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Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: module:msglistã By: digital man to wiki.synchro.net on Thu Jul 20 2023 12:20 pmããSo I updated to 3.20 from 3.19x today on my home test system.ããi got sbbsctrl.zip sbbs_run and sbbs_devããthen i ran the jsexec update.js or whatever and it said it updatedãmy user file to the tab format.ããafter that, i could not login as any existing user. when i created a new user, that one would work, but not the pre-update user.ããI had to delete all my users and truncate, login and create sysop user.ããdid i do something wrong, or is this to be expected?ãwill makeuser.js work if i try to export my old users, upgrade and then reimport them via makeuser.js ?ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Re: 3.19 to 3.20 updateã By: MRO to digital man on Fri Jul 21 2023 04:11 pmãã > Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: module:msglistã > By: digital man to wiki.synchro.net on Thu Jul 20 2023 12:20 pmã >ã > So I updated to 3.20 from 3.19x today on my home test system.ã >ã > i got sbbsctrl.zip sbbs_run and sbbs_devã >ã > then i ran the jsexec update.js or whatever and it said it updatedã > my user file to the tab format.ã >ã > after that, i could not login as any existing user. when i created a newã > user, that one would work, but not the pre-update user.ããYou should've stopped right there at "could not login". Did you look at your data/user.tab file and confirm your existing users were in there? Did you confirm you were actually running sbbs v3.20? Did you examine the log output (for any errors) at the time of login attempt?ãhttps://wiki.synchro.net/history:newuserbaseãã > I had to delete all my users and truncate, login and create sysop user.ã >ã > did i do something wrong, or is this to be expected?ããThat is not expected or happening to anyone else, so I suspect you did something wrong.ãã > will makeuser.js work if i try to export my old users, upgrade and thenã > reimport them via makeuser.js ?ããDon't do that. Just delete your data/user.tab file and run 'jsexec update' again. That'll run exec/upgrade_to_v320 and import the "old users" into the new file base (user.tab). Or you can can just run exec/upgrade_to_v320 again. Either way.ã-- ã digital man (rob)ããThis Is Spinal Tap quote #18:ãSustain, listen to it. Don't hear anything. You would though were it playing.ãNorco, CA WX: 89.2øF, 34.0% humidity, 7 mph SSE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Re: 3.19 to 3.20 updateã By: MRO to digital man on Fri Jul 21 2023 04:11 pmãã > i got sbbsctrl.zip sbbs_run and sbbs_devããsbbs_run.* contains all the same files as sbbsctrl.zip, so that's not necessary.ã-- ã digital man (rob)ããSynchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #59:ãPET = Personal Electronic Transactor (Commodore computer)ãNorco, CA WX: 89.2øF, 34.0% humidity, 7 mph SSE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Re: 3.19 to 3.20 updateã By: Digital Man to MRO on Fri Jul 21 2023 02:58 pmãã >ã > You should've stopped right there at "could not login". Did you look at yourã > data/user.tab file and confirm your existing users were in there? Did youã > confirm you were actually running sbbs v3.20? Did you examine the log outputã > (for any errors) at the time of login attempt?ã > https://wiki.synchro.net/history:newuserbaseã >ããyeah i'm running 3.20a https://i.imgur.com/azzLJXJ.pngãi didn't look at the log output though.ãI didn't look at the user.tab fileããwhat i did was extract sbbs_dev.zip sbbs_run.zip and sbbsctrl.zip on top of my c:\sbbs\ windows installããthen i changed dir to sbbs\exec and ran jsexec.exe update.jsããhttps://i.imgur.com/uyEqVgI.pngãit looks like it worked ok from the output.ãi can unzip my backups and try again and see what logs it outputs.ãwhat log should i look atã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Re: 3.19 to 3.20 updateã By: Digital Man to MRO on Fri Jul 21 2023 02:59 pmãã > Re: 3.19 to 3.20 updateã > By: MRO to digital man on Fri Jul 21 2023 04:11 pmã >ã > > i got sbbsctrl.zip sbbs_run and sbbs_devã >ã > sbbs_run.* contains all the same files as sbbsctrl.zip, so that's notã > necessary.ããi just got 'em all to make sure i'm not missing anything.ãnobody died.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Re: 3.19 to 3.20 updateã By: MRO to Digital Man on Fri Jul 21 2023 05:49 pmãã > Re: 3.19 to 3.20 updateã > By: Digital Man to MRO on Fri Jul 21 2023 02:58 pmã >ã >ã > > You should've stopped right there at "could not login". Did you look atã > > your data/user.tab file and confirm your existing users were in there?ã > > Did you confirm you were actually running sbbs v3.20? Did you examine theã > > log output (for any errors) at the time of login attempt?ã > > https://wiki.synchro.net/history:newuserbaseã >ã >ã > yeah i'm running 3.20a https://i.imgur.com/azzLJXJ.pngã > i didn't look at the log output though.ã > I didn't look at the user.tab fileã >ã > what i did was extract sbbs_dev.zip sbbs_run.zip and sbbsctrl.zip on top ofã > my c:\sbbs\ windows installããsbbsctrl.zip (and sbbs_run.zip) contain stock v3.20 config files (e.g. main.ini), so if you did that, then when you run 'jsexec update.js' it's going to see the v3.20 config files and *not* upgrade to your v3.19 to v3.20.ãã > then i changed dir to sbbs\exec and ran jsexec.exe update.jsããThe correct instructions are here: https://wiki.synchro.net/install:devããThey do not include extracting sbbsctrl.zip into your sbbs directory tree.ãã > https://i.imgur.com/uyEqVgI.pngã > it looks like it worked ok from the output.ã > i can unzip my backups and try again and see what logs it outputs.ã > what log should i look atããThe terminal server log output would have the details of any any login failure.ã-- ã digital man (rob)ããSynchronet "Real Fact" #91:ãCaptured chat with Wayne Bell: http://wiki.synchro.net/history:waynebell_chatãNorco, CA WX: 89.0øF, 30.0% humidity, 11 mph SSE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Re: 3.19 to 3.20 updateã By: MRO to Digital Man on Fri Jul 21 2023 05:49 pmãã > Re: 3.19 to 3.20 updateã > By: Digital Man to MRO on Fri Jul 21 2023 02:59 pmã >ã > > Re: 3.19 to 3.20 updateã > > By: MRO to digital man on Fri Jul 21 2023 04:11 pmã >ã > > > i got sbbsctrl.zip sbbs_run and sbbs_devã >ã > > sbbs_run.* contains all the same files as sbbsctrl.zip, so that's notã > > necessary.ã >ã > i just got 'em all to make sure i'm not missing anything.ã > nobody died.ããSure, but the upgrade didn't work either.ã-- ã digital man (rob)ããRush quote #36:ãRaging at unreachable glory, straining at invisible chainsãNorco, CA WX: 89.0øF, 30.0% humidity, 11 mph SSE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Re: 3.19 to 3.20 updateã By: Digital Man to MRO on Fri Jul 21 2023 04:28 pmãã >ã > > then i changed dir to sbbs\exec and ran jsexec.exe update.jsã >ã > The correct instructions are here: https://wiki.synchro.net/install:devããi don't read instructions! i'm a proãã > > https://i.imgur.com/uyEqVgI.pngã > > it looks like it worked ok from the output.ã > > i can unzip my backups and try again and see what logs it outputs.ã > > what log should i look atã >ã > The terminal server log output would have the details of any any loginã > failure.ãããit said it converted the 2 users successfully but didn't.ãhttps://i.imgur.com/yNskjah.pngããso i looked at this .tab file. are you really sure you want to do this and not use something like csv?ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Re: 3.19 to 3.20 updateã By: Digital Man to MRO on Fri Jul 21 2023 04:29 pmãã > > i just got 'em all to make sure i'm not missing anything.ã > > nobody died.ã >ã > Sure, but the upgrade didn't work either.ããyeah but it lied to me and said it did.ãhttps://i.imgur.com/yNskjah.pngã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Re: 3.19 to 3.20 updateã By: MRO to Digital Man on Fri Jul 21 2023 06:36 pmãã > Re: 3.19 to 3.20 updateã > By: Digital Man to MRO on Fri Jul 21 2023 04:28 pmã >ã >ã > > > then i changed dir to sbbs\exec and ran jsexec.exe update.jsã >ã > > The correct instructions are here: https://wiki.synchro.net/install:devã >ã > i don't read instructions! i'm a proã >ã > > > https://i.imgur.com/uyEqVgI.pngã > > > it looks like it worked ok from the output.ã > > > i can unzip my backups and try again and see what logs it outputs.ã > > > what log should i look atã >ã > > The terminal server log output would have the details of any any loginã > > failure.ã >ã >ã > it said it converted the 2 users successfully but didn't.ã > https://i.imgur.com/yNskjah.pngã >ã > so i looked at this .tab file.ããAnd were the 2 users in there?ãã > are you really sure you want to do this and not use something like csv?ããYes. Comma-separate data is a bad format.ã-- ã digital man (rob)ããSynchronet "Real Fact" #11:ãDOVE-Net was originally an exclusive ("elite") WWIVnet network in O.C., CalifãNorco, CA WX: 89.5øF, 28.0% humidity, 11 mph S wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Re: 3.19 to 3.20 updateã By: MRO to Digital Man on Fri Jul 21 2023 06:36 pmãã > Re: 3.19 to 3.20 updateã > By: Digital Man to MRO on Fri Jul 21 2023 04:29 pmã >ã > > > i just got 'em all to make sure i'm not missing anything.ã > > > nobody died.ã >ã > > Sure, but the upgrade didn't work either.ã >ã > yeah but it lied to me and said it did.ã > https://i.imgur.com/yNskjah.pngããWell you did something wrong. <shrug>ã-- ã digital man (rob)ããRush quote #28:ãThe future pre-decided, detached and subdivided in the mass production zoneãNorco, CA WX: 89.5øF, 28.0% humidity, 11 mph S wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Re: 3.19 to 3.20 updateã By: Digital Man to MRO on Fri Jul 21 2023 05:32 pmãã > > so i looked at this .tab file.ã >ã > And were the 2 users in there?ã >ããI only looked at it after i deleted and truncated the user file. then i created new users.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Re: 3.19 to 3.20 updateã By: Digital Man to MRO on Fri Jul 21 2023 05:33 pmãã >ã > > yeah but it lied to me and said it did.ã > > https://i.imgur.com/yNskjah.pngã >ã > Well you did something wrong. <shrug>ããall i did was unzip the files over existing files andãgo to sbbs\exec and run jsexec.exe update.jsããsbbsctrl.exe was closed when i did this.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Re: 3.19 to 3.20 updateã By: MRO to Digital Man on Sat Jul 22 2023 07:06 amãã > Re: 3.19 to 3.20 updateã > By: Digital Man to MRO on Fri Jul 21 2023 05:33 pmã >ã >ã > > > yeah but it lied to me and said it did.ã > > > https://i.imgur.com/yNskjah.pngã >ã > > Well you did something wrong. <shrug>ã >ã > all i did was unzip the files over existing files andã > go to sbbs\exec and run jsexec.exe update.jsã >ã > sbbsctrl.exe was closed when i did this.ããRight, and it then "upgraded" the stock configuration files (you unzipped from sbbsctrl.zip) to v3.20, not *your* configuration files.ã-- ã digital man (rob)ããThis Is Spinal Tap quote #37:ãDavid St. Hubbins: We are Spinal Tap from the UK - you must be the USA!ãNorco, CA WX: 89.1øF, 44.0% humidity, 11 mph SSE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Re: 3.19 to 3.20 updateã By: Digital Man to MRO on Sat Jul 22 2023 01:09 pmãã >ã > > all i did was unzip the files over existing files andã > > go to sbbs\exec and run jsexec.exe update.jsã >ã > > sbbsctrl.exe was closed when i did this.ã >ã > Right, and it then "upgraded" the stock configuration files (you unzippedã > from sbbsctrl.zip) to v3.20, not *your* configuration files.ããthis is just a blank test system.ãit's not my main bbs. also i always backup before making any changes.ããI was just wondering if you knew what was going on. I'll wait until i update my real systems.ããrelax!ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

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