any one able to do some work, toss me an email so we can discuss what i needãdone and terms.ããdrakahn99@twstdt.synchro.netãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Twisted Tower - http://twstdt.synchro.net/ã

Re: java programmerã By: Drakahn99 to All on Sun Feb 07 2016 19:45:18ãã Dr> any one able to do some work, toss me an email so we can discuss what iã Dr> need done and terms.ããJava is not JavaScript. Aside from a similar name and some similar syntax,ãthey are fairly different languages.ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã

sorry, wasn't aware of the difference. though still in need of someone that canãdo the work.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Twisted Tower - http://twstdt.synchro.net/ã

Re: java programmerã By: Nightfox to Drakahn99 on Sun Feb 07 2016 07:16 pmãã > Re: java programmerã > By: Drakahn99 to All on Sun Feb 07 2016 19:45:18ãã > Dr> any one able to do some work, toss me an email so we can discuss whatã > Dr> i need done and terms.ãã > Java is not JavaScript. Aside from a similar name and some similar syntax,ã > they are fairly different languages.ãããyeah i really wish they would rename it. it was a stupid decision to ride onãthe hype of shitty java.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Re: java programmerã By: Drakahn99 to Nightfox on Wed Feb 10 2016 10:34 amãã > sorry, wasn't aware of the difference. though still in need of someone thatã > can do the work.ãããdo what work? very vague work?ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

do what work? very vague work?ããmodifying the listserver.js to add functions i would like added.ããcurrently im using feedbucket to use the rss feed on my site to generate aãbuliten list for the main page. however that cuts off the messages for the rssãfeed, however i would like to have this modified so that it shows the fullãmessage text on the main page, and drop the need for using the 3rd party site.ãin case that one goes down.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Twisted Tower - http://twstdt.synchro.net/ã

modifying the listserver.js to add functions i would like added.ããIs the functionality you want really specific to you, or do you think otherãpeople might want it as well? You could just make a feature request here andãsee if someone wants to add it.ãã> currently im using feedbucket to use the rss feed on my site to generate aã> buliten list for the main page. however that cuts off the messages for theã> rss feed, however i would like to have this modified so that it shows theã> full message text on the main page, and drop the need for using the 3rd partyã> site. in case that one goes down.ããHow is your RSS feed being generated - from a message base? There's likely aãmuch more straightforward way of doing this.ãã---ãechicken ãelectronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com - 416-273-7230ã þ Synchronet þ electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.comã

Java is not JavaScript. Aside from a similar name and some similarã > > syntax, they are fairly different languages.ããã > yeah i really wish they would rename it. it was a stupid decision to ãride onã > the hype of shitty java.ããDespite whether one thinks Java is good or not, Java is used for many ãthings, from embedded devices to smart phones, etc.. Java is the standardãlanguage for Android apps, and there are many Android devices on the ãmarket. I've heard Microsoft Visual Studio now allows developing Android ãapps with their C# language (and even with JavaScript), but as for the ãAndroid standard development tools, Java is the language.ããI think the main reason Java was chosen for Android app development is thatãJava runs in a virtual machine, and an Android device could potentiallyãcontain any processor in it. And indeed, there are Android devices on theãmarket with ARM and Intel processors. Since Java runs in a virtual ãmachine, Android apps can (generally) run on any Android device. It isãpossible to write lower-level code for Android in C++ when needed, and suchãcode would need to be separately built for ARM and Intel and other ãprocessors, but Android apps written purely in Java should be able to run ãon any Android device.ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã

Drakahn99 wrote to Mro <=-ãã > do what work? very vague work?ãã Dr> modifying the listserver.js to add functions i would like added.ãã Dr> currently im using feedbucket to use the rss feed on my site toã Dr> generate a buliten list for the main page. however that cuts off theã Dr> messages for the rss feed, however i would like to have this modifiedã Dr> so that it shows the full message text on the main page, and drop theã Dr> need for using the 3rd party site. in case that one goes down.ããSynchronet already has an RSS importer. Web_feed_importer.js will do what youãask. ããã--ããBillããTelnet: tequilamockingbirdonline.netãWeb: bbs.tequilamockingbirdonline.netãFTP: ftp.tequilamockingbirdonline.net:2121ãIRC: irc.tequilamockingbirdonline.net Ports: 6661-6670 SSL: +6697ãRadio: radio.tequilamockingbirdonline.net:8010/liveããã... Look Twice... Save a Life!!! Motorcycles are Everywhere!!!ã--- MultiMail/Win32 v0.50ã þ Synchronet þ TequilaMockingbird Online - Toms River, NJã

Re: java programmerã By: Nightfox to Mro on Thu Feb 11 2016 11:53 amãã > > yeah i really wish they would rename it. it was a stupid decision to ã > ride onã > > the hype of shitty java.ãã > Despite whether one thinks Java is good or not, Java is used for manyã > things, from embedded devices to smart phones, etc.. Java is the standardã > language for Android apps, and there are many Android devices on the ãããit's good because it's cross platform. you would never ever run it onãa windows system and i'd have to think long and hard before running it onãanything other than a smart phone.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Is the functionality you want really specific to you, or do you think otherã> people might want it as well? You could just make a feature request here andã> see if someone wants to add it.ã ãsimilar to areafix for fidonet, so that i could add a sub and designate someoneãas a list moderator or something who would then maintain the list, doing thingsãlike invite, kick, ect. personally id be using it for pbem rpg games, and localãgaming groups to be able to coordinate their activities using email. and keep aãlog on the sub board of activities. ãthe script would also use an areas.bbs list to designate what areas are able toãbe added, and add the apropriate ini configuration files without needing to goãin manually adding each entry for every list carried on the site.ãã> How is your RSS feed being generated - from a message base? There's likely aã> much more straightforward way of doing this.ãããrss.ssjsãhttp://twstdt.synchro.net/rss.ssjs?channel=Bulletinsãusing a bit of code from feedbucket it grabs the above rss feed and inserts theãtext into my main page.ããis there an easier way of adding information onto the main page without editingãthe html code each time?ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Twisted Tower - http://twstdt.synchro.net/ã

rss.ssjsã> http://twstdt.synchro.net/rss.ssjs?channel=Bulletinsã> using a bit of code from feedbucket it grabs the above rss feed and insertsã> the text into my main page.ãã> is there an easier way of adding information onto the main page withoutã> editing the html code each time?ããYes, I have something for that. Will post it somewhere for you, probablyãtomorrow.ãã---ãechicken ãelectronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com - 416-273-7230ã þ Synchronet þ electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.comã

Synchronet already has an RSS importer. Web_feed_importer.js will do whatã> you ask. ããthat imports the feed into the message base. not inserting it into an html pageãon the web server.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Twisted Tower - http://twstdt.synchro.net/ã

Drakahn99 wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-ã > Synchronet already has an RSS importer. Web_feed_importer.js will do whatã > you ask.ãã Dr> that imports the feed into the message base. not inserting it into anã Dr> html page on the web server.ããMy misunderstanding then.ããã--ããBillããTelnet: tequilamockingbirdonline.netãWeb: bbs.tequilamockingbirdonline.netãFTP: ftp.tequilamockingbirdonline.net:2121ãIRC: irc.tequilamockingbirdonline.net Ports: 6661-6670 SSL: +6697ãRadio: radio.tequilamockingbirdonline.net:8010/liveããã... Look Twice... Save a Life!!! Motorcycles are Everywhere!!!ã--- MultiMail/Win32 v0.50ã þ Synchronet þ TequilaMockingbird Online - Toms River, NJã

Despite whether one thinks Java is good or not, Java is used for manyã > > things, from embedded devices to smart phones, etc.. Java is theã > > standard language for Android apps, and there are many Android devices onã > > the ãã > it's good because it's cross platform. you would never ever run it onã > a windows system and i'd have to think long and hard before running it onã > anything other than a smart phone.ããYour statements seem to be in conflict with each other..ã- Java is good because it's cross platformã- You wouldn't want to run Java apps on anything other than a smart phoneããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã

Mro wrote in a message to Nightfox:ããM> it's good because it's cross platform. you would never ever run itãM> on a windows system and i'd have to think long and hard beforeãM> running it on anything other than a smart phone.ãã There is one java application I can't live without. Pimlical. It's the best ãdamn calendar app PERIOD. Use the android version on my blackberry and the ãdesktop one on my Linux and Windows boxes. Syncing with each other and not in ãthe cloud. ;)ããShawnã... Windows Error 015: Unable to exit windows. Try the door.ã--- timEd 1.10.y2k+ã * Origin: Tiny's Trailer (723:1/2.1)ã þ Synchronet þ thePharcyde_ telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin)ã

Re: java programmerã By: Nightfox to Mro on Fri Feb 12 2016 09:14 amãã > Your statements seem to be in conflict with each other..ã > - Java is good because it's cross platformã > - You wouldn't want to run Java apps on anything other than a smart phoneããããi meant should instead of would.ãããit's not really conflicting. there's one that's a fact. it's good becauseãit's cross platform.ããthe next is my opinion that you shouldnt run it on anything other than aãsmartphone. i certainly wouldnt run it on windows due to security risks.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Re: java programmerã By: Tiny to Mro on Fri Feb 12 2016 04:20 pmãã > There is one java application I can't live without. Pimlical. It's theã > best damn calendar app PERIOD. Use the android version on my blackberryã > and the desktop one on my Linux and Windows boxes. Syncing with each otherã > and not in the cloud. ;)ããããi actually have one of the best java applications ever. i cant remember theãname because i no longer use it but it's like a utility toolbox full ofãgoodies. one of them is i can control the computer via email commands. it alsoãhas calendar apps and functions.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Yes, I have something for that. Will post it somewhere for you, probablyã> tomorrow.ããthank you. looking forward to seeing what you have done.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Twisted Tower - http://twstdt.synchro.net/ã

rss.ssjsã > http://twstdt.synchro.net/rss.ssjs?channel=Bulletinsã > using a bit of code from feedbucket it grabs the above rss feed and insertsã > the text into my main page.ãã > is there an easier way of adding information onto the main page withoutã > editing the html code each time?ããI this your bbs main page for synchronet you're wanting this on? Are you onlyãconcerned with the latest message, the last 2-3?ããSorry for jumping in late... saw the subject and skipped it, finally curiosityãgot the better of me.ã-- ãMichael J. Ryanãtracker1(at)gmail.comã+o Roughneck BBSãã---ã þ Synchronet þ RoughneckBBS - http://www.roughneckbbs.com/ã

the next is my opinion that you shouldnt run it on anything other than aã> smartphone. i certainly wouldnt run it on windows due to security risks.ããMost of the security risks are in the context of a browser plugin... mostãbrowsers no longer allow Java to run.ããIn the deskop context, if I can launch a Java application, I can launch anyãother kind of application, there's not really an extra security leak there.ã-- ãMichael J. Ryanãtracker1(at)gmail.comã+o Roughneck BBSãã---ã þ Synchronet þ RoughneckBBS - http://www.roughneckbbs.com/ã

I this your bbs main page for synchronet you're wanting this on? Are youã> only concerned with the latest message, the last 2-3?ããyes the main page the sub board i use keeps no more than 25 posts. wich thenãget sent to a rss feed. using the rss.ssjs file in the root directory, andãfeedbucket picks that up and creates an html insert on the main page. ããalthough i have a couple other pages that pull from rss feeds for video gameãreviews, and working on adding a few others for movie reviews and otherãinformation to make a single place for different sources of news of interest.ã ã> Sorry for jumping in late... saw the subject and skipped it, finallyã> curiosity got the better of me.ããnpãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Twisted Tower - http://twstdt.synchro.net/ã

the next is my opinion that you shouldnt run it on anything other than aã > > smartphone. i certainly wouldnt run it on windows due to security risks.ãã > Most of the security risks are in the context of a browser plugin... mostã > browsers no longer allow Java to run.ãã > In the deskop context, if I can launch a Java application, I can launch anyã > other kind of application, there's not really an extra security leak there.ããAgreed.. I was wondering about that - For desktop applications, it seems toãme Java is basically another programming language available. I'm not sure ifãthere would be any extra security risk to running a desktop app just becauseãit's written in Java. If anything, I'd think there might be less securityãrisk because Java apps run in a VM. I'm not sure how Java apps would put yourãsystem at risk more than apps written in other languages.ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã

yes the main page the sub board i use keeps no more than 25 posts. wich thenã> get sent to a rss feed. using the rss.ssjs file in the root directory, andã> feedbucket picks that up and creates an html insert on the main page. ããIt's much more straightforward just to have your webserver read the messagesãfrom that sub on your BBS and add the content to your page directly, skippingãthe intermediate RSS-and-offsite-formatting step.ããWhether or not you're using my bulletin lister (Bullshit) you can use the twoãfiles I committed to the CVS recently for this purpose:ããxtrn/bullshit/bullshit.ssjsãxtrn/bullshit/999-bullshit.xjsãã'bullshit.ssjs' can stay in the 'xtrn/bullshit/' directory, whileã'999-bullshit.xjs' contains the necessary stuff to dump messages out from theãwebserver, formatted for web-v4 (which it looks like you're using). You canãcopy the contents of '999-bullshit.xjs' into your existing home page, or set itãup as its own page if you like. I'll tidy it up a bit later, but for now justãbe aware that this line specifies which sub-board (by internal code) and howãmany messages to display:ããbullshit('bullshit', 5);ããYou can use that same function to dump out x number of messages from anyãsub-board, it's not really specific to my bulletin lister.ãã---ãechicken ãelectronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com - 416-273-7230ã þ Synchronet þ electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.comã

Re: java programmerã By: Nightfox to tracker1 on Tue Feb 16 2016 08:53 amãã > sure if there would be any extra security risk to running a desktop appã > just because it's written in Java. If anything, I'd think there might beã > less security risk because Java apps run in a VM. I'm not sure how Javaã > apps would put your system at risk more than apps written in otherãããjava and flash are 2 of the biggest security risks.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

java and flash are 2 of the biggest security risks.ããI've heard Java has recently improved in its security:ãhttp://bit.ly/1oHZJSYããThere are many apps written in Java though.. Two fairly big ones are Eclipseã(an IDE) and Android Studio (an IDE specifically for Android softwareãdevelopment), which are both written in Java. Given the number ofãJava/Android developers there are, and the number of apps/platforms that useãJava, I'm sure Oracle is motivated to fix its vulnerabilities.ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã

Re: java programmerã By: Nightfox to Mro on Tue Feb 16 2016 03:53 pmãã > > java and flash are 2 of the biggest security risks.ã >ã > I've heard Java has recently improved in its security:ã > http://bit.ly/1oHZJSYã >ã > There are many apps written in Java though.. Two fairly big ones areã > Eclipse (an IDE) and Android Studio (an IDE specifically for Androidã > software development), which are both written in Java. Given the number ofã > Java/Android developers there are, and the number of apps/platforms that useã > Java, I'm sure Oracle is motivated to fix its vulnerabilities.ããDon't forget Minecraft!ãã digital manããSynchronet "Real Fact" #36:ãSynchronet's Windows Control Panel is built with Borland C++ Builder.ãNorco, CA WX: 78.1øF, 23.0% humidity, 3 mph SE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Re: java programmerã By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Tue Feb 16 2016 18:03:32ãã >> There are many apps written in Java though.. Two fairly big ones areã >> Eclipse (an IDE) and Android Studio (an IDE specifically for Androidã >> software development), which are both written in Java. Given theã >> number of Java/Android developers there are, and the number ofã >> apps/platforms that use Java, I'm sure Oracle is motivated to fix itsã >> vulnerabilities. ãã DM> Don't forget Minecraft!ããThat's true.. Minecraft is very popular.ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã

I've heard Java has recently improved in its security:ã> http://bit.ly/1oHZJSYãã> There are many apps written in Java though.. Two fairly big ones are Eclipseã> (an IDE) and Android Studio (an IDE specifically for Android softwareã> development), which are both written in Java. Given the number ofã> Java/Android developers there are, and the number of apps/platforms that useã> Java, I'm sure Oracle is motivated to fix its vulnerabilities.ããHe's still thinking in terms of browser plug-ins - and in that context, he'sãnot wrong. However your point about desktop applications is entirely valid.ãIt's one thing to run a program that you made a point of installing locally,ãand another thing entirely to run something that your browser loaded from anyãold website.ããNot that I'm a Java fan (or detractor - I don't care one way or the other), butãI suppose that people who only really know it in the context of ugly/slowãbrowser applets and security warnings have only that to judge it on.ãã---ãechicken ãelectronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com - 416-273-7230ã þ Synchronet þ electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.comã

It's much more straightforward just to have your webserver read the messagesã> from that sub on your BBS and add the content to your page directly, skippingã> the intermediate RSS-and-offsite-formatting step.ãã> Whether or not you're using my bulletin lister (Bullshit) you can use the twoã> files I committed to the CVS recently for this purpose:ãã> xtrn/bullshit/bullshit.ssjsã> xtrn/bullshit/999-bullshit.xjsãã> 'bullshit.ssjs' can stay in the 'xtrn/bullshit/' directory, whileã> '999-bullshit.xjs' contains the necessary stuff to dump messages out from theã> webserver, formatted for web-v4 (which it looks like you're using). You canã> copy the contents of '999-bullshit.xjs' into your existing home page, or setã> it up as its own page if you like. I'll tidy it up a bit later, but for nowã> just be aware that this line specifies which sub-board (by internal code) andã> how many messages to display:ãã> bullshit('bullshit', 5);ãã> You can use that same function to dump out x number of messages from anyã> sub-board, it's not really specific to my bulletin lister.ãããthank you that's exactly what i needed.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Twisted Tower - http://twstdt.synchro.net/ã

I've heard Java has recently improved in its security:ã > > http://bit.ly/1oHZJSYãã > > There are many apps written in Java though.. Two fairly big ones areã > > Eclipse (an IDE) and Android Studio (an IDE specifically for Androidã > > software development), which are both written in Java. Given the numberã > > of Java/Android developers there are, and the number of apps/platformsã > > that use Java, I'm sure Oracle is motivated to fix its vulnerabilities.ãã > He's still thinking in terms of browser plug-ins - and in that context, he'sã > not wrong. However your point about desktop applications is entirely valid.ã > It's one thing to run a program that you made a point of installing locally,ã > and another thing entirely to run something that your browser loaded fromã > any old website.ãã > Not that I'm a Java fan (or detractor - I don't care one way or the other),ã > but I suppose that people who only really know it in the context ofã > ugly/slow browser applets and security warnings have only that to judge itã > on.ããIt has been years since I've seen any web sites using Java applets. I didn'tãthink that was really common practice anymore.ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã

It has been years since I've seen any web sites using Java applets. I didn'tã> think that was really common practice anymore.ããI wouldn't say common, but they're still out there (and also on some embeddedãdevices) and increasingly annoying. I don't think I stumble upon one more thanãa few times a year at this point, though.ãã---ãechicken ãelectronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com - 416-273-7230ã þ Synchronet þ electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.comã

Re: java programmerã By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Tue Feb 16 2016 07:09 pmãã > DM> Don't forget Minecraft!ãã > That's true.. Minecraft is very popular.ãããyeah i almost ran a minecraft server for my gf's daughter but not gonna touchãjava.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Re: java programmerã By: Mro to Nightfox on Wed Feb 17 2016 18:14:07ãã Mr> yeah i almost ran a minecraft server for my gf's daughter but not gonnaã Mr> touch java.ããI hightly doubt that the authors of the Miencraft server are going to putãmalware in the Minecraft server to exploit your system.. Same with otherãsignificant Java software such as Eclipse, Android Studio, etc.. From whatãI've read about Java's possible insecurities, I imagine only people who likeãwriting viruses would be interested in exploiting Java vulnerabilities.ããBack in the day, the runtime libries for the C and C++ programming languagesãhad their vulnerabilities too (particularly with things like buffer overflows,ãetc.). Over the years they have been patched to prevent things like that. I'mãsure the Java VM & runtimes will be improved over time to preventãvulnerabilities as well.ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã

Re: java programmerã By: Nightfox to Mro on Fri Feb 19 2016 08:13 pmãã > Re: java programmerã > By: Mro to Nightfox on Wed Feb 17 2016 18:14:07ãã > Mr> yeah i almost ran a minecraft server for my gf's daughter but notã > Mr> gonna touch java.ãã > I hightly doubt that the authors of the Miencraft server are going to putã > malware in the Minecraft server to exploit your system.. Same with otherããi didnt say they would. but i refuse to use the java vm because of all theãissues it has had in the past. ãããjava and flash should be shitcanned.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

sure if there would be any extra security risk to running a desktop appã>> just because it's written in Java. If anything, I'd think there might beã>> less security risk because Java apps run in a VM. I'm not sure how Javaã>> apps would put your system at risk more than apps written in otherãã> java and flash are 2 of the biggest security risks.ããIn the browser... on a desktop app, they're no more of a risk than any otherãapplication, generally speaking.ã-- ãMichael J. Ryanãtracker1(at)gmail.comã+o Roughneck BBSãã---ã þ Synchronet þ RoughneckBBS - http://www.roughneckbbs.com/ã

java and flash should be shitcanned.ããThat might be difficult, considering there's more Java developers than anyãother single language (except maybe JavaScript, depending on the source). Iãdon't care for it myself, but in the browser via plugin isn't the same as on ãa server...ããI'm willing to bet you probably use a Java based web-app several times a weekã(running server-side code, not the browser).ã-- ãMichael J. Ryanãtracker1(at)gmail.comã+o Roughneck BBSãã---ã þ Synchronet þ RoughneckBBS - http://www.roughneckbbs.com/ã

Re: Re: java programmerã By: tracker1 to Mro on Wed Mar 02 2016 08:41 amãã > >> sure if there would be any extra security risk to running a desktop appã > >> just because it's written in Java. If anything, I'd think there mightã > be >> less security risk because Java apps run in a VM. I'm not sure howã > Java >> apps would put your system at risk more than apps written in otherãã > > java and flash are 2 of the biggest security risks.ãã > In the browser... on a desktop app, they're no more of a risk than anyã > other application, generally speaking.ãããon the desktop i dont run java apps because my experience with them is they areãalways slow.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã