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YesNo Bar issues...
From
Android8675@VERT/SHODAN to
All on Thu Sep 19 08:27:06 2019
There was an update to the yesnobar.src. I compiled it, but my yes/no bars allãlook like:ãã[@CHECKMARK@] @QUESTION->@? Yes/NoããWhat's this mean? text.dat file? using a older sbbs build? Oh, maybe I have a mod file I gotta update...ããAt any rate. Thoughts?ã--ãAndroid8675@ShodansCoreãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Shodan's Core @ ShodansCore.comã
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From
Android8675@VERT/SHODAN to
All on Thu Sep 19 09:25:16 2019
Re: YesNo Bar issues...ã By: Android8675 to All on Thu Sep 19 2019 08:27 amãã An> [@CHECKMARK@] @QUESTION->@? Yes/Noã An> What's this mean? text.dat file? using a older sbbs build? Oh, maybe Iã An> have a mod file I gotta update... ããUpdated to nightly build and sbbs crashes on startup (WinXP x86). I couldn't get the debug information to load. I don't have a complier running. Could something have broken the nightly recently?ããCurrent build is dated 7/8/2019, so I'm guessing recent changes are to blame.ããI'll try to get error codes if possible, maybe someone point me to some debug info? error.log seems uninformed.ãã-A.ã--ãAndroid8675@ShodansCoreãããã... Why risk a hangover? Stay Drunk!!ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Shodan's Core @ ShodansCore.comã
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From
Digital Man@VERT to
Android8675 on Thu Sep 19 11:39:15 2019
Re: YesNo Bar issues...ã By: Android8675 to All on Thu Sep 19 2019 08:27 amãã > There was an update to the yesnobar.src. I compiled it, but my yes/no barsã > all look like:ã >ã > [@CHECKMARK@] @QUESTION->@? Yes/Noã >ã > What's this mean? text.dat file? using a older sbbs build? Oh, maybe I haveã > a mod file I gotta update...ã >ã > At any rate. Thoughts?ããLooks like you're running on an older sbbs build. Did you update your source code and rebuild?ãã digital manããSynchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #82:ãXOFF = Transmit Off (ASCII 19, Ctrl-S)ãNorco, CA WX: 73.3øF, 56.0% humidity, 0 mph ENE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
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From
Android8675@VERT to
Digital Man on Mon Sep 23 07:59:32 2019
Re: YesNo Bar issues...ã By: Digital Man to Android8675 on Thu Sep 19 2019 11:39 amãã > Re: YesNo Bar issues...ã > By: Android8675 to All on Thu Sep 19 2019 08:27 amã >ã > > There was an update to the yesnobar.src. I compiled it, but my yes/noã > > bars all look like:ã >ã > > [@CHECKMARK@] @QUESTION->@? Yes/Noã >ã > > What's this mean? text.dat file? using a older sbbs build? Oh, maybe Iã > > have a mod file I gotta update...ã >ã > > At any rate. Thoughts?ã >ã > Looks like you're running on an older sbbs build. Did you update your sourceã > code and rebuild?ããUpdated source, but I have no clue how to build sbbs using Windows. I haven't been sucessful since I somehow managed to get Visual Studio 2013 working, but that stopped working, so I tried VS2019, but it can't find the v141_xp build tools I think, and I have no idea how to point to the 3rdp libraries (i'm not even sure if they are supposed to be called libraries).ããI can't find ANY "idiots guide to compiling Synchronet on Windows usinig VS2019", so here I am.ããWhen WinXP crashes here's some of the data is spits out, I can't find logs anywhere referencing this crash, and clicking Debug doesn't work. (I don't have VS2019 installed in XP because it's not supported, it's running from my host Win10 OS).ãã--clip--ãThe instruction at "0x7eb4a01a" referenced memory at "0x00000010". 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VERFILEDATEHI="0x0" VERFILEDATELO="0x0" VERFILEOS="0x40004" VERFILETYPE="0x2" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x100F52" LINKER_VERSION="0x50001" UPTO_BIN_FILE_VERSION="5.1.2600.7682" UPTO_BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="5.1.2600.7682" LINK_DATE="03/19/2019 18:39:07" UPTO_LINK_DATE="03/19/2019 18:39:07" VER_LANGUAGE="English (United States) [0x409]" />ã</EXE>ã</DATABASE>ã--clip off--ããDoubt that'll help, but who knows.ãã-A.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
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From
Digital Man@VERT to
Android8675 on Mon Sep 23 12:22:00 2019
Re: YesNo Bar issues...ã By: Android8675 to Digital Man on Mon Sep 23 2019 07:59 amãã > Re: YesNo Bar issues...ã > By: Digital Man to Android8675 on Thu Sep 19 2019 11:39 amã >ã > > Re: YesNo Bar issues...ã > > By: Android8675 to All on Thu Sep 19 2019 08:27 amã > >ã > > > There was an update to the yesnobar.src. I compiled it, but my yes/noã > > > bars all look like:ã >ã > > > [@CHECKMARK@] @QUESTION->@? Yes/Noã >ã > > > What's this mean? text.dat file? using a older sbbs build? Oh, maybe Iã > > > have a mod file I gotta update...ã >ã > > > At any rate. Thoughts?ã >ã > > Looks like you're running on an older sbbs build. Did you update yourã > > source code and rebuild?ã >ã > Updated source, but I have no clue how to build sbbs using Windows.ããYou don't need to build it yourself. Read this:
http://wiki.synchro.net/install:devãã digital manããThis Is Spinal Tap quote #9:ãDavid St. Hubbins: I mean, it's not your job to be as confused as Nigel.ãNorco, CA WX: 83.4øF, 50.0% humidity, 4 mph NW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
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From
Android8675@VERT/SHODAN to
Digital Man on Mon Sep 23 07:36:16 2019
Re: YesNo Bar issues...ã By: Digital Man to Android8675 on Thu Sep 19 2019 11:39 amããYeah, I'm trying to update to the latest build, but Windows XP keeps crashing when I copy over the latest build (using the downloaded nightly build, I can't get windows to compile sbbs, there's no directions anywhere for idiots who don't use MSVS2019 regularly.ããNow slyedit isn't working, and fseditor is displaying 0's everwhere.ããMight have to install a Win10 VM and see if that fixes the problem.ããIs there instructions for IDIOTS on how to build sbbs3 using Visual Studio 2019?ãã-A.ãã--ãAndroid8675@ShodansCoreãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Shodan's Core @ ShodansCore.comã
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From
Android8675@VERT to
Digital Man on Mon Sep 23 15:06:51 2019
Re: YesNo Bar issues...ã By: Digital Man to Android8675 on Mon Sep 23 2019 12:22 pmãã > Re: YesNo Bar issues...ã > By: Android8675 to Digital Man on Mon Sep 23 2019 07:59 amã >ã > You don't need to build it yourself. Read this:ã >
http://wiki.synchro.net/install:devã >ã > digital manããYes, that's what I did, and using the nightly build causes the system to crash on startup. I've been updating my system with the nightly build like every 4-6 weeks for the last few years and this crash is new, but not much else has changed on my end.ããI tried installing a new build (copied nightly build to an empty folder, run sbbsctrl.exe), got the first time setup questions, it "failed to save configuration", but the sbbs control panel started up and the same crash occured. The error seems like some WinXP error, and the control panel keeps running if I don't dismiss the error.ããI don't know whats going on, but either my OS has a serious issue (maybe VirtualBox is doing something, I dunno), or maybe the code doesn't like XP anymore.ããI can run an older build (dated 7/8/2019), but since I didn't save my data files from back then, everything is hosed.ããI'll wait a few more nights, maybe someone will realize something, or I'll see if I can get a Win10 VM running.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
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From
Digital Man@VERT to
Android8675 on Mon Sep 23 15:29:00 2019
Re: YesNo Bar issues...ã By: Android8675 to Digital Man on Mon Sep 23 2019 07:36 amãã > Re: YesNo Bar issues...ã > By: Digital Man to Android8675 on Thu Sep 19 2019 11:39 amã >ã > Yeah, I'm trying to update to the latest build, but Windows XP keepsã > crashing when I copy over the latest build (using the downloaded nightlyã > build, I can't get windows to compile sbbs, there's no directions anywhereã > for idiots who don't use MSVS2019 regularly.ããI'm not clear: why do you think that if you build the latest code with the same tools and libs that I'm using, that it would behave any differently?ãã > Now slyedit isn't working, and fseditor is displaying 0's everwhere.ããIf it's crashing, how are you able to run slyedit or fseditor?ãã > Might have to install a Win10 VM and see if that fixes the problem.ã >ã > Is there instructions for IDIOTS on how to build sbbs3 using Visual Studioã > 2019?ããNo.ãã digital manããSynchronet "Real Fact" #94:ãSynchronet v3.15b was released in October of 2011 (5 years after v3.14a).ãNorco, CA WX: 81.9øF, 53.0% humidity, 9 mph NE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
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From
Digital Man@VERT to
Android8675 on Mon Sep 23 15:32:58 2019
Re: YesNo Bar issues...ã By: Android8675 to Digital Man on Mon Sep 23 2019 03:06 pmãã > Re: YesNo Bar issues...ã > By: Digital Man to Android8675 on Mon Sep 23 2019 12:22 pmã >ã > > Re: YesNo Bar issues...ã > > By: Android8675 to Digital Man on Mon Sep 23 2019 07:59 amã > >ã > > You don't need to build it yourself. Read this:ã > >
http://wiki.synchro.net/install:devãã > Yes, that's what I did, and using the nightly build causes the system toã > crash on startup.ããThe computer system crashes?ãã > I've been updating my system with the nightly build likeã > every 4-6 weeks for the last few years and this crash is new, but not muchã > else has changed on my end.ã >ã > I tried installing a new build (copied nightly build to an empty folder, runã > sbbsctrl.exe), got the first time setup questions, it "failed to saveã > configuration", but the sbbs control panel started up and the same crashã > occured. The error seems like some WinXP error, and the control panel keepsã > running if I don't dismiss the error.ããI was using MSVC2013 before this year, so if you wanted to use the older dev tools to possibly fix the issue, you'd need to use MSVC2013, not MSVC2019.ãã > I don't know whats going on, but either my OS has a serious issue (maybeã > VirtualBox is doing something, I dunno), or maybe the code doesn't like XPã > anymore.ããIt's definitely possible that something in the new Microsoft tools/libs doesn't like WinXP.ãã > I can run an older build (dated 7/8/2019), but since I didn't save my dataã > files from back then, everything is hosed.ããI'm not sure what you mean. You should be able to use new/current data with old builds.ãã > I'll wait a few more nights, maybe someone will realize something, or I'llã > see if I can get a Win10 VM running.ããIt's only a matter of time before I can't feasibly support WinXP any longer. That time may be now, I'm not sure. Best you upgrade to at *least* Win7.ãã digital manããSynchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #20:ãDOS = Disk Operating System (as in PC-DOS and MS-DOS)ãNorco, CA WX: 81.9øF, 53.0% humidity, 9 mph NE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
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Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to
Android8675 on Mon Sep 23 17:08:25 2019
Re: YesNo Bar issues...ã By: Android8675 to Digital Man on Mon Sep 23 2019 03:06 pmãã An> Yes, that's what I did, and using the nightly build causes the system toã An> crash on startup. I've been updating my system with the nightly build likeããDid you say you're running on Windows XP? I used to run my Synchronet on Windows XP, and I noticed it would crash sometimes, particularly when reading messages with my message reader. I moved it to Windows 7, and now I don't see those same crashing issues.ããIt seems like Synchronet is still crashing for me from time to time (on Windows 7 32-bit), but I haven't nailed down exactly what's causing the crashes yet. It seems like when I build a debug build and try to debug it, I don't see the crashing issue when I try to reproduce it.ããIt seems to be crashing at semi-random times for me though. I have a tool that's set up to periodically check whether sbbsctrl is running, and if not, it runs sbbsctrl. Sometimes I can tell Synchronet seemed to crash and was re-launched (I tend to run it maximized, and after it re-launches, it's not maximized; also, sbbsctrl's taskbar icon is the last taskbar icon after it re-starts, and usually I like to have sbbsctrl's taskbar icon be the first one).ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã
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Android8675@VERT to
Digital Man on Mon Sep 23 21:01:50 2019
Re: YesNo Bar issues...ã By: Digital Man to Android8675 on Mon Sep 23 2019 03:29 pmããã > I'm not clear: why do you think that if you build the latest code with theã > same tools and libs that I'm using, that it would behave any differently?ã >ããYeah, I know, that didn't read too clear after I posted it, sorry.ããSo I >don't< think that if I build the latest code with the same tools that it'll behave differently.ããWhat I didn't know was that building the code and just using the nightly build would yeild the same results. I'm not (as if you couldn't tell) too savy at "coding".ããDon't know if this makes it less clear or not.. I wanted to get the compiler working, because... "why not, it's fun to watch!"ããI love flipping through source and trying to figure out how X thing happens.ããHonestly just trying to update, don't care how it happens, but right now it's not working. Don't know if it's Synchronet or my WinXP VM.ããWorse case scenario I could post a youtube video of whats happening. Maybe I'm just not explaining it correctly.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
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Android8675@VERT to
Digital Man on Mon Sep 23 21:04:29 2019
Re: YesNo Bar issues...ã By: Digital Man to Android8675 on Mon Sep 23 2019 03:29 pmãã > If it's crashing, how are you able to run slyedit or fseditor?ã >ããBecause I restored the exec folder to the 7/8/2019 version. Problem is my other folders are using more recent cvs builds causing all these issues. I guess I could pull old files and roll back everything.ãã > > Is there instructions for IDIOTS on how to build sbbs3 using Visualã > > Studio 2019?ã >ã > No.ããToo bad. Maybe I'll write one if I ever figure it out.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
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From
Android8675@VERT to
Digital Man on Mon Sep 23 21:11:25 2019
Re: YesNo Bar issues...ã By: Digital Man to Android8675 on Mon Sep 23 2019 03:32 pmãã > Re: YesNo Bar issues...ã > By: Android8675 to Digital Man on Mon Sep 23 2019 03:06 pmã >ã > > > You don't need to build it yourself. Read this:ã > > >
http://wiki.synchro.net/install:devã > > Yes, that's what I did, and using the nightly build causes the system toã > > crash on startup.ã >ã > The computer system crashes?ããno, sbbsctrl crashes....ãã--clip--ãThe instruction at "0x7eb4a01a" referenced memory at "0x00000010". The memoryãcould not be "written".ããok to terminate or cancel to debugã--snip--ãã > I was using MSVC2013 before this year, so if you wanted to use the older devã > tools to possibly fix the issue, you'd need to use MSVC2013, not MSVC2019.ã >ããDon't quote me, but I don't think you can download 2013 anymore, but it could be somewhere....ãã > > I don't know whats going on, but either my OS has a serious issue (maybeã > > VirtualBox is doing something, I dunno), or maybe the code doesn't likeã > > XP anymore.ã >ã > It's definitely possible that something in the new Microsoft tools/libsã > doesn't like WinXP.ããSomething to consider...ãã >ã > > I can run an older build (dated 7/8/2019), but since I didn't save myã > > data files from back then, everything is hosed.ã >ã > I'm not sure what you mean. You should be able to use new/current data withã > old builds.ããSorry, stuff like Slyedit.js, most recent build I'm guessing calls functions not implemented in 7/8/2019 build?ãã >ã > > I'll wait a few more nights, maybe someone will realize something, orã > > I'll see if I can get a Win10 VM running.ã >ã > It's only a matter of time before I can't feasibly support WinXP any longer.ã > That time may be now, I'm not sure. Best you upgrade to at *least* Win7.ããI got a Win10 key lying around somewhere...ã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
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From
Android8675@VERT to
Nightfox on Mon Sep 23 21:14:11 2019
Re: YesNo Bar issues...ã By: Nightfox to Android8675 on Mon Sep 23 2019 05:08 pmãã > Re: YesNo Bar issues...ã > By: Android8675 to Digital Man on Mon Sep 23 2019 03:06 pmã >ã > An> Yes, that's what I did, and using the nightly build causes the systemã > An> to crash on startup. I've been updating my system with the nightlyã > An> build likeã >ã > Did you say you're running on Windows XP? I used to run my Synchronet onã > Windows XP, and I noticed it would crash sometimes, particularly whenã > reading messages with my message reader. I moved it to Windows 7, and now Iã > don't see those same crashing issues.ã >ããThis crash occurs 2 seconds after starting sbbsctrl.exe (not running as a service) Don't think the board itself is crashing because while the error message is displayed sbbsctrl continues to boot normally.ããI'm considering installing a Win10 VM or making the leap to linux...ã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
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From
Digital Man@VERT to
Android8675 on Mon Sep 23 21:47:55 2019
Re: YesNo Bar issues...ã By: Android8675 to Digital Man on Mon Sep 23 2019 09:01 pmãã > Re: YesNo Bar issues...ã > By: Digital Man to Android8675 on Mon Sep 23 2019 03:29 pmã >ã >ã > > I'm not clear: why do you think that if you build the latest code withã > > the same tools and libs that I'm using, that it would behave anyã > > differently?ã >ã >ã > Yeah, I know, that didn't read too clear after I posted it, sorry.ã >ã > So I >don't< think that if I build the latest code with the same tools thatã > it'll behave differently.ã >ã > What I didn't know was that building the code and just using the nightlyã > build would yeild the same results. I'm not (as if you couldn't tell) tooã > savy at "coding".ããIf you use the same code and same tools as I am, then I would expect you to get the same results.ãã > Don't know if this makes it less clear or not.. I wanted to get the compilerã > working, because... "why not, it's fun to watch!"ããNo, that was not clear.ãã > I love flipping through source and trying to figure out how X thing happens.ã >ã > Honestly just trying to update, don't care how it happens, but right nowã > it's not working. Don't know if it's Synchronet or my WinXP VM.ã >ã > Worse case scenario I could post a youtube video of whats happening. Maybeã > I'm just not explaining it correctly.ããsbbsctrl.exe is crashing on Windows XP. Your options, the way I see it, are to:ãã1. Experiment with the source code and different (e.g. older) build toolsã2. Upgrade to a newer version of Windowsãããã digital manããSynchronet "Real Fact" #78:ãSynchronet Match Maker had at one time over 4000 profiles of men and women.ãNorco, CA WX: 67.2øF, 71.0% humidity, 0 mph S wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
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Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to
Nightfox on Tue Sep 24 05:35:24 2019
Re: YesNo Bar issues...ã By: Nightfox to Android8675 on Mon Sep 23 2019 17:08:25ãã > Did you say you're running on Windows XP? I used to run my Synchronet on Windows XP, and I noticed it would crash sometimes, particularly when reading messages with my message reader. I moved it to Windows 7, and now Iã > don't see those same crashing issues.ããthis almost sounds like a memory corruption problem... it doesn't rear its head until some code in the corrupted area tries to execute... these can be very hard to track down... sometimes debug builds can hide the problem for a longer while for various reasons... we've seen similar bugs in the 20 year old flightgear simulator... some of them have taken months and months and months to track down... in each case debug backtraces were where the indications of corruption were found... eventually, a cause would be located and fixed and the chase for the next one would start...ããsometimes it is a data or code alignment problem... sometimes a buffer overrun... sometimes it has been a counter variable that's gone negative and not been checked...ããã)\/(arkãã---ã þ Synchronet þ The SouthEast Star Mail HUB - SESTARã
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From
Android8675@VERT to
Digital Man on Tue Sep 24 07:26:42 2019
Re: YesNo Bar issues...ã By: Digital Man to Android8675 on Mon Sep 23 2019 09:47 pmãã > sbbsctrl.exe is crashing on Windows XP. Your options, the way I see it, areã > to:ã >ã > 1. Experiment with the source code and different (e.g. older) build toolsã > 2. Upgrade to a newer version of Windowsã >ã > digital manããThanks for all your help DM. You are an amazing person, really.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã
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poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to
Digital Man on Wed Sep 25 15:27:10 2019
Re: YesNo Bar issues...ã By: Digital Man to Android8675 on Mon Sep 23 2019 03:32 pmããDM> It's only a matter of time before I can't feasibly support WinXP anyãDM> longer. That time may be now, I'm not sure. Best you upgrade to at *least*ãDM> Win7. ããAnd I thought I was the last hold-out! ããI mentioned the two problems I'd run into with Windows XP - the IPV6 issue and the boot-up errors that you fixed a couple of weeks ago.ããShame, because a cut-down version of XP makes a VM with a tiny footprint.ããI've mentioned before, anyone with the ability of getting to at least Windows 7 should run the Windows 10 updater before Windows 7 goes EOL.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ realitycheckBBS --
http://realitycheckBBS.orgã
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poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to
Android8675 on Wed Sep 25 15:28:50 2019
Re: YesNo Bar issues...ã By: Android8675 to Digital Man on Mon Sep 23 2019 09:01 pmããAn> I love flipping through source and trying to figure out how X thingãAn> happens. ããIf you're in the mood for some light reading, pick up MINIX, the source code and a textbook are available. Version 2 taught me a lot about how code interacts with hardware.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ realitycheckBBS --
http://realitycheckBBS.orgã
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Android8675@VERT/SHODAN to
Digital Man on Sat Sep 28 16:41:34 2019
Re: YesNo Bar issues...ã By: Digital Man to Android8675 on Mon Sep 23 2019 09:47 pmãã > 2. Upgrade to a newer version of Windowsã >ã > digital manããGot everything running on Win7 now. I tried Win10 Guest, but man that shit is slow, and my Win7 key was having issues which wasn't a major issue once I did the online unlock, but I settled on Win7 for now, it just runs smoother.ããSo yeah, problems seem gone, so were all good.ãã--ãAndroid8675@ShodansCoreãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Shodan's Core @ ShodansCore.comã
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MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to
Android8675 on Sat Sep 28 21:50:47 2019
Re: YesNo Bar issues...ã By: Android8675 to Digital Man on Sat Sep 28 2019 04:41 pmãã > Re: YesNo Bar issues...ã > By: Digital Man to Android8675 on Mon Sep 23 2019 09:47 pmãã > > 2. Upgrade to a newer version of Windowsãã > > digital manãã > Got everything running on Win7 now. I tried Win10 Guest, but man that shit iã > slow, and my Win7 key was having issues which wasn't a major issue once I diã > the online unlock, but I settled on Win7 for now, it just runs smoother.ãã > So yeah, problems seem gone, so were all good.ããããwindows 7 can run on very low resources. i had a win 7 vm that worked great.ã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã
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From
Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to
Android8675 on Sun Sep 29 11:52:00 2019
Re: YesNo Bar issues...ã By: Android8675 to Digital Man on Sat Sep 28 2019 04:41 pmãã An> Got everything running on Win7 now. I tried Win10 Guest, but man that shitã An> is slow, and my Win7 key was having issues which wasn't a major issue onceããI had the same experience.. I got my BBS set up in a Win10 VM but it seemed very slow, so I set up a Win7 VM instead.ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã
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From
Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to
MRO on Sun Sep 29 11:52:53 2019
Re: YesNo Bar issues...ã By: MRO to Android8675 on Sat Sep 28 2019 09:50 pmãã MR> windows 7 can run on very low resources. i had a win 7 vm that workedã MR> great. ---ããI thought Windows 8 and above (including 10) were supposed to be able to run on fairly low resources, since Microsoft tried to make the more recent versions of Windows able to run on both PCs and tablets (which might not have many resources).ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã
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Android8675@VERT/SHODAN to
MRO on Sun Sep 29 17:11:45 2019
Re: YesNo Bar issues...ã By: MRO to Android8675 on Sat Sep 28 2019 09:50 pmãã > > Got everything running on Win7 now. I tried Win10 Guest, but man thatã >ã > windows 7 can run on very low resources. i had a win 7 vm that worked great.ãEOL is Jan 21st, 2020, of course EOL for XP was like 7 years ago.ãã--ãAndroid8675@ShodansCoreãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Shodan's Core @ ShodansCore.comã