of radio, Amateur operatorsãpicked their own frequency and call letters. Then, as now...some Amateursãhad better signals than some commercial stations. The resultingãinterference finally came to the attention on Congressional committeesãin Washington...and they gave much time to proposed legislation designedãto critically limit Amateur Activity.ã ãIn 1911, Albert Hyman chose the controversial Wireless Regulation Billãas the top for his thesis at Harvard. His instructor insisted that a copyãbe sent to Senator David I. Walsh...a member of one of the committeesãhearing the bill. The Senator was so impressed, he sent for Hyman toãappear before the committee. He was put on the stand, and described howãthe little Amateur Station was built. He almost cried when he told theãcrowded committee room that if the bill went through, they would have toãclose up the station, because they could not afford the license fees, andãall the other requirements that were set up in the bill.ã ãThe debate started, and the little station HAM became a symbol of all theãlittle Amateur stations in the country crying out to be saved from menaceãand greed of the big commerical stations who did not want them around.ãFinally, the bill got to the floor of Congress, and every speaker talkedãabout the poor little station "HAM".ã ãThat's how it all got started. You will find the whole story in theãCongressional Record. Nationwide end of time, in radio, an Amateurãis a HAM.ã ãGL and 73's de Gerry, WD4BISãã**ããDaryl, WX4QZãã... I CQ. Therefore, I HAM. -- DE WX4QZã=== MultiMail/Win v0.52ã--- SBBSecho 3.14-Win32ã * Origin: The Thunderbolt BBS - Little Rock, Arkansas (1:2320/33)ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Better yet, have Chad take the test for you?ãã While some areas do offer remote testing, they still will check the photo ãID of the examinee...as with an in person session. If the VE (Volunteer ãExaminer) team certifies the passing of a license exam fraudulently, they ãlose their VE accreditations and amateur radio licenses for LIFE. Then, ãeveryone at that exam session, has their exam results VOIDED, and they ãhave to test before the FCC, or another VE Team...likely with "only one ãchance". If they fail, they likely will never be able to become an amateur ãradio operator again.ãã At the exam sessions, candidates must have:ãã1) A Federal Registration Number (FRN). You can NOT use your Social Security ãNumber (SSN) at the exam session anymore. But, to get an FRN, you have to go ãthe FCC CORES Registration site, and provide your Social Security number.ãã2) A photo ID (Drivers License, Passport, Military ID, State ID), or 2 forms ãof non-photo ID (utility bill, bank statement, piece of mail to you).ãã3) If currently or previously licensed (in the latter case, the license is ãexpired...they are only good for 10 years), the original and a copy of the ãlicense. Prior exam credit is available for those who formerly held a ãGeneral, Advanced, or Amateur Extra Class license. The Advanced Class is ãdowngraded to General, since those are no longer issued...and for those who ãheld a Novice or Technician license, they are starting over. In all cases, ãthese must take and pass the Technician exam.ãã4) If they have a Certificate Of Successful Completion of Examination (CSCE),ãthat's not reflected on their license (the CSCE is only good for 365 calendarãdays from the day of issuance), they need to bring that, or they'll have to ãtake that exam element again, even though they passed it before.ãã5) Cash, check, or money order, payable to the VEC conducting the exam (you ãcan't use credit or debit cards). If they fail the exam, a re-test of theãsame element, with a different set of questions, requires another exam fee.ãã If the candidate does not have the above items, they can NOT take the exam.ãã I was helping out at one session, where one examinee, whose license hadãlapsed, wanted the team to certify it fraudulently. I reported him to theãVEC, and the examinee failed the exam miserably both times. I told him thatã"We will NOT do that...you can take the test, or you can leave"...addingãthat "if you're pulled over by the police, and your drivers license isãexpired, they won't take kindly to that".ããDaryl, WX4QZ, University Of Arkansas At Little Rock VE Team Liaisonãã... I *CAN* type...my computer keyboard is illiterate.ã=== MultiMail/Win v0.52ã--- SBBSecho 3.14-Win32ã * Origin: The Thunderbolt BBS - Little Rock, Arkansas (1:2320/33)ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Re: Re: HAMã By: MRO to Phigan on Thu Mar 09 2023 10:12 amãã > > original point of the sidetrack was that it isn't an acronym :).ã >ã > it is now. update your books.ããOh, what does it stand for?ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ TIRED of waiting 2 hours for a taco? GO TO TACOPRONTO.bbs.ioã

Re: Re: HAMã By: Daryl Stout to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Mar 11 2023 04:00 amãã > downgraded to General, since those are no longer issued...and for those whoã > held a Novice or Technician license, they are starting over. In all cases,ã > these must take and pass the Technician exam.ããHm, a buddy of mine has a novice license and he just recently renewed it again. They don't give them out anymore, but you can still keep and renew them. You just don't have permission to talk on much.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ TIRED of waiting 2 hours for a taco? GO TO TACOPRONTO.bbs.ioã

Hm, a buddy of mine has a novice license and he just recently renewedã Ph> it again. They don't give them out anymore, but you can still keep andã Ph> renew them. You just don't have permission to talk on much.ãã That's correct. The FCC no longer issues Novice or Advanced Class amateurãradio licenses, but holders of them can renew at the appropriate time (onceãevery 10 years). ãã The late Walter Cronkite, KB2GSD (SK), was only a Novice Class licensee.ãã Last April, the FCC instituted a $35 fee for a new or renewed amateurãradio license, or for a vanity callsign change request. This has to beãpaid within 10 years of the exam, license renewal, or vanity callsignãchange request...otherwise, the grant is dismissed, and they have to thenãre-apply, and pay another $35.ãã However, there is no fee for a sequential callsign change request, orãfor a license class upgrade.ããDaryl, WX4QZ, UALR Ham Radio Club VE Team Liaisonãã... E equals I times R -- it's not just a good idea...it's The Law!!ã=== MultiMail/Win v0.52ã--- SBBSecho 3.14-Win32ã * Origin: The Thunderbolt BBS - Little Rock, Arkansas (1:2320/33)ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Re: Re: HAMã By: info to alt.bbs.synchronet on Wed Mar 08 2023 07:47 pmãã > From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronetã > ã > On Wed, 8 Mar 2023 05:42:44 -0500, "Thom LaCosta"ã > <thom.lacosta@1:153/7715.25.remove-r22-this> did make me awaken from my chaoã > existentialism when they didst announce:ã > > To: MROã > >//Hello MRO,//ã > >ã > >on *3/8/2023* at *7:49:59* You wrote in area *SYNCHRONET*ã > >to *Phigan* about *"HAM"*.ã > >ã > > M> Re: HAMã > > M> By: Phigan to tlc on Tue Mar 07 2023 09:26 pmã > >ã > > >> Re: HAMã > > >> By: tlc to All on Tue Mar 07 2023 05:30 amã > > M> >ã > > >> > Just installed the HAM function. Doã > > M> >ã > > >> Not to be pedantic here (just kidding, pretty sure we all love being aã > > >> little pedantic once in a while), but "ham" isn't an acronym so shouldnã > > >> be capitalized as HAM. It's just ham.ã > >ã > > M> i've ALWAYS seen it referred to as HAM.ã > > >> It's just hamã > > >> professional telegraph operators to describe amateur operators (IIRC).ã > >ã > > M> that just sounds like something someone added to wikipedia. where do yoã > > M> real this from? I'm pretty sure if they wanted to come up with aã > > M> derogatory term for these guys they could have done better than hamã > >ã > > His historical reference is accurate. All too often we assume we knew thiã > The reference is oft cited, yet never corroborated. For the last 4 decaes I'ã > been in the hobby, no one has ever been able to provide one single citation ã > back the claim.ã > The claim usually goes something like this:ã > "Back in ye olde day of ye olde wirelss telegraphist, they didst call theã > Amateur Radio community 'hams' as an inferrence they were being 'ham-fisted'ã > whilst transmitting ye olde wireless telegraphy mode using ye olde sparke gaã > telegraphy equipment"ã > The only person that I was able to meet who was at one point in his life aã > professional telegraphist before becoming a ham himself, told me that the woã > "ham" was just a shortened version of "amateur". Essentially "am" with an adã > "h" for emphasis. Unfortunately, he went SK back in the 80's.ã > Does one person's account mean that the claim is untrue? Of course not.ã > But as with most phrases that enter the English language, it's actual originã > will probably never TRULY be known.ã > Ergo, it is not worth arguing about, especially 100 years later.ã > OldbieOne [TM]ã > The One Who Tells It Like It is!ã > Brought to you by RetroPCããThis reminds me of an interview with a rock band regarding the origin ofãtheir name. They said the ideas or guesses the fans made up sounded betterãthan the real orgin. The same applies with a company named CMMG. The nameãis something like Central Missouri Machine Guns, however someone joked andãsaid the name is Cougar, Mustang, Maverick and Goose. Since then they usedãthe Top Gun style font in advertising, and produce a T-shirt with the quote "T ãoo close for missiles, switching to guns."ããã---ã þ Synchronet þ The Cave BBS - Since 1992 - cavebbs.homeip.netã