• logon.ans not working

    From Ebojager@VERT/OUTLAND to All on Fri Jul 7 23:33:02 2023
    Hello, so I moved on to create an ANSI logon screen, and built it in THEDRAW saved it using BLOCK Mode and sent it over to my Linux remote host via FTP.ãCopied it to my sbbs/text/menu/logon.ans and it cant find it. If I use just a text logon.msg it works ok, and if I view the logon.ans from the /sbbs/data/dirs folder where it uploads to, it views just fine from within the BBS' system bulletins menu, where I added it to the list to check. Ive been trying to look this up and everything I find seems to say it should work. My only thought might be Im using the Renegade Command Shell, could that be preventing this, and if so is there anything I can do about it?ãThank you, ããEbojagerãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Sent from OUTLAND BBSã
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ebojager on Sat Jul 8 12:48:35 2023
    Re: logon.ans not workingã By: Ebojager to All on Fri Jul 07 2023 11:33 pmãã > Hello, so I moved on to create an ANSI logon screen, and built it in THEDRAWã > saved it using BLOCK Mode and sent it over to my Linux remote host via FTP.ã > Copied it to my sbbs/text/menu/logon.ans and it cant find it. If I use justã > a text logon.msg it works ok, and if I view the logon.ans from theã > /sbbs/data/dirs folder where it uploads to, it views just fine from withinã > the BBS' system bulletins menu, where I added it to the list to check. Iveã > been trying to look this up and everything I find seems to say it shouldã > work. My only thought might be Im using the Renegade Command Shell, couldã > that be preventing this, and if so is there anything I can do about it?ã > Thank you,ã >ããis the bbs detecting your terminal type correctly?ãjust copy logon.ans over logon.ascãpeople that don't have ansi will see the ansi code, though.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã
  • From Ebojager@VERT/OUTLAND to MRO on Sat Jul 8 12:09:53 2023
    Re: logon.ans not workingã By: MRO to Ebojager on Sat Jul 08 2023 12:48 pmãã MR> is the bbs detecting your terminal type correctly?ã MR> just copy logon.ans over logon.ascã MR> people that don't have ansi will see the ansi code, though.ã ãThank you, yes the BBS does seem to detect it, as it displays if I move the file to a different location. What ended up working was manually making a new file with nano in /text/menu/logon.ans and then importing the .ans file and saving. LOL must be maybe a permision issue as the BBS is on Linux and I created the file on Windows in a DOSBox with THEDRAW.ãSeems to be working now that I know the formula. Glad you brought up the copy to .asc thing. Can I just rename the file to .asc and it will work for those who dont have ansi terminals?ããEbojagerãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Sent from OUTLAND BBSã
  • From Digital Man@VERT to Ebojager on Sat Jul 8 12:18:44 2023
    Re: logon.ans not workingã By: Ebojager to All on Fri Jul 07 2023 11:33 pmãã > Hello, so I moved on to create an ANSI logon screen, and built it in THEDRAWã > saved it using BLOCK Mode and sent it over to my Linux remote host via FTP.ã > Copied it to my sbbs/text/menu/logon.ans and it cant find it. If I use justã > a text logon.msg it works ok, and if I view the logon.ans from theã > /sbbs/data/dirs folder where it uploads to, it views just fine from withinã > the BBS' system bulletins menu, where I added it to the list to check. Iveã > been trying to look this up and everything I find seems to say it shouldã > work. My only thought might be Im using the Renegade Command Shell, couldã > that be preventing this, and if so is there anything I can do about it?ã > Thank you,ããNo, the command shell is not a factor.ã-- ã digital man (rob)ããThis Is Spinal Tap quote #33:ãNigel Tufnel: Well, so what? What's wrong with bein' sexy?ãNorco, CA WX: 77.0øF, 52.0% humidity, 0 mph ESE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
  • From Digital Man@VERT to Ebojager on Sat Jul 8 12:22:09 2023
    Re: logon.ans not workingã By: Ebojager to MRO on Sat Jul 08 2023 12:09 pmãã > Re: logon.ans not workingã > By: MRO to Ebojager on Sat Jul 08 2023 12:48 pmã >ã > MR> is the bbs detecting your terminal type correctly?ã > MR> just copy logon.ans over logon.ascã > MR> people that don't have ansi will see the ansi code, though.ã >ã > Thank you, yes the BBS does seem to detect it, as it displays if I move theã > file to a different location. What ended up working was manually making aã > new file with nano in /text/menu/logon.ans and then importing the .ans fileã > and saving. LOL must be maybe a permision issue as the BBS is on Linux and Iã > created the file on Windows in a DOSBox with THEDRAW.ã > Seems to be working now that I know the formula. Glad you brought up theã > copy to .asc thing. Can I just rename the file to .asc and it will work forã > those who dont have ansi terminals?ããNo, don't do that (copy a .ans files to .asc or .msg). Instead, use ans2asc to convert the .ans file to a .asc file and then non-ANSI terminals will see that file.ã-- ã digital man (rob)ããSling Blade quote #20:ãDoyle: Hey is this the kind of retard that drools and rubs shit in his hair?ãNorco, CA WX: 77.0øF, 52.0% humidity, 0 mph ESE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
  • From Phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to Ebojager on Sat Jul 8 11:58:16 2023
    Re: logon.ans not workingã By: Ebojager to All on Fri Jul 07 2023 11:33 pmãã > Hello, so I moved on to create an ANSI logon screen, and built it in THEDRAWã > saved it using BLOCK Mode and sent it over to my Linux remote host via FTP.ã > Copied it to my sbbs/text/menu/logon.ans and it cant find it. If I use justã > a text logon.msg it works ok, and if I view the logon.ans from theããI do an ans2asc on the ansi file and replace the logon.msg. It gets "dumbed down" for non-ansi callers.. I hadn't tried having a separate logon ansi.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ TIRED of waiting 2 hours for a taco? GO TO TACOPRONTO.bbs.ioã
  • From Ebojager@VERT/OUTLAND to Digital Man on Sat Jul 8 12:54:11 2023
    Re: logon.ans not workingã By: Digital Man to Ebojager on Sat Jul 08 2023 12:22 pmãã DM> No, don't do that (copy a .ans files to .asc or .msg). Instead, useã DM> ans2asc to convert the .ans file to a .asc file and then non-ANSIã DM> terminals will see that file.ããOk got it! I was reading about that program and now see what use it has :)ããThank you!ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Sent from OUTLAND BBSã
  • From Ebojager@VERT/OUTLAND to Digital Man on Sat Jul 8 13:06:34 2023
    Re: logon.ans not workingã By: Digital Man to Ebojager on Sat Jul 08 2023 12:22 pmãã DM> ans2asc to convert the .ans file to a .asc file and then non-ANSIããOk, I saved a block mode one on the quickest speed in THEDRAW, so only 15 lines and Im getting an Unsupported ANSI code 's' and 'u' probably on each line.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Sent from OUTLAND BBSã
  • From Digital Man@VERT to Ebojager on Sat Jul 8 15:30:28 2023
    Re: logon.ans not workingã By: Ebojager to Digital Man on Sat Jul 08 2023 01:06 pmãã > Re: logon.ans not workingã > By: Digital Man to Ebojager on Sat Jul 08 2023 12:22 pmã >ã > DM> ans2asc to convert the .ans file to a .asc file and then non-ANSIã >ã > Ok, I saved a block mode one on the quickest speed in THEDRAW, so only 15ã > lines and Im getting an Unsupported ANSI code 's' and 'u' probably on eachã > line.ããThose are save/restore cursor position codes: there is no equivalent for non-ANSI terminals, so such a file can't be converted to Ctrl-A format. Change your save options or maybe consider using PabloDraw instead which can open/edit/save Ctrl-A formatted (.msg, .asc) files directly.ã-- ã digital man (rob)ããRush quote #67:ãHe's noble enough to win the world, but weak enough to lose it .. New World ManãNorco, CA WX: 79.6øF, 50.0% humidity, 15 mph SE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ebojager on Sat Jul 8 17:11:16 2023
    Re: logon.ans not workingã By: Ebojager to MRO on Sat Jul 08 2023 12:09 pmãã > Re: logon.ans not workingã > By: MRO to Ebojager on Sat Jul 08 2023 12:48 pmã >ã > MR> is the bbs detecting your terminal type correctly?ã > MR> just copy logon.ans over logon.ascã > MR> people that don't have ansi will see the ansi code, though.ã >ã > Thank you, yes the BBS does seem to detect it, as it displays if I moveã >ã > theããno i mean does the bbs detects your terminal as being non ansi and tries to show the .msg one.ãã > created the file on Windows in a DOSBox with THEDRAW.ã > Seems to be working now that I know the formula. Glad you brought up theã > copy to .asc thing. Can I just rename the file to .asc and it will work forã > those who dont have ansi terminals?ããif you use the ascii .msg format and it has synchronet color codes, the bbsãwill strip the colors for the user if they dont support ansi.ãif you just copy over ansi to .msg file then it will display the ansi codes which their terminal can't interpret if it doesn't support ansi.ãwhich is a long shot. most people that call your bbs will have ansi support.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã
  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Ebojager on Sun Jul 9 14:43:29 2023
    Re: logon.ans not workingã By: Ebojager to MRO on Sat Jul 08 2023 12:09:53ãã Eb> Thank you, yes the BBS does seem to detect it, as it displays if I moveã Eb> the file to a different location. What ended up working was manuallyã Eb> making a new file with nano in /text/menu/logon.ans and then importing theã Eb> .ans file and saving. LOL must be maybe a permision issue as the BBS is onã Eb> Linux and I created the file on Windows in a DOSBox with THEDRAW.ã Eb> Seems to be working now that I know the formula. Glad you brought up theã Eb> copy to .asc thing. Can I just rename the file to .asc and it will workã Eb> for those who dont have ansi terminals?ããYou can use ans2msg to convert it to using synchronet color codes, as logon.msg, then it will display ascii (no colors) to those terminals and the color codes to ansi capable terminals.ããWorth noting, is TheDraw will likely be saving to a file in all capital letters, and linux is likely using a case-sensitive file system... so that's likely the problem.ã ã ã-- ãMichael J. Ryan ã+o roughneckbbs.com ãtracker1@roughneckbbs.comãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Roughneck BBS - roughneckbbs.comã
  • From Digital Man@VERT to Tracker1 on Sun Jul 9 12:54:09 2023
    Re: logon.ans not workingã By: Tracker1 to Ebojager on Sun Jul 09 2023 02:43 pmãã > Worth noting, is TheDraw will likely be saving to a file in all capitalã > letters, and linux is likely using a case-sensitive file system... so that'sã > likely the problem.ããSynchronet's internal file printing/displaying functions automatically adjust filename case on unix file systems: they're not case sensitive. So, should make no difference.ã-- ã digital man (rob)ããSynchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #78:ãsudo = Superuser DoãNorco, CA WX: 79.0øF, 53.0% humidity, 0 mph SSW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
  • From Ebojager@VERT/OUTLAND to Digital Man on Sun Jul 9 20:03:49 2023
    Re: logon.ans not workingã By: Digital Man to Tracker1 on Sun Jul 09 2023 12:54 pmãã >> Worth noting, is TheDraw will likely be saving to a file in allã >> capital letters, and linux is likely using a case-sensitive fileã DM> Synchronet's internal file printing/displaying functions automaticallyã DM> adjust filename case on unix file systems: they're not case sensitive. So,ã DM> should make no difference.ããThanks, ya I did rename them lower case. I might have to try the ans2msg next time. I ended up saving out of THEDRAW as ASCII which worked really well other than being black and white. I then just punched in the color codes.ãThe not being able to find the files unless I remade them in linux in the /text/menu directory kinda has me stumped. I do have a set permission owner in the SMC which I might try next time just for fun.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Sent from OUTLAND BBSã
  • From Digital Man@VERT to Ebojager on Sun Jul 9 20:28:48 2023
    Re: logon.ans not workingã By: Ebojager to Digital Man on Sun Jul 09 2023 08:03 pmãã > Re: logon.ans not workingã > By: Digital Man to Tracker1 on Sun Jul 09 2023 12:54 pmã >ã > >> Worth noting, is TheDraw will likely be saving to a file in allã > >> capital letters, and linux is likely using a case-sensitive fileã > DM> Synchronet's internal file printing/displaying functions automaticallyã > DM> adjust filename case on unix file systems: they're not case sensitive.ã > DM> So, should make no difference.ã >ã > Thanks, ya I did rename them lower case. I might have to try the ans2msgã > next time. I ended up saving out of THEDRAW as ASCII which worked reallyã > well other than being black and white. I then just punched in the colorã > codes.ã > The not being able to find the files unless I remade them in linux in theã > /text/menu directory kinda has me stumped. I do have a set permission ownerã > in the SMC which I might try next time just for fun.ããMaybe try using the OS shell (e.g. bash) directly. I don't think you're going to find any experience with or support for "SMC" here.ã-- ã digital man (rob)ããThis Is Spinal Tap quote #42:ãWhat day the Lord created Spinal Tap and couldn't he have rested on that day?ãNorco, CA WX: 71.8øF, 64.0% humidity, 2 mph SE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ebojager on Mon Jul 10 05:23:06 2023
    Re: logon.ans not workingã By: Ebojager to Digital Man on Sun Jul 09 2023 08:03 pmãã > Thanks, ya I did rename them lower case. I might have to try the ans2msgã > next time. I ended up saving out of THEDRAW as ASCII which worked reallyã > well other than being black and white. I then just punched in the colorã > codes.ã > The not being able to find the files unless I remade them in linux in theã > /text/menu directory kinda has me stumped. I do have a set permission ownerã > in the SMC which I might try next time just for fun.ããyou should talk to marisa. they might have a weird setup that is causing you issues.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã