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Posting a message with messagebase open
From
Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to
Digital Man on Sat Jul 11 14:17:12 2015
Hi DM,ããWhile using my message reader (written in JavaScript), I've noticed that if itãhas a sub-board open with a MessageBase object and lets the user post a messageãin that sub-board, in Linux, the MessageBase object doesn't seem to get updatedãwith the number of messages in the sub-board. In Linux, it seems that I haveãto close and re-open the sub-board for it to refresh with the latestãinformation on that sub-bobard. In Windows, that doesn't seem to be the case -ãAfter posting the message, the MessageBase object seems to get updated and hasãthe correct number of messages in the sub-board. Is that a known issue? If aãJavaScript script has a sub-board open, it it generally safest to close theãsub-board before posting a message in that sub-board?ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã
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From
Psi-Jack@VERT/DECKHVN2 to
Nightfox on Sat Jul 11 21:19:17 2015
Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Sat Jul 11 2015 02:17 pmãã Ni> While using my message reader (written in JavaScript), I've noticed thatã Ni> if it has a sub-board open with a MessageBase object and lets the userã Ni> post a message in that sub-board, in Linux, the MessageBase object doesn'tã Ni> seem to get updated with the number of messages in the sub-board. InããYeah.. I've noticed this as well..ãAlong with, and it's not at all consistent, sometimes when posting a message itãjust crashes and hangs up, without ever posting the message, and I don't thinkãthis is a SlyEdit issue either as it happends just after the save occurs andãonly then. Also, Synchronet 3.16 on Linux from CVS builds.ãã)))[Psi-Jack -//- Decker]ãã... Mistrust first impulses, they are always good.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Decker's Heaven -//- bbs.deckersheaven.comã
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From
Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to
Psi-Jack on Sat Jul 11 20:37:48 2015
Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã By: Psi-Jack to Nightfox on Sat Jul 11 2015 21:19:17ãã Ni>> While using my message reader (written in JavaScript), I've noticedã Ni>> that if it has a sub-board open with a MessageBase object and letsã Ni>> the user post a message in that sub-board, in Linux, the MessageBaseã Ni>> object doesn't seem to get updated with the number of messages inã Ni>> the sub-board. In ãã Ps> Yeah.. I've noticed this as well..ã Ps> Along with, and it's not at all consistent, sometimes when posting aã Ps> message it just crashes and hangs up, without ever posting the message,ã Ps> and I don't think this is a SlyEdit issue either as it happends just afterã Ps> the save occurs and only then.ããI've noticed that sometimes too, in Windows. It seems to happen randomly, so Iãdon't know how to reproduce it. My guess would be that if you happen to beãposting a message at the same time that the sub-board messagebase is beingãupdated (via a QWK update), maybe there's some resource conflict that causes aãcrash. I haven't verified that theory though. I made a local update to myãmessage reader to close its MessageBase object while posting a message andãre-open the MessageBase after the posting is done - That seems to allow theãtotal number of messages to be updated (in Linux), and hopefully it will makeãit more stable too. I'll release an update to my reader after more testing.ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã
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From
Psi-Jack@VERT/DECKHVN2 to
Nightfox on Sun Jul 12 16:26:53 2015
Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã By: Nightfox to Psi-Jack on Sat Jul 11 2015 08:37 pmãã Ni> Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã Ni> By: Psi-Jack to Nightfox on Sat Jul 11 2015 21:19:17ãã Ni>>> While using my message reader (written in JavaScript), I've noticedã Ni>>> that if it has a sub-board open with a MessageBase object and letsã Ni>>> the user post a message in that sub-board, in Linux, theã Ni>>> MessageBase object doesn't seem to get updated with the number ofã Ni>>> messages in the sub-board. In ãã Ps>> Yeah.. I've noticed this as well..ã Ps>> Along with, and it's not at all consistent, sometimes when posting aã Ps>> message it just crashes and hangs up, without ever posting theã Ps>> message, and I don't think this is a SlyEdit issue either as itã Ps>> happends just after the save occurs and only then.ãã Ni> I've noticed that sometimes too, in Windows. It seems to happen randomly,ã Ni> so I don't know how to reproduce it. My guess would be that if you happenã Ni> to be posting a message at the same time that the sub-board messagebase isã Ni> being updated (via a QWK update), maybe there's some resource conflictã Ni> that causes a crash. I haven't verified that theory though. I made a localã Ni> update to my message reader to close its MessageBase object while postingã Ni> a message and re-open the MessageBase after the posting is done - Thatã Ni> seems to allow the total number of messages to be updated (in Linux), andã Ni> hopefully it will make it more stable too. I'll release an update to myã Ni> reader after more testing. ããCool.. I will try it out when you do then. :)ããI'm currently testing an idea of actually running Synchronet on CentOS 7, andãso far, after grinding thoroughly through building custom RPMs for DOSEMU,ãBinkD, and Husky Tools, the main software needed for my full setup, I amãactually coming up with astonishing results.ããI even went above and beyond and made a DOS door maintenance script that wouldãparallel run through each door that was configured in the script to allowãrunning 2+ dosemu sessions at the same time one for each door, and tracking ofãeach one. ããUnfortunately the one limitation was: I ended up using 4DOS 8.00 (Freeware), toãget proper logging done. I could never get FreeDOS's command.com to allow me toãcapture the date and time into a variable to output to a logfile, but thisãallows me now to track that each door actually ran to completion, and notãaborted out in a DOSEMU crash. :Dãã)))[Psi-Jack -//- Decker]ãã... I reserve my abuse for lower life forms, like Civil Servants.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Decker's Heaven -//- bbs.deckersheaven.comã
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From
Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to
Psi-Jack on Sun Jul 12 13:50:28 2015
Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã By: Psi-Jack to Nightfox on Sun Jul 12 2015 16:26:53ãã Ps> I'm currently testing an idea of actually running Synchronet on CentOS 7,ã Ps> and so far, after grinding thoroughly through building custom RPMs forã Ps> DOSEMU, BinkD, and Husky Tools, the main software needed for my fullã Ps> setup, I am actually coming up with astonishing results.ããThat's cool. CentOS is definitely a fairly good & stable server OS (since it'sãbased on RedHat). I'm currently running Mint Linux on my BBS machine (althoughãmy BBS is running in a Windows XP VM), but I've considered possibly switchingãmy BBS over to Linux at some point. Mint Linux seems to work well forãSynchronet so far, but I had considered CentOS too.ãã Ps> I even went above and beyond and made a DOS door maintenance script thatã Ps> would parallel run through each door that was configured in the script toã Ps> allow running 2+ dosemu sessions at the same time one for each door, andã Ps> tracking of each one. ãã Ps> Unfortunately the one limitation was: I ended up using 4DOS 8.00ã Ps> (Freeware), to get proper logging done. I could never get FreeDOS'sã Ps> command.com to allow me to capture the date and time into a variable toã Ps> output to a logfile, but this allows me now to track that each doorã Ps> actually ran to completion, and not aborted out in a DOSEMU crash. :DããI'm not sure I'd consider 4DOS a limitation, since (I believe) it's fullyãcompatible with command.com. It's cool to hear that 4DOS is now freeware. Iãused to use 4DOS in the early 90s, when DOS was my primary OS, and I thought itãprovided some useful enhancements over the command.com included with MS-DOS.ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã
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From
Psi-Jack@VERT/DECKHVN2 to
Nightfox on Sun Jul 12 23:16:49 2015
Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã By: Nightfox to Psi-Jack on Sun Jul 12 2015 01:50 pmãã Ps>> I'm currently testing an idea of actually running Synchronet onã Ps>> CentOS 7, and so far, after grinding thoroughly through buildingã Ps>> custom RPMs for DOSEMU, BinkD, and Husky Tools, the main softwareã Ps>> needed for my full setup, I am actually coming up with astonishingã Ps>> results. ãã Ni> That's cool. CentOS is definitely a fairly good & stable server OS (sinceã Ni> it's based on RedHat). I'm currently running Mint Linux on my BBS machineã Ni> (although my BBS is running in a Windows XP VM), but I've consideredã Ni> possibly switching my BBS over to Linux at some point. Mint Linux seems toã Ni> work well for Synchronet so far, but I had considered CentOS too.ããHeh yeah. I've used Debian & Ubuntu, but DOSEMU on both of those would goãwonky after a few days. Still don't know actual root cause, but just odditiesãthat were major abnormalities. My CentOS 7 system I'm testing out now, andãlooking to migrate my BBS to, since it's so easy to move Synchronet around whenãneeded. Mostly I'm just trying to get away from Arch/Manjaro fully because Iãdon't want to maintain my in-house repo for them anymore, and that becomes aãsticky situation when it continues to be updated all the time.ãã Ps>> I even went above and beyond and made a DOS door maintenance scriptã Ps>> that would parallel run through each door that was configured in theã Ps>> script to allow running 2+ dosemu sessions at the same time one forã Ps>> each door, and tracking of each one. ãã Ps>> Unfortunately the one limitation was: I ended up using 4DOS 8.00ã Ps>> (Freeware), to get proper logging done. I could never get FreeDOS'sã Ps>> command.com to allow me to capture the date and time into a variableã Ps>> to output to a logfile, but this allows me now to track that eachã Ps>> door actually ran to completion, and not aborted out in a DOSEMUã Ps>> crash. :D ãã Ni> I'm not sure I'd consider 4DOS a limitation, since (I believe) it's fullyã Ni> compatible with command.com. It's cool to hear that 4DOS is now freeware.ã Ni> I used to use 4DOS in the early 90s, when DOS was my primary OS, and Iã Ni> thought it provided some useful enhancements over the command.com includedã Ni> with MS-DOS. ããI agree, but also think a limitation only because you /HAVE/ to go downloadã4DOS, install it, and move it to the DOSEMU Z drive afterwards, in order to useãmy system. But yeah, otherwise, 4DOS is awesome. Now freeware, makes it soãmuch more awesome. The simple fact that %_DATE and %_TIME existed in 4DOS butãnot FreeDOS's command.com just makes me go hmmmm... FOR in FreeDOS doesn't evenãhave /F, or any of the switches MS-DOS's FOR had. :/ The only way, with pureãMS-DOS, to extract the date and time into usable variables was to get a thirdãparty DOS program, from GNU, sed, and awk, just to export the date to a fileãand read it back in then delete the file. Horrible, horrible, HORRIBLE. ;)ããI tried CentOS before, since I'm a big user of it, and prefer RPM over anyãother package format. But, with no tools and little current knowledge at theãtime of what I'd need in order to run my BBS sanely and fully.. I opted to useãsomething that already had it all. Now that I'm well enough beyond that, I wasãable to build all the RPMs myself, so now, CentOS 7 definitely has potential.ããAnd as you say, it's rock solid as a server. I wanted to get it on CentOSãbecause most of my other VM's are already CentOS, and I wanted to be able toãmanage it with Chef like I do everything else. And because Manjaro and Archãboth, no matter than acpid was running, they would not shutdown when kvm sentãthe ACPI signal to shut down, so many times they got forced offline uncleanly.ããI think by the end of this coming week, I'll have my BBS moved over to CentOS 7ãfully, and nearly transparently, and sadly even better setup than before, sinceãI'm taking the time to make things work simply better. ãã)))[Psi-Jack -//- Decker]ãã... I like long walks, especially when they are taken by people who annoy me.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Decker's Heaven -//- bbs.deckersheaven.comã
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From
Digital Man@VERT to
Nightfox on Mon Jul 13 15:35:58 2015
Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Sat Jul 11 2015 02:17 pmãã > Hi DM,ã >ã > While using my message reader (written in JavaScript), I've noticed that ifã > it has a sub-board open with a MessageBase object and lets the user post aã > message in that sub-board, in Linux, the MessageBase object doesn't seem toã > get updated with the number of messages in the sub-board. In Linux, itã > seems that I have to close and re-open the sub-board for it to refresh withã > the latest information on that sub-bobard. In Windows, that doesn't seem toã > be the case - After posting the message, the MessageBase object seems to getã > updated and has the correct number of messages in the sub-board. Is that aã > known issue?ããNo.ãã > If a JavaScript script has a sub-board open, it it generallyã > safest to close the sub-board before posting a message in that sub-board?ããIt shouldn't matter. Are posting the message using the message base class or ãare you calling some other JS method (e.g. in the 'bbs' object) to post the ãmessage?ããIs the file system in use on Linux a shared file system (SMB/CIFS or NFS) or ãjust a local file system?ãã digital manããSynchronet "Real Fact" #25:ãThe Synchronet Web Server was written predominantly by Stephen Hurd (Deuce).ãNorco, CA WX: 85.5øF, 39.0% humidity, 12 mph ESE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
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From
Psi-Jack@VERT/DECKHVN2 to
Digital Man on Mon Jul 13 19:04:05 2015
Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Mon Jul 13 2015 03:35 pmãã DM> Is the file system in use on Linux a shared file system (SMB/CIFS or NFS)ã DM> or just a local file system?ããI can answer that one. Local. :)ãã)))[Psi-Jack -//- Decker]ãã... Superior ability breeds superior ambition. Spock, stardate 3141.9.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Decker's Heaven -//- bbs.deckersheaven.comã
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From
Digital Man@VERT to
Psi-Jack on Mon Jul 13 16:55:27 2015
Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã By: Psi-Jack to Digital Man on Mon Jul 13 2015 07:04 pmãã > Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã > By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Mon Jul 13 2015 03:35 pmã >ã > DM> Is the file system in use on Linux a shared file system (SMB/CIFS orã > DM> NFS) or just a local file system?ã >ã > I can answer that one. Local. :)ããI suspect there may need to be a buffer flush (or something comparable) added ãsomewhere. A small test case (e.g. that could just be run with jsexec) would be ãhelpful in isolating and resolving the problem.ãã digital manããSynchronet "Real Fact" #15:ãSynchronet first supported FidoNet networking (with SBBSFIDO) in 1992.ãNorco, CA WX: 84.7øF, 35.0% humidity, 19 mph SE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
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From
Psi-Jack@VERT/DECKHVN2 to
Digital Man on Mon Jul 13 21:00:09 2015
Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã By: Digital Man to Psi-Jack on Mon Jul 13 2015 04:55 pmãã > DM>> Is the file system in use on Linux a shared file system (SMB/CIFSã > DM>> or NFS) or just a local file system?ãã >> I can answer that one. Local. :)ãã DM> I suspect there may need to be a buffer flush (or something comparable)ã DM> added somewhere. A small test case (e.g. that could just be run withã DM> jsexec) would be helpful in isolating and resolving the problem.ããI'd be happy to provide anything you need. I know I see the problem myself, andãin my personal /specific/ case, if I post on the last message base of the forumãI'm looking at, it doesn't refresh until I move to a previous message then backãagain. ããMy bigger problem is random BBS drops when navigating through messages, orãfinishing a post. That's my bigger problem. Not exactly the same issue Nightfoxãis trying to track down, but a more serious issue that I think is moreãSynchronet-specific, but I cannot verify, I just know Synchronet sees aãdisconnect, and nothing else, no error, nothing.ãã)))[Psi-Jack -//- Decker]ãã... Martyrdom is the only way a person can become famous without ability.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Decker's Heaven -//- bbs.deckersheaven.comã
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From
Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to
Digital Man on Mon Jul 13 19:31:16 2015
Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Mon Jul 13 2015 15:35:58ãã >> If a JavaScript script has a sub-board open, it it generallyã >> safest to close the sub-board before posting a message in thatã >> sub-board? ãã DM> It shouldn't matter. Are posting the message using the message base classã DM> or are you calling some other JS method (e.g. in the 'bbs' object) to postã DM> the message?ããI'm calling either bbs.post_msg() or bbs.email(), depending the type ofãmessagebase (networked or private email).ãã DM> Is the file system in use on Linux a shared file system (SMB/CIFS or NFS)ã DM> or just a local file system?ããIt's a local file system.ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã
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From
Digital Man@VERT to
Nightfox on Mon Jul 13 20:07:22 2015
Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Mon Jul 13 2015 07:31 pmãã > Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã > By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Mon Jul 13 2015 15:35:58ã >ã > >> If a JavaScript script has a sub-board open, it it generallyã > >> safest to close the sub-board before posting a message in thatã > >> sub-board?ã >ã > DM> It shouldn't matter. Are posting the message using the message baseã > DM> class or are you calling some other JS method (e.g. in the 'bbs'ã > DM> object) to post the message?ã >ã > I'm calling either bbs.post_msg() or bbs.email(), depending the type ofã > messagebase (networked or private email).ã >ã > DM> Is the file system in use on Linux a shared file system (SMB/CIFS orã > DM> NFS) or just a local file system?ã >ã > It's a local file system.ããI just committed an additional file stream flush to the SMB "get status" ãfunction (in src/smblib). Please try this and if that doesn't fix it, provide ãmore details or better yet, a small script to reproduce the problem (e.g. using ãjsexec).ãã digital manããSynchronet "Real Fact" #30:ãThe Synchronet IRC server (ircd) was written in JS by Randy Sommerfeld (Cyan).ãNorco, CA WX: 76.8øF, 54.0% humidity, 5 mph SE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
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From
Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to
Digital Man on Tue Jul 14 07:58:09 2015
Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Mon Jul 13 2015 20:07:22ãã DM> I just committed an additional file stream flush to the SMB "get status" ã DM> function (in src/smblib). Please try this and if that doesn't fix it,ã DM> provide more details or better yet, a small script to reproduce theã DM> problem (e.g. using jsexec).ããI just updated and gave it a try in Linux, but I'm still seeing the issue.ãI created a small JavaScript script to try to reproduce the issue, which wouldãopen a sub-board with a MessageBase object and let the user post a messageãwhile keeping the MessageBase object open, but my test script didn't show theãissue. So I'm wondering if there's something else going on in my messageãreader causing the issue I'm seeing. I'll have to investigate it more.ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã
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From
Digital Man@VERT to
Nightfox on Tue Jul 14 16:11:08 2015
Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Tue Jul 14 2015 07:58 amãã > Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã > By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Mon Jul 13 2015 20:07:22ã >ã > DM> I just committed an additional file stream flush to the SMB "getã > DM> status" function (in src/smblib). Please try this and if that doesn'tã > DM> fix it, provide more details or better yet, a small script toã > DM> reproduce the problem (e.g. using jsexec).ã >ã > I just updated and gave it a try in Linux, but I'm still seeing the issue.ã > I created a small JavaScript script to try to reproduce the issue, whichã > would open a sub-board with a MessageBase object and let the user post aã > message while keeping the MessageBase object open, but my test script didn'tã > show the issue. So I'm wondering if there's something else going on in myã > message reader causing the issue I'm seeing. I'll have to investigate itã > more.ããLet me know if you narrow it down more.ãã digital manããSynchronet "Real Fact" #21:ãThe second ever Synchronet BBS was the Mid-Nite Hacker BBS (sysop: The Zapper).ãNorco, CA WX: 83.9øF, 47.0% humidity, 9 mph SE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
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From
Psi-Jack@VERT/DECKHVN2 to
Digital Man on Tue Jul 14 19:30:46 2015
Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Mon Jul 13 2015 08:07 pmãã > DM>> Is the file system in use on Linux a shared file system (SMB/CIFSã > DM>> or NFS) or just a local file system?ãã >> It's a local file system.ãã DM> I just committed an additional file stream flush to the SMB "get status" ã DM> function (in src/smblib). Please try this and if that doesn't fix it,ã DM> provide more details or better yet, a small script to reproduce theã DM> problem (e.g. using jsexec).ããI'll try out this, after I check a few things, then try again if I find anyãresults. ããWhat /I/ personally notice is that I randomly get dropped when posting, usuallyãduring prime time hours, when mail is being tossed the most. I wish I had aãstats generator that could produce the flow of mail, where, and everything, butãall I can do currently is with binkdstats.pl parsing binkd logs. I will fixãthis, and make more log parsers for synchronet specifically, heh.ããOne thing I'm testing now is whether I start a reply, and DOVE net processes,ãif I get dropped when I save, after it's done, and what happened during thatãprocess. New in, new out.. So far, new out alone doesn't /appear/ to be causingãissue, but inbound..ããSo if you see this reply, that means I didn't crash after posting after aãQWKnet packet. ãWhat did happen during that however was: ãevnt Finished Importing QWK Network Packet from VERT: (2 msgs) in 1 seconds (2ãmsgs/sec)ããSo, here goes. ãã)))[Psi-Jack -//- Decker]ãã... Virtue is a relative term. Spock, Friday's Child, stardate 3499.1.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Decker's Heaven -//- bbs.deckersheaven.comã
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From
Psi-Jack@VERT/DECKHVN2 to
Digital Man on Tue Jul 14 19:36:14 2015
Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã By: Psi-Jack to Digital Man on Tue Jul 14 2015 07:30 pmãã Ps> So if you see this reply, that means I didn't crash after posting after aã Ps> QWKnet packet. ã Ps> What did happen during that however was: ã Ps> evnt Finished Importing QWK Network Packet from VERT: (2 msgs) in 1ã Ps> seconds (2 msgs/sec)ããWell, that went through without dropping me.ããNext test, inbound FTN messages, as per from sbbsecho. ããResults:ãImported: 3 msgs in 0.0 sec (5806.5/min 96.8/sec)ããLet's see....ãã)))[Psi-Jack -//- Decker]ãã... Whatever it is, it won't work.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Decker's Heaven -//- bbs.deckersheaven.comã
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From
Psi-Jack@VERT/DECKHVN2 to
Digital Man on Tue Jul 14 21:11:54 2015
Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã By: Psi-Jack to Digital Man on Tue Jul 14 2015 07:36 pmãã Ps> Well, that went through without dropping me.ãã Ps> Next test, inbound FTN messages, as per from sbbsecho. ãã Ps> Results:ã Ps> Imported: 3 msgs in 0.0 sec (5806.5/min 96.8/sec)ãã Ps> Let's see....ããWell, that obviously worked.ããHowever, as I was finishing my mail run, and the new scan completed, right atãthe very same time outbound FTN NetMail was processing and I was dropped fromãthe connection.ããI am using primarily Hyper Allocation for my message bases. Though I'veãconsidered switching to Fast or Self-Packing, not knowing really what pitfallsãeach method has..ãã)))[Psi-Jack -//- Decker]ãã... That unit is a woman. A mass of conflicting impulses. Spock and Nomadãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Decker's Heaven -//- bbs.deckersheaven.comã
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From
Digital Man@VERT to
Psi-Jack on Wed Jul 15 00:08:32 2015
Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã By: Psi-Jack to Digital Man on Tue Jul 14 2015 09:11 pmãã > Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã > By: Psi-Jack to Digital Man on Tue Jul 14 2015 07:36 pmã >ã > Ps> Well, that went through without dropping me.ã >ã > Ps> Next test, inbound FTN messages, as per from sbbsecho.ã >ã > Ps> Results:ã > Ps> Imported: 3 msgs in 0.0 sec (5806.5/min 96.8/sec)ã >ã > Ps> Let's see....ã >ã > Well, that obviously worked.ã >ã > However, as I was finishing my mail run, and the new scan completed, rightã > at the very same time outbound FTN NetMail was processing and I was droppedã > from the connection.ã >ã > I am using primarily Hyper Allocation for my message bases. Though I'veã > considered switching to Fast or Self-Packing, not knowing really whatã > pitfalls each method has..ããThe message base allocation method shouldn't make any difference with the ãproblem you're describing.ããSince no one else is reporting the problem you're seeing, I suggest trying to ã"undo" some of your mods. Or just as a test, don't use of the 3rd party mods ã(e.g. message reader) you might be using.ãã digital manããSynchronet "Real Fact" #22:ãThe third ever Synchronet BBS was The Beast's Domain (sysop: King Drafus).ãNorco, CA WX: 62.1øF, 89.0% humidity, 2 mph SSE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
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From
Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to
Digital Man on Wed Jul 15 07:29:25 2015
Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã By: Digital Man to Psi-Jack on Wed Jul 15 2015 00:08:32ãã >> However, as I was finishing my mail run, and the new scan completed,ã >> right at the very same time outbound FTN NetMail was processing and Iã >> was dropped from the connection.ãã DM> The message base allocation method shouldn't make any difference with the ã DM> problem you're describing.ãã DM> Since no one else is reporting the problem you're seeing, I suggest tryingã DM> to "undo" some of your mods. Or just as a test, don't use of the 3rd partyã DM> mods (e.g. message reader) you might be using.ããI've actually seen what I think he is describing. It seems to happen when Iãreply to a message using my reader. It happens rarely and randomly, so it'sãdifficult to reproduce. I've noticed it in Windows (I think Psi-Jack isãrunning Synchronet in Linux?).ããThe other day I made a small JavaScript script that opens a sub-board with aãMessageBase object, lets a user post a message while that MessageBase object isãopen, then closes the MessageBase object. I was trying to reproduce the issueãin Linux where if a JS script has a MessageBase open and lets the user post aãmessage in that sub-board, the MessageBase wasn't getting updated as far as theãnumber of messages. I ran that small script on my Linux test setup, and whileãthat script didn't reproduce that issue, I did see it crash Synchronet multipleãtimes after I had saved my message. I tried it in my Windows Synchronet setup,ãand I didn't see it causing a crash there. This is the code (substitute theãvalue of the subCode variable with a valid sub-board code on your BBS):ããload("sbbsdefs.js");ããsubCode = "loc_general";ãvar msgbase = new MsgBase(subCode);ãif (msgbase.open())ã{ã console.print("\1n\r\n# of messages (before posting): " + msgbase.total_msgsã + "\r\n\1p");ã var msgHdr = msgbase.get_msg_header(true, msgbase.total_msgs-1, true);ã if (msgHdr != null)ã {ã bbs.post_msg(subCode, WM_NONE, msgHdr);ã console.print("\1n\r\n# of messages (after posting): " + msgbase.total_msgsã + "\r\n\1p");ã }ã msgbase.close();ã}ãããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã
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Khelair@VERT/TINFOIL to
Nightfox on Wed Jul 15 11:02:38 2015
Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã By: Nightfox to Psi-Jack on Sun Jul 12 2015 13:50:28ãã Ni> I'm not sure I'd consider 4DOS a limitation, since (I believe) it's fullyã Ni> compatible with command.com. It's cool to hear that 4DOS is now freeware.ã Ni> I used to use 4DOS in the early 90s, when DOS was my primary OS, and Iã Ni> thought it provided some useful enhancements over the command.com includedã Ni> with MS-DOS.ãã I loved 4dos. Such awesome enhancements for command.com's pointlesslyãlobotomized batch features.ãã---ãBorg Burgers: We do it our way; your way is irrelevant.ã þ Synchronet þ Tinfoil Tetrahedron BBS
telnet://tinfoil.synchro.netã
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Digital Man on Wed Jul 15 15:09:21 2015
Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã By: Digital Man to Psi-Jack on Wed Jul 15 2015 12:08 amãã >> I am using primarily Hyper Allocation for my message bases. Thoughã >> I've considered switching to Fast or Self-Packing, not knowing reallyã >> what pitfalls each method has..ãã DM> The message base allocation method shouldn't make any difference with the ã DM> problem you're describing.ãã DM> Since no one else is reporting the problem you're seeing, I suggest tryingã DM> to "undo" some of your mods. Or just as a test, don't use of the 3rd partyã DM> mods (e.g. message reader) you might be using.ããI plan to do exactly that as well, disable a few things and see. May do thatãafter I migrate to CentOS 7, maybe before. :)ãã)))[Psi-Jack -//- Decker]ãã... But, He has not one redeeming vice.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Decker's Heaven -//- bbs.deckersheaven.comã
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Nightfox on Wed Jul 15 15:16:46 2015
Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Wed Jul 15 2015 07:29 amãã DM>> The message base allocation method shouldn't make any differenceã DM>> with the problem you're describing.ãã DM>> Since no one else is reporting the problem you're seeing, I suggestã DM>> trying to "undo" some of your mods. Or just as a test, don't use ofã DM>> the 3rd party mods (e.g. message reader) you might be using.ãã Ni> I've actually seen what I think he is describing. It seems to happen whenã Ni> I reply to a message using my reader. It happens rarely and randomly, soã Ni> it's difficult to reproduce. I've noticed it in Windows (I think Psi-Jackã Ni> is running Synchronet in Linux?).ãã Ni> The other day I made a small JavaScript script that opens a sub-board withã Ni> a MessageBase object, lets a user post a message while that MessageBaseã Ni> object is open, then closes the MessageBase object. I was trying toã Ni> reproduce the issue in Linux where if a JS script has a MessageBase openã Ni> and lets the user post a message in that sub-board, the MessageBase wasn'tã Ni> getting updated as far as the number of messages. I ran that small scriptã Ni> on my Linux test setup, and while that script didn't reproduce that issue,ã Ni> I did see it crash Synchronet multiple times after I had saved my message.ã Ni> I tried it in my Windows Synchronet setup, and I didn't see it causing aã Ni> crash there. This is the code (substitute the value of the subCodeã Ni> variable with a valid sub-board code on your BBS): ãã Ni> load("sbbsdefs.js");ãã Ni> subCode = "loc_general";ã Ni> var msgbase = new MsgBase(subCode);ã Ni> if (msgbase.open())ã Ni> {ã Ni> console.print("\1n\r\n# of messages (before posting): " +ã Ni> msgbase.total_msgs ã Ni> + "\r\n\1p");ã Ni> var msgHdr = msgbase.get_msg_header(true, msgbase.total_msgs-1, true);ã Ni> if (msgHdr != null)ã Ni> {ã Ni> bbs.post_msg(subCode, WM_NONE, msgHdr);ã Ni> console.print("\1n\r\n# of messages (after posting): " +ã Ni> msgbase.total_msgs ã Ni> + "\r\n\1p");ã Ni> }ã Ni> msgbase.close();ã Ni> }ããnice! I will take this code and test to see if I can get it to re-produce it atãa faster rate, like setting it up in a loop. :DããI can just create a local test board only I have access to and see what theãresults end up being. ãã)))[Psi-Jack -//- Decker]ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Decker's Heaven -//- bbs.deckersheaven.comã
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Psi-Jack@VERT/DECKHVN2 to
Khelair on Wed Jul 15 15:18:08 2015
Re: Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã By: Khelair to Nightfox on Wed Jul 15 2015 11:02 amãã Ni>> I'm not sure I'd consider 4DOS a limitation, since (I believe) it'sã Ni>> fully compatible with command.com. It's cool to hear that 4DOS isã Ni>> now freeware. I used to use 4DOS in the early 90s, when DOS was myã Ni>> primary OS, and I thought it provided some useful enhancements overã Ni>> the command.com included with MS-DOS.ãã Kh> I loved 4dos. Such awesome enhancements for command.com's pointlesslyã Kh> lobotomized batch features.ããI will update that to say, I /love/ 4DOS, and I'm glad it's freeware now and inãmy Z:\4DOS DOSEMU drive. Totally dependant on it now with my monster setup,ãmaking maintenance much better. ãã)))[Psi-Jack -//- Decker]ãã... You can tune a piano, but you can`t tuna fish.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Decker's Heaven -//- bbs.deckersheaven.comã
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Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to
Khelair on Wed Jul 15 12:41:31 2015
I'm not sure I'd consider 4DOS a limitation, since (I believe) it'sã > Ni> fulã > Ni> Ni> compatible with command.com. It's cool to hear that 4DOS is now >ã > Ni> Ni> Ni> freeware. Ni> I used to use 4DOS in the early 90s, when DOSã > Ni> Ni> was my > Ni> primary OS, and I Ni> thought it provided someã > Ni> Ni> useful enhancements oveã > Ni> the command.com included Ni> with MS-DOS.ãã > I loved 4dos. Such awesome enhancements for command.com's pointlessly >ã > lobotomized batch features.ããI had always heard that DOS was meant to be simplified (as compared to UNIX &ãBSD, etc.) - I imagine command.com was probably made to be more simple thanãthe Bash shell.ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã
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Digital Man@VERT to
Nightfox on Wed Jul 15 16:46:12 2015
Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Tue Jul 14 2015 07:58 amãã > Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã > By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Mon Jul 13 2015 20:07:22ã >ã > DM> I just committed an additional file stream flush to the SMB "getã > DM> status" function (in src/smblib). Please try this and if that doesn'tã > DM> fix it, provide more details or better yet, a small script toã > DM> reproduce the problem (e.g. using jsexec).ã >ã > I just updated and gave it a try in Linux, but I'm still seeing the issue.ã > I created a small JavaScript script to try to reproduce the issue, whichã > would open a sub-board with a MessageBase object and let the user post aã > message while keeping the MessageBase object open, but my test script didn'tã > show the issue. So I'm wondering if there's something else going on in myã > message reader causing the issue I'm seeing. I'll have to investigate itã > more.ããI hadn't actually commited the flush call yet. I just did. Please try again.ãã digital manããSynchronet "Real Fact" #47:ãSynchronet directory naming (i.e. ctrl, exec, data) was suggested by S. Deppe.ãNorco, CA WX: 84.1øF, 42.0% humidity, 9 mph S wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
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Digital Man on Wed Jul 15 20:08:41 2015
Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Wed Jul 15 2015 16:46:12ãã > DM>> I just committed an additional file stream flush to the SMB "getã > DM>> status" function (in src/smblib). Please try this and if thatã > DM>> doesn't fix it, provide more details or better yet, a smallã > DM>> script to reproduce the problem (e.g. using jsexec).ãã DM> I hadn't actually commited the flush call yet. I just did. Please tryã DM> again. ããI updated my Synchronet build on my Linux test system, and that seems to haveãfixed the issue I was seeing.ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã
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Digital Man@VERT to
Nightfox on Wed Jul 15 21:39:41 2015
Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Wed Jul 15 2015 08:08 pmãã > Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã > By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Wed Jul 15 2015 16:46:12ã >ã > > DM>> I just committed an additional file stream flush to the SMB "getã > > DM>> status" function (in src/smblib). Please try this and if thatã > > DM>> doesn't fix it, provide more details or better yet, a smallã > > DM>> script to reproduce the problem (e.g. using jsexec).ã >ã > DM> I hadn't actually commited the flush call yet. I just did. Please tryã > DM> again.ã >ã > I updated my Synchronet build on my Linux test system, and that seems toã > have fixed the issue I was seeing.ããOkay, good. There will probably be other flush-related commits to smblib since ãthis highlights an issue with stale read-data that I was not aware of.ããThis does not explain any crashes or unintended program exits you were seeing.ãã digital manããSynchronet "Real Fact" #57:ãThe last version of Synchronet to run on MS-DOS and OS/2 was v2.30c (1999).ãNorco, CA WX: 68.1øF, 76.0% humidity, 2 mph ESE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
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Psi-Jack@VERT/DECKHVN2 to
Digital Man on Thu Jul 16 02:31:24 2015
Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Wed Jul 15 2015 09:39 pmãã >> Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã >> By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Wed Jul 15 2015 16:46:12ãã > > DM>>> I just committed an additional file stream flush to the SMBã > > DM>>> "get status" function (in src/smblib). Please try this and ifã > > DM>>> that doesn't fix it, provide more details or better yet, aã > > DM>>> small script to reproduce the problem (e.g. using jsexec).ãã > DM>> I hadn't actually commited the flush call yet. I just did. Pleaseã > DM>> try again.ãã >> I updated my Synchronet build on my Linux test system, and that seemsã >> to have fixed the issue I was seeing.ãã DM> Okay, good. There will probably be other flush-related commits to smblibã DM> since this highlights an issue with stale read-data that I was not awareã DM> of. ãã DM> This does not explain any crashes or unintended program exits you wereã DM> seeing. ããI too confirm the issue Nightfox reported is resolved. I just finishedãmigration from Manjaro to CentOS 7, and doing a lot of tests. So far, repliedãto a lot of forums, without a single hitch since the migration.. Kind of ...ãWell, very nice.. I'll continue to test and see what happends, along with usingãNightfox's earlier script he posted to do more direct tests locally. I canãeasily hammer it down on a test board to see what causes it, if anythingãanymore.ããBut, yes, thank you for fixing this issue as well. I noticed it, but thoughtãnothing of it. It would load, just had to jump back a message, then backãforwards before it would show up. Now it's instant as it should be.ããI just wonder if the same issue MAY had been causing the disconnects as well.ãAs you say, it doesn't explain it, but if it resolves it at the same time...ãã)))[Psi-Jack -//- Decker]ãã... But soft, what light through yonder tagline breaks?ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Decker's Heaven -//- bbs.deckersheaven.comã
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Digital Man@VERT to
Psi-Jack on Thu Jul 16 02:39:40 2015
Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã By: Psi-Jack to Digital Man on Thu Jul 16 2015 02:31 amãã > I just wonder if the same issue MAY had been causing the disconnects asã > well. As you say, it doesn't explain it, but if it resolves it at the sameã > time...ããI can't think of any logical connection between the two things.ãã digital manããSynchronet "Real Fact" #4:ãSynchronet version 3 for Win32 development began in 1999.ãNorco, CA WX: 61.3øF, 91.0% humidity, 1 mph ESE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
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Psi-Jack@VERT/DECKHVN2 to
Digital Man on Thu Jul 16 08:58:39 2015
Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã By: Digital Man to Psi-Jack on Thu Jul 16 2015 02:39 amãã >> I just wonder if the same issue MAY had been causing the disconnectsã >> as well. As you say, it doesn't explain it, but if it resolves it atã >> the same time...ãã DM> I can't think of any logical connection between the two things.ããYeah, definitely isn't. A message or two after this reply I made, I was droppedãjust while putting in the To, then Subject, then boom, disconnect.ããSo, Not sure. Definitely still happening, with current CVS codebase.ãã)))[Psi-Jack -//- Decker]ãã... Culture is what your butcher would have if he were a surgeon.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Decker's Heaven -//- bbs.deckersheaven.comã
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Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to
Psi-Jack on Thu Jul 16 18:46:02 2015
Hello Psi-Jack,ããOn 16 Jul 15 08:58, Psi-Jack wrote to Digital Man:ãã PJ> Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã PJ> By: Digital Man to Psi-Jack on Thu Jul 16 2015 02:39 amãã >>> I just wonder if the same issue MAY had been causing theã >>> disconnects as well. As you say, it doesn't explain it, but if itã >>> resolves it at the same time...ãã DM>> I can't think of any logical connection between the two things.ãã PJ> Yeah, definitely isn't. A message or two after this reply I made, Iã PJ> was dropped just while putting in the To, then Subject, then boom,ã PJ> disconnect.ãã PJ> So, Not sure. Definitely still happening, with current CVS codebase.ããCurrent CVS codebase here as well (except for the newly committed flush call ãthing), and I don't think I've ever seen this problem you're describing before. ãJust figured I'd throw that into the mix, FYI.ããRegards,ãNickãã--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20150715ã * Origin: thePharcyde_
telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin) (723:1/701)ã þ Synchronet þ thePharcyde_
telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin)ã
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Digital Man@VERT to
Psi-Jack on Thu Jul 16 19:06:40 2015
Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã By: Psi-Jack to Digital Man on Thu Jul 16 2015 08:58 amãã > Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã > By: Digital Man to Psi-Jack on Thu Jul 16 2015 02:39 amã >ã > >> I just wonder if the same issue MAY had been causing the disconnectsã > >> as well. As you say, it doesn't explain it, but if it resolves it atã > >> the same time...ã >ã > DM> I can't think of any logical connection between the two things.ã >ã > Yeah, definitely isn't. A message or two after this reply I made, I wasã > dropped just while putting in the To, then Subject, then boom, disconnect.ã >ã > So, Not sure. Definitely still happening, with current CVS codebase.ããDoes it happen when you don't use the custom message reader mod?ããIf it's a JS exception causing the termination, there should (normally) be some ãindication in the log output. I suppose it's possible that the script could ãhandle the exception (whatever it is) and just terminate silently, but that's ãnot normal.ãã digital manããSynchronet "Real Fact" #41:ãRob Swindell was laughed out of a FidoNet Net103 (OC, Calif.) meeting in 1992.ãNorco, CA WX: 77.5øF, 56.0% humidity, 10 mph SE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
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Psi-Jack@VERT/DECKHVN2 to
Digital Man on Fri Jul 17 00:41:23 2015
Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã By: Digital Man to Psi-Jack on Thu Jul 16 2015 07:06 pmãã > >>> I just wonder if the same issue MAY had been causing theã > >>> disconnects as well. As you say, it doesn't explain it, but if itã > >>> resolves it at the same time...ãã > DM>> I can't think of any logical connection between the two things.ãã >> Yeah, definitely isn't. A message or two after this reply I made, Iã >> was dropped just while putting in the To, then Subject, then boom,ãdisconnect. ã >> So, Not sure. Definitely still happening, with current CVS codebase.ãã DM> Does it happen when you don't use the custom message reader mod?ãã DM> If it's a JS exception causing the termination, there should (normally) beã DM> some indication in the log output. I suppose it's possible that the scriptã DM> could handle the exception (whatever it is) and just terminate silently,ã DM> but that's not normal.ããI haven't yet tried, but I'm going to be making my development shell utilizeãthe internal message systems itself, but also I'm trying something else out asãwell before I finish that. ããThe problem may actually be SyncTERM itself dropping the connection.. Aãpotential situation I pondered. ããThe way I'm currently testing this theory is sadly by using NetRunner. I hateãthis particular terminal app because it's so slow and clunky, and doesn't evenãsupport rlogin or ssh like I usually use. heh. And it's slow, even over LAN.ããSo far, though, using NetRunner, I have yet to see a single disconnect, but I'mãgoing to continue using it for the rest of this week to see. ãã)))[Psi-Jack -//- Decker]ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Decker's Heaven -//- bbs.deckersheaven.comã
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Digital Man@VERT to
Psi-Jack on Fri Jul 17 13:51:52 2015
Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã By: Psi-Jack to Digital Man on Fri Jul 17 2015 12:41 amãã > DM> Does it happen when you don't use the custom message reader mod?ã >ã > DM> If it's a JS exception causing the termination, there should (normally)ã > DM> be some indication in the log output. I suppose it's possible that theã > DM> script could handle the exception (whatever it is) and just terminateã > DM> silently, but that's not normal.ã >ã > I haven't yet tried, but I'm going to be making my development shell utilizeã > the internal message systems itself, but also I'm trying something else outã > as well before I finish that.ã >ã > The problem may actually be SyncTERM itself dropping the connection.. Aã > potential situation I pondered.ã >ã > The way I'm currently testing this theory is sadly by using NetRunner. Iã > hate this particular terminal app because it's so slow and clunky, andã > doesn't even support rlogin or ssh like I usually use. heh. And it's slow,ã > even over LAN.ã >ã > So far, though, using NetRunner, I have yet to see a single disconnect, butã > I'm going to continue using it for the rest of this week to see.ããAnd you could try different protocols in SyncTERM (e.g. Telnet instead of SSH).ãã digital manããSynchronet "Real Fact" #64:ãSynchronet can dynamically compress and uncompress message bases (using LZH).ãNorco, CA WX: 88.3øF, 38.0% humidity, 7 mph SE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
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Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to
Psi-Jack on Fri Jul 17 14:47:35 2015
The way I'm currently testing this theory is sadly by using NetRunner. ãIã > > hate this particular terminal app because it's so slow and clunky, andã > > doesn't even support rlogin or ssh like I usually use. heh. And it'sã > > slow, even over LAN.ãã > > So far, though, using NetRunner, I have yet to see a single disconnect,ã > > but I'm going to continue using it for the rest of this week to see.ãã > And you could try different protocols in SyncTERM (e.g. Telnet instead ofã > SSH).ããThat reminds me, several years ago I noticed that when I was connected to myãBBS via SSH (using SyncTerm), I would get disconnected from my BBS after someãamount of time. It didn't seem to be related to posting messages or anythingãin particular. But I noticed that seemed to be fixed in more recent builds ãof Synchronet/SyncTerm.ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã
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Deuce@VERT/SYNCNIX to
Nightfox on Fri Jul 17 16:23:00 2015
Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã By: Nightfox to Psi-Jack on Fri Jul 17 2015 02:47 pmãã > That reminds me, several years ago I noticed that when I was connected to myã > BBS via SSH (using SyncTerm), I would get disconnected from my BBS afterã > some amount of time. It didn't seem to be related to posting messages orã > anything in particular. But I noticed that seemed to be fixed in moreã > recent builds of Synchronet/SyncTerm.ããThere were some Cryptlib issues in Synchronet for sure some time ago. I don't
remember them impacting SyncTERM. But yeah, should be all fixed now (I usually
use SSH).ãã---ã
http://DuckDuckGo.com/ a better search engine that respects your privacy.ãMro is an idiot. Please ignore him, we keep hoping he'll go away.ã þ Synchronet þ My Brand-New BBS (All the cool SysOps run STOCK!)ã
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Psi-Jack@VERT/DECKHVN2 to
Digital Man on Sat Jul 18 00:37:23 2015
Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã By: Digital Man to Psi-Jack on Fri Jul 17 2015 01:51 pmãã >> The problem may actually be SyncTERM itself dropping the connection..ã >> A potential situation I pondered.ãã >> The way I'm currently testing this theory is sadly by using NetRunner.ã >> I hate this particular terminal app because it's so slow and clunky,ã >> and doesn't even support rlogin or ssh like I usually use. heh. Andã >> it's slow, even over LAN.ãã >> So far, though, using NetRunner, I have yet to see a singleã >> disconnect, but I'm going to continue using it for the rest of thisã >> week to see. ãã DM> And you could try different protocols in SyncTERM (e.g. Telnet instead ofã DM> SSH). ããSo far, so good with SyncTERM 1.0b 2015-07-15. Not 1 single hangup, yet..ãThat's using rlogin. I haven't yet changed protocols, because I'm trying toãcheck same-condition different versions, to validate.ãã)))[Psi-Jack -//- Decker]ãã... Conscience gets alot of credit that belongs to cold feet.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Decker's Heaven -//- bbs.deckersheaven.comã
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Psi-Jack@VERT/DECKHVN2 to
Nightfox on Sat Jul 18 00:38:47 2015
Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã By: Nightfox to Psi-Jack on Fri Jul 17 2015 02:47 pmãã > >> So far, though, using NetRunner, I have yet to see a singleã > >> disconnect, but I'm going to continue using it for the rest of thisã > >> week to see. ãã >> And you could try different protocols in SyncTERM (e.g. Telnet insteadã >> of SSH).ãã Ni> That reminds me, several years ago I noticed that when I was connected toã Ni> my BBS via SSH (using SyncTerm), I would get disconnected from my BBSã Ni> after some amount of time. It didn't seem to be related to postingã Ni> messages or anything in particular. But I noticed that seemed to be fixedã Ni> in more recent builds of Synchronet/SyncTerm.ããWell, I seem to be getting less random disconnects with just simply a newerãversion of SyncTERM. With cryptlib actually supplied in SyncTERM with thisãmethod, also finally /allows/ me to use ssh, too. :)ãã)))[Psi-Jack -//- Decker]ãã... The English may not like music, but they absolutely love the noise it makesãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Decker's Heaven -//- bbs.deckersheaven.comã
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Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to
Psi-Jack on Sat Jul 18 00:03:48 2015
Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã By: Psi-Jack to Digital Man on Fri Jul 17 2015 12:41 amããã > The way I'm currently testing this theory is sadly by using NetRunner. Iã > hate this particular terminal app because it's so slow and clunky, andã > doesn't even support rlogin or ssh like I usually use. heh. And it's slow,ã > even over LAN.ãã > So far, though, using NetRunner, I have yet to see a single disconnect, butã > I'm going to continue using it for the rest of this week to see. ããããyou may want to look into your hardware. netrunner's speed is just the same asãall the other clients we use.ããi've used netrunner, syncterm, qodem, mtelnet and a few others. they are allãpretty much the same in speed.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã
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Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to
Mro on Sat Jul 18 07:44:46 2015
Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã By: Mro to Psi-Jack on Sat Jul 18 2015 00:03:48ãã >> The way I'm currently testing this theory is sadly by using NetRunner.ã >> I hate this particular terminal app because it's so slow and clunky,ãã Mr> you may want to look into your hardware. netrunner's speed is just theã Mr> same as all the other clients we use.ãã Mr> i've used netrunner, syncterm, qodem, mtelnet and a few others. they areã Mr> all pretty much the same in speed.ããI've also noticed that while NetRunner is fast, it's noticeably slower thanãSyncTerm, even on my local network with my own BBS. It's as if NetRunner isãemulating a 115200 baud connection or something, whereas SyncTerm goes as fastãas the connection will allow.ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã
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Nightfox on Sat Jul 18 22:16:08 2015
Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã By: Nightfox to Mro on Sat Jul 18 2015 07:44 amããã > I've also noticed that while NetRunner is fast, it's noticeably slower thanã > SyncTerm, even on my local network with my own BBS. It's as if NetRunnerã > is emulating a 115200 baud connection or something, whereas SyncTerm goesã > as fast as the connection will allow.ãããis this on windows or linux? i'm gonna try it right now on windows.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã
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Mro on Sat Jul 18 21:15:34 2015
Re: Posting a message with messagebase openã By: Mro to Nightfox on Sat Jul 18 2015 22:16:08ãã >> I've also noticed that while NetRunner is fast, it's noticeably slowerã >> than SyncTerm, even on my local network with my own BBS. It's as ifã >> NetRunner is emulating a 115200 baud connection or something, whereasã >> SyncTerm goes as fast as the connection will allow.ãã Mr> is this on windows or linux? i'm gonna try it right now on windows.ããIt's on Windows.ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã