• Remote sysop paging dev questions

    From Razor@VERT/SILENT to All on Fri May 11 21:31:48 2018
    Hi all. This isn't necessarily exclusively a JavaScript question, but it willãat least partially involve JavaScript.ãI previously wrote a remote sysop pager notification system & I think it shouldãbe updated. It originally consisted of a JavaScript that would send aãnotification to Growl on a Windows system. Growl for Windows is no longerãbeing developed, so I feel I should at least update it to send the notificationãto Snarl.ãI wanted to gauge how everyone felt about this sort of "collection of toolsãworking together" type of mentality before I start working on it, though. Isãthis ok, or would more sysops prefer a regular "Windows app" with an installer?ãPart of the thinking with using Snarl or some other true "notification" app, isãthat it already has built-in support for multiple notification options,ãincluding forwarding them to a smart phone. It's highly unlikely that I couldãsupport my own notification system that would provide as many options.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ The Silent Strike - bbs.thesilentstrike.comã
  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to Razor on Sat May 12 02:06:56 2018
    Re: Remote sysop paging dev questionsã By: Razor to All on Fri May 11 2018 21:31:48ãã Ra> I wanted to gauge how everyone felt about this sort of "collection ofã Ra> tools working together" type of mentality before I start working on it,ããI prefer to go with fewer external dependencies when possible, but sometimesãyou can't really get around it. Whatever works for you.ãã Ra> with an installer? Part of the thinking with using Snarl or some otherã Ra> true "notification" app, is that it already has built-in support forã Ra> multiple notification options, including forwarding them to a smart phone.ã Ra> It's highly unlikely that I could support my own notification system thatã Ra> would provide as many options. ããI did some (not BBS related) stuff with Growl some years ago; it was handy andãeasy enough. If it does what you need it to do, there's no need to roll yourãown. I can't remember if it (or its presumed successor, "Snarl") lets you addãbuttons to a notification; would be nice if you could trigger something thatãpulls the user into chat when the sysop accepts the page.ããFWIW I made a chat pager thing, but at present it's only really useful ifãyou're normally on IRC. This is in Synchronet's CVS repository, atã'xtrn/chat_pager/'. Let your IRC client send you the notification; tell theãIRC bot to answer the page, and it will pull the user into your channel via theãBBS' IRC client. This has the benefit of letting you respond to a page fromãany device, rather than using the built-in sysop chat thing on the machineãthat's hosting the BBS.ãã---ãechickenãelectronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com - 416-273-7230ã þ Synchronet þ electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.comã
  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Razor on Fri May 11 23:40:59 2018
    Re: Remote sysop paging dev questionsã By: Razor to All on Fri May 11 2018 09:31 pmãã Ra> I wanted to gauge how everyone felt about this sort of "collection ofã Ra> tools working together" type of mentality before I start working on it,ã Ra> though.ããBy all means use existing tools whenever possible.ããMy $0.02.ãã Ttyl :-),ã Alããã... Money isn't everything, usually it isn't even enough.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canadaã
  • From Razor@VERT/SILENT to echicken on Sat May 12 12:48:40 2018
    Re: Remote sysop paging dev questionsã By: echicken to Razor on Sat May 12 2018 02:06 amãã ec> lets you add buttons to a notification; would be nice if you could triggerã ec> something that pulls the user into chat when the sysop accepts the page.ããI seem to recall Growl being able to do this, but I don't remember if Snarlãcan. I'll have to find out.ãã ec> FWIW I made a chat pager thing, but at present it's only really useful ifã ec> you're normally on IRC. This is in Synchronet's CVS repository, atã ec> 'xtrn/chat_pager/'. Let your IRC client send you the notification; tellã ec> the IRC bot to answer the page, and it will pull the user into yourã ec> channel via the BBS' IRC client. This has the benefit of letting youã ec> respond to a page from any device, rather than using the built-in sysopã ec> chat thing on the machine that's hosting the BBS.ããThat sounds pretty cool. I'll check it out.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ The Silent Strike - bbs.thesilentstrike.comã
  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Razor on Sun May 13 18:53:00 2018
    Razor wrote to All <=-ãã Ra> @VIA: VERT/SILENTã Ra> Hi all. This isn't necessarily exclusively a JavaScript question, butã Ra> it will at least partially involve JavaScript.ã Ra> I previously wrote a remote sysop pager notification system & I thinkã Ra> it should be updated. It originally consisted of a JavaScript thatããRemote sysop paging would be nice, but I also need remote chat, because myãboards run headless. I'm guessing that means a dedicated app. Paging isãuseless to me without chat as well.ããã... "640K of RAM should be enough for anybody." -- Bill Gatesã--- MultiMail/Win32 v0.49ã þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS, Bendigo Australia. freeway.apana.org.auã
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Razor on Mon May 14 12:51:50 2018
    Re: Remote sysop paging dev questionsã By: Razor to All on Fri May 11 2018 09:31 pmãã Ra> I previously wrote a remote sysop pager notification system & I think itã Ra> should be updated. It originally consisted of a JavaScript that would sendã Ra> a notification to Growl on a Windows system. Growl for Windows is noã Ra> longer being developed, so I feel I should at least update it to send theã Ra> notification to Snarl.ã Ra> I wanted to gauge how everyone felt about this sort of "collection ofã Ra> tools working together" type of mentality before I start working on it,ã Ra> though. Is this ok, or would more sysops prefer a regular "Windows app"ã Ra> with an installer? Part of the thinking with using Snarl or some otherã Ra> true "notification" app, is that it already has built-in support forã Ra> multiple notification options, including forwarding them to a smart phone.ã Ra> It's highly unlikely that I could support my own notification system thatã Ra> would provide as many options. ããUsing a standard notification system is probably a good way to go.. One time Iãwrote my own remote pager tool that I wrote as a C++ app that would connect toãitself running in server mode on my main PC, but the problem with that was thatãif my main PC was turned off, the pager on the BBS would take longer because itãwould fail to connect and then time out. I'm not sure if Growl/Snarl has theãsame issue (I suspect it doesn't, but that's just my guess, as I haven't usedãGrowl or Snarl).ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Vk3jed on Mon May 14 12:54:04 2018
    Re: Re: Remote sysop paging dev questionsã By: Vk3jed to Razor on Sun May 13 2018 06:53 pmãã Vk> Remote sysop paging would be nice, but I also need remote chat, because myã Vk> boards run headless. I'm guessing that means a dedicated app. Paging isã Vk> useless to me without chat as well.ããWhat about remote desktop? My BBS PC has a monitor, but usually I leave itsãmonitor turned off, and when I'm on my main PC, I'll remote desktop into my BBSãmachine. Usually I use VNC for that (although my BBS machine runs Windows andãI could use Windows Remote Desktop if I wanted to).ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã
  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Nightfox on Tue May 15 08:32:00 2018
    Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-ãã Ni> What about remote desktop? My BBS PC has a monitor, but usually Iã Ni> leave its monitor turned off, and when I'm on my main PC, I'll remoteã Ni> desktop into my BBS machine. Usually I use VNC for that (although myã Ni> BBS machine runs Windows and I could use Windows Remote Desktop if Iã Ni> wanted to).ããLack of notifications, and it's a context switch (for me, not the PC) toãrespond to a notification that way. Not a good solution.ããã... Daddy, what does "now formatting drive C:" mean?ã--- MultiMail/Win32 v0.49ã þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS, Bendigo Australia. freeway.apana.org.auã
  • From Razor@VERT/SILENT to Vk3jed on Mon May 14 20:58:16 2018
    Re: Re: Remote sysop paging dev questionsã By: Vk3jed to Razor on Sun May 13 2018 06:53 pmãã Vk> Remote sysop paging would be nice, but I also need remote chat, because myã Vk> boards run headless. I'm guessing that means a dedicated app. Paging isã Vk> useless to me without chat as well.ããI'm not sure a decent solution exists for remote chat with your preferences. Iãhave a couple questions about this.ã1. What OS & version is your board running on?ã2. What OS & version are you sitting in front of?ã3. It sounds like you're hoping for remote chat that works automatically withã1-2 clicks?ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ The Silent Strike - bbs.thesilentstrike.comã
  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Razor on Tue May 15 20:30:00 2018
    Razor wrote to Vk3jed <=-ãã Ra> I'm not sure a decent solution exists for remote chat with yourã Ra> preferences. I have a couple questions about this.ã Ra> 1. What OS & version is your board running on?ããRaspian Wheezyãã Ra> 2. What OS & version are you sitting in front of?ããWindows 7 (primary), Linux Mint 18.2 (secondary)ãã Ra> 3. It sounds like you're hoping for remote chat that worksã Ra> automatically with 1-2 clicks?ããYep, ADHD requires things kept simple. :)ããã... Husbands are like fires. They go out if unattendedã--- MultiMail/Win32 v0.49ã þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS, Bendigo Australia. freeway.apana.org.auã
  • From Razor@VERT/SILENT to Vk3jed on Wed May 16 21:14:39 2018
    Re: Re: Remote sysop paging dev questionsã By: Vk3jed to Razor on Tue May 15 2018 08:30 pmãã Ra>> 2. What OS & version are you sitting in front of?ã Vk> Windows 7 (primary), Linux Mint 18.2 (secondary)ã Ra>> 3. It sounds like you're hoping for remote chat that worksã Ra>> automatically with 1-2 clicks?ã Vk> Yep, ADHD requires things kept simple. :)ããDo you use, or would you be willing to use SyncTerm on either/both of yourãclient systems?ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ The Silent Strike - bbs.thesilentstrike.comã
  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Razor on Thu May 17 20:19:00 2018
    Razor wrote to Vk3jed <=-ãã Ra> Do you use, or would you be willing to use SyncTerm on either/both ofã Ra> your client systems?ããI do, but that's an already open window that's usually hidden (and I don't haveãspeakers). :)ããã... Does killing time harm eternity?ã--- MultiMail/Win32 v0.49ã þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS, Bendigo Australia. freeway.apana.org.auã
  • From Razor@VERT/SILENT to Vk3jed on Tue Jun 5 18:33:15 2018
    Re: Re: Remote sysop paging dev questionsã By: Vk3jed to Razor on Thu May 17 2018 08:19 pmãã Vk> I do, but that's an already open window that's usually hidden (and I don'tã Vk> have speakers). :)ããYou're not going to make this easy for me, are you? Haha, :PãSo you need to have visual paging options, got it.ããDo you have, or would you be willing to set up, a file share that all 3 ofãthese systems can see & make changes to?ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ The Silent Strike - bbs.thesilentstrike.comã
  • From Razor@VERT/SILENT to Vk3jed on Tue Jun 5 20:52:27 2018
    Re: Re: Remote sysop paging dev questionsã By: Razor to Vk3jed on Tue Jun 05 2018 06:33 pmãã Ra> You're not going to make this easy for me, are you? Haha, :Pã Ra> So you need to have visual paging options, got it.ã Ra> Do you have, or would you be willing to set up, a file share that all 3 ofã Ra> these systems can see & make changes to?ããOh & are you running Synchronet 3.17?ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ The Silent Strike - bbs.thesilentstrike.comã
  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Razor on Thu Jun 7 08:23:00 2018
    Razor wrote to Vk3jed <=-ãã Ra> You're not going to make this easy for me, are you? Haha, :Pã Ra> So you need to have visual paging options, got it.ããNope. :Pãã Ra> Do you have, or would you be willing to set up, a file share that all 3ã Ra> of these systems can see & make changes to?ããNo, too prone to breaking, have to rely on multiple vendor implementations ofãthe protocol (presumably SMB/CIFS) reconnecting properly if there's an outageã(a machine acting as a "server" rebooting, for instance).ããã... "Hello, World!" 17 Errors, 31 Warnings....ã--- MultiMail/Win32 v0.49ã þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS, Bendigo Australia. freeway.apana.org.auã
  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Razor on Thu Jun 7 08:23:00 2018
    Razor wrote to Vk3jed <=-ãã Ra> Oh & are you running Synchronet 3.17?ããYes. :)ããã... The Rat Race...win or lose, your still a rat!ã--- MultiMail/Win32 v0.49ã þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS, Bendigo Australia. freeway.apana.org.auã
  • From Razor@VERT/SILENT to Digital Man on Thu Jun 7 19:46:20 2018
    Re: Re: Remote sysop paging dev questionsã By: Vk3jed to Razor on Thu Jun 07 2018 08:23 amããHey Digital Man,ãIs there any way currently to access sysop chat via JS?ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ The Silent Strike - bbs.thesilentstrike.comã
  • From Digital Man@VERT to Razor on Thu Jun 7 23:29:04 2018
    Re: Re: Remote sysop paging dev questionsã By: Razor to Digital Man on Thu Jun 07 2018 07:46 pmãã > Re: Re: Remote sysop paging dev questionsã > By: Vk3jed to Razor on Thu Jun 07 2018 08:23 amã >ã > Hey Digital Man,ã > Is there any way currently to access sysop chat via JS?ããI guess it depends on what you mean by "access". You can initiate a local/sysopãchat using the bbs.private_chat(true) function call.ããAnd there's a proof-of-concept private/sysop chat implemented in JS here:ãhttp://cvs.synchro.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/exec/privchat.jsãã digital manããThis Is Spinal Tap quote #34:ãWe'd love to stand around and chat, but we've gotta sit down in the lobbyãNorco, CA WX: 62.5øF, 75.0% humidity, 0 mph S wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
  • From Razor@VERT/SILENT to Digital Man on Sun Jun 10 14:28:15 2018
    Re: Re: Remote sysop paging dev questionsã By: Digital Man to Razor on Thu Jun 07 2018 11:29 pmãã DM> I guess it depends on what you mean by "access". You can initiate aã DM> local/sysop chat using the bbs.private_chat(true) function call.ã DM> And there's a proof-of-concept private/sysop chat implemented in JS here:ããI'm trying to figure out the best way to have a sysop chat that can be doneãwithin an app that connects to the BBS computer over TCP/IP. I think I'm goingãto be doing this with wxPython & I need it to support at least Windows & Linuxãfor both the client side & server side, in any configuration of the 2ã(Windows->Windows, Linux->Linux, Windows->Linux, Linux->Windows).ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ The Silent Strike - bbs.thesilentstrike.comã
  • From Digital Man@VERT to Razor on Sun Jun 10 14:57:17 2018
    Re: Re: Remote sysop paging dev questionsã By: Razor to Digital Man on Sun Jun 10 2018 02:28 pmãã > Re: Re: Remote sysop paging dev questionsã > By: Digital Man to Razor on Thu Jun 07 2018 11:29 pmã >ã > DM> I guess it depends on what you mean by "access". You can initiate aã > DM> local/sysop chat using the bbs.private_chat(true) function call.ã > DM> And there's a proof-of-concept private/sysop chat implemented in JSã > DM> here:ã >ã > I'm trying to figure out the best way to have a sysop chat that can be doneã > within an app that connects to the BBS computer over TCP/IP. I think I'mã > going to be doing this with wxPython & I need it to support at least Windowsã > & Linux for both the client side & server side, in any configuration of theã > 2 (Windows->Windows, Linux->Linux, Windows->Linux, Linux->Windows).ããSounds doable.ãã digital manããSynchronet "Real Fact" #96:ãSynchronet v3.13a was released in September of 2005 (9 months after v3.12a).ãNorco, CA WX: 85.8øF, 35.0% humidity, 10 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
  • From Razor@VERT/SILENT to Digital Man on Sun Jun 10 15:17:14 2018
    Re: Re: Remote sysop paging dev questionsã By: Razor to Digital Man on Sun Jun 10 2018 02:28 pmãã Ra> I'm trying to figure out the best way to have a sysop chat that can beã Ra> done within an app that connects to the BBS computer over TCP/IP. I thinkã Ra> I'm going to be doing this with wxPython & I need it to support at leastã Ra> Windows & Linux for both the client side & server side, in anyã Ra> configuration of the 2 (Windows->Windows, Linux->Linux, Windows->Linux,ã Ra> Linux->Windows).ããIt just occurred to me that the server side of this should probably be aãSynchronet service & should be done in JS. Is there documentation on how toãcreate a new service?ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ The Silent Strike - bbs.thesilentstrike.comã
  • From Digital Man@VERT to Razor on Sun Jun 10 18:08:33 2018
    Re: Re: Remote sysop paging dev questionsã By: Razor to Digital Man on Sun Jun 10 2018 03:17 pmãã > Re: Re: Remote sysop paging dev questionsã > By: Razor to Digital Man on Sun Jun 10 2018 02:28 pmã >ã > Ra> I'm trying to figure out the best way to have a sysop chat that can beã > Ra> done within an app that connects to the BBS computer over TCP/IP. Iã > Ra> think I'm going to be doing this with wxPython & I need it to supportã > Ra> at least Windows & Linux for both the client side & server side, in anyã > Ra> configuration of the 2 (Windows->Windows, Linux->Linux, Windows->Linux,ã > Ra> Linux->Windows).ã >ã > It just occurred to me that the server side of this should probably be aã > Synchronet service & should be done in JS. Is there documentation on how toã > create a new service?ããThe exec/*service.js files provide working examples of normal JS services.ããIf you want to create a static service (one that runs continuously and handlesãits own incoming connections and servicing of concurrent clients), there'sãexec/example/staticservice.js as well.ãã digital manããSynchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #8:ãBSO = Binkley Style OutboundãNorco, CA WX: 77.5øF, 45.0% humidity, 17 mph ENE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
  • From Razor@VERT/SILENT to Vk3jed on Sat Jun 23 22:39:20 2018
    Re: Re: Remote sysop paging dev questionsã By: Vk3jed to Razor on Thu Jun 07 2018 08:23 amããVk3jed,ãWhat did you have in mind for visual page notifications? Are you picturing theãbuilt-in notification system of each OS, or something more? If more, would youãmind describing it?ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ The Silent Strike - bbs.thesilentstrike.comã
  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Razor on Sun Jun 24 19:00:00 2018
    On 06-23-18 22:39, Razor wrote to Vk3jed <=-ãã Ra> @VIA: VERT/SILENTã Ra> Re: Re: Remote sysop paging dev questionsã Ra> By: Vk3jed to Razor on Thu Jun 07 2018 08:23 amãã Ra> Vk3jed,ã Ra> What did you have in mind for visual page notifications? Are youã Ra> picturing the built-in notification system of each OS, or somethingã Ra> more? If more, would you mind describing it?ããAt the least, flashing the window in the taskbarããã... One fifth of the people are against everything all the time.ã--- MultiMail/Win v0.51ã þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS, Bendigo Australia. freeway.apana.org.auã
  • From Razor@VERT/SILENT to Vk3jed on Sun Jun 24 11:49:53 2018
    Re: Re: Remote sysop paging dev questionsã By: Vk3jed to Razor on Sun Jun 24 2018 07:00 pmãã Ra>> What did you have in mind for visual page notifications? Are youã Vk> At the least, flashing the window in the taskbarããWhat Desktop Environment are you using on your Linux system?ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ The Silent Strike - bbs.thesilentstrike.comã
  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Razor on Mon Jun 25 07:56:00 2018
    On 06-24-18 11:49, Razor wrote to Vk3jed <=-ãã Ra> What Desktop Environment are you using on your Linux system?ããCinnamon on Linux Mint.ããã... Feel lucky???? Update your software!ã--- MultiMail/Win v0.51ã þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS, Bendigo Australia. freeway.apana.org.auã
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Vk3jed on Sun Jun 24 22:19:42 2018
    Re: Re: Remote sysop paging dev questionsã By: Vk3jed to Razor on Mon Jun 25 2018 07:56 amãã Ra>> What Desktop Environment are you using on your Linux system?ãã Vk> Cinnamon on Linux Mint.ããI like that one too. Linux Mint with Cinnamon is currently my favorite Linuxãdistro (or at least one of my favorite distros).ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã
  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Nightfox on Mon Jun 25 19:47:00 2018
    On 06-24-18 22:19, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-ãã Ni> I like that one too. Linux Mint with Cinnamon is currently my favoriteã Ni> Linux distro (or at least one of my favorite distros).ããI like it as well, nice distro and desktop environment. :) First GUI distroãI've used for years. I normally use Linux on servers without a GUI. :)ããã... My computer never locks uã--- MultiMail/Win v0.51ã þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS, Bendigo Australia. freeway.apana.org.auã
  • From djatropine@VERT/LIQDREAM to Vk3jed on Mon Jul 16 01:40:23 2018
    Re: Re: Remote sysop paging dev questionsã By: Vk3jed to Nightfox on Mon Jun 25 2018 07:47 pmãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Sent From Liquid Dreamz BBSã
  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to djatropine on Tue Jul 17 07:05:00 2018
    On 07-16-18 01:40, djatropine wrote to Vk3jed <=-ãã dj> @VIA: VERT/LIQDREAMã dj> Re: Re: Remote sysop paging dev questionsã dj> By: Vk3jed to Nightfox on Mon Jun 25 2018 07:47 pmãã dj> ---ã dj> þ Synchronet þ Sent From Liquid Dreamz BBSãããUmm, you were going to say something? :)ããã... A bird in the hand's better than one overhead.ã--- MultiMail/Win v0.51ã þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS, Bendigo Australia. freeway.apana.org.auã
  • From Razor@VERT/SILENT to Vk3jed on Sun Aug 19 21:48:54 2018
    Re: Re: Remote sysop paging dev questionsã By: Vk3jed to Razor on Mon Jun 25 2018 07:56 amããHi Vk3jed. I have released the initial version of my remote sysop pager. ãRemote sysop chat is coming soon. Please see my message on Synchronet Sysopsãfor specifics.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ The Silent Strike - bbs.thesilentstrike.comã
  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Razor on Mon Aug 20 21:02:00 2018
    On 08-19-18 21:48, Razor wrote to Vk3jed <=-ãã Ra> @VIA: VERT/SILENTã Ra> Re: Re: Remote sysop paging dev questionsã Ra> By: Vk3jed to Razor on Mon Jun 25 2018 07:56 amãã Ra> Hi Vk3jed. I have released the initial version of my remote sysopã Ra> pager. Remote sysop chat is coming soon. Please see my message onã Ra> Synchronet Sysops for specifics.ããThanks, will check it out. :)ããAnd yes, I've installed it, need to do a bit of troubleshooting. :)ããã... The only thing wrong with immortality is that it tends to go on forever.ã--- MultiMail/Win v0.51ã þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS, Bendigo Australia. freeway.apana.org.auã
  • From Ragnarok@VERT/DOCKSUD to Razor on Mon Aug 27 11:43:09 2018
    El 10/06/18 a las 18:28, Razor escribió:ã> Re: Re: Remote sysop paging dev questionsã> By: Digital Man to Razor on Thu Jun 07 2018 11:29 pmã> ã> DM> I guess it depends on what you mean by "access". You can initiate aã> DM> local/sysop chat using the bbs.private_chat(true) function call.ã> DM> And there's a proof-of-concept private/sysop chat implemented in JS here:ã> ã> I'm trying to figure out the best way to have a sysop chat that can be doneã> within an app that connects to the BBS computer over TCP/IP. I think I'm goingã> to be doing this with wxPython & I need it to support at least Windows & Linuxã> for both the client side & server side, in any configuration of the 2ã> (Windows->Windows, Linux->Linux, Windows->Linux, Linux->Windows).ã> ã> ---ã> þ Synchronet þ The Silent Strike - bbs.thesilentstrike.comã> ããi like a sysop chat than page via jabber/xmmpãã=)ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Dock Sud BBS TLD 24 HS - http://bbs.docksud.com.ar - telnet://bbs.docksud.com.arã
  • From Razor@VERT/SILENT to Ragnarok on Tue Aug 28 06:40:38 2018
    Re: Re: Remote sysop paging dev questionsã By: Ragnarok to Razor on Mon Aug 27 2018 11:43 amãã Ra> i like a sysop chat than page via jabber/xmmpããThis is an interesting idea. So that I better understand how this might work,ãwhat jabber client are you using & what platform are you running it on?ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ The Silent Strike - bbs.thesilentstrike.comã
  • From Ragnarok@VERT/DOCKSUD to Razor on Fri Sep 7 19:21:28 2018
    El 28/08/18 a las 10:40, Razor escribió:ã> Re: Re: Remote sysop paging dev questionsã> By: Ragnarok to Razor on Mon Aug 27 2018 11:43 amã> ã> Ra> i like a sysop chat than page via jabber/xmmpã> ã> This is an interesting idea. So that I better understand how this might work,ã> what jabber client are you using & what platform are you running it on?ã> ã> ---ã> þ Synchronet þ The Silent Strike - bbs.thesilentstrike.comã> ãi use pidgin as client and prosody as server.ããi search for javascript xmmp libraries but all are implement for webãbrowsers. I can not find one for use in sync js engine.ããmy idea es very simpleãwhen the user login to the bbs. run the "jabber sysop client magicãmodule" and it can call to sysop. the door connecct to the "pythonãdaemon" and send message to sysop linkã"Pirulo is paging you"ãããthen sysop reply "/OK" or /IM_SLEEPING in the client and the message goãto the daemon. if the message are OK, it activate the comuncation betwenãboth endpoints (some simple chat interface like readline or betterãsplited screen...ããdue the xmmp limitation i thinking in python or node daemon that act asãxmmp client and interface with the bbs door.ãand the bbs can comunicate to the daemon, via pipes, tcp sockets..orãinclusive flat files.. and can be work on DOS to..ãi dont know..i just an idea..ããhttps://imagebin.ca/v/4EvV7XOKBfFlãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Dock Sud BBS TLD 24 HS - http://bbs.docksud.com.ar - telnet://bbs.docksud.com.arã
  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to Ragnarok on Fri Sep 7 19:24:01 2018
    Re: Re: Remote sysop paging dev questionsã By: Ragnarok to Razor on Fri Sep 07 2018 19:21:28ãã Ra> i search for javascript xmmp libraries but all are implement for webã Ra> browsers. I can not find one for use in sync js engine.ããWith some exceptions (implementations of algorithms, etc.) it's hard to findãexisting JS libraries that are *easily* adapted for use with Synchronet. Theãmore complex it gets, the more you're cannibalizing a few functions andãrewriting socket, fs, etc. stuff for this environment.ããXMPP being what it is, you'd either need to find a library that uses E4X (theãXML parser/handler available to us) or bring in a new XML parser.ããNot sure how many people are using XMPP these days (could be lots for all Iãknow). I killed my Jabber server at work a couple of years ago in favour ofãother chat tools, so I no longer have an XMPP client running all the time. Iãdo my paging/sysop chat over IRC since I do have a client open for that.ãã Ra> my idea es very simpleã Ra> when the user login to the bbs. run the "jabber sysop client magicã Ra> module" and it can call to sysop. the door connecct to the "pythonã Ra> daemon" and send message to sysop linkã Ra> "Pirulo is paging you"ããIf the intent is only to page via XMPP there may be simpler ways to do it thanãimplementing the whole protocol:ãã1) A JS module that does just enough XMPP to connect to a server, authenticate,ãand send a messageãã2) Use an XMPP server that offers some hooks for external messages (has a webãAPI or something that clients can send messages through)ãã3) Run an XMPP bot external to your BBS, but build something into it that aãscript from your BBS can communicate with (some simple socket service, a webãAPI, whatever); there are plenty of bot libraries kicking aroundããOptions 2 & 3 are probably easiest overall, option 3 being the most likely.ãã---ãechickenãelectronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com - 416-273-7230ã þ Synchronet þ electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.comã