ctrl modopts.ini 1.32 1.33
Update of /cvsroot/sbbs/ctrl
In directory cvs:/tmp/cvs-serv3756

Modified Files:
modopts.ini
Log Message:
[logon] section: removed last_few_callers (moved to [logonlist]) and added show_logon_list
Added [logonlist] section, see http://wiki.synchro.net/module:logonlist
for details.



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Re: ctrl/modopts.ini
By: rswindell to CVS commit on Sun Mar 29 2020 07:59 pm

Modified Files:
modopts.ini
Log Message:
[logon] section: removed last_few_callers (moved to [logonlist]) and added show_logon_list
Added [logonlist] section, see http://wiki.synchro.net/module:logonlist for details.

I had a look at that page on the wiki and got logonlist set up. One thing I noticed is that the wiki page says to set up maintenance (?logonlist -m) in both the Daily Event and a "System Timed Event". Does it need to only be run once daily? When I run ?logonlist -l, it says I'm the first caller of the day, even though my BBS has had callers. When I run ?logonlist -y, it displays yesterday's callers as expected.

I have ?logonlist -m set up as the Daily Event, but I was wondering if it needs to be run periodically as a System Timed Event? But even after running ?logonlist -m now, when I use the -l option, it still says I'm the first caller of the day and it doesn't display the day's callers.

Nightfox

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Re: ctrl/modopts.ini
By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Sun Mar 29 2020 08:32 pm

Re: ctrl/modopts.ini
By: rswindell to CVS commit on Sun Mar 29 2020 07:59 pm

Modified Files:
modopts.ini
Log Message:
[logon] section: removed last_few_callers (moved to [logonlist]) and added show_logon_list
Added [logonlist] section, see http://wiki.synchro.net/module:logonlist for details.

I had a look at that page on the wiki and got logonlist set up. One thing I noticed is that the wiki page says to set up maintenance (?logonlist -m) in both the Daily Event and a "System Timed Event".

Ah, thanks, typo on my part. "logonlist install" does do the right thing though and adds "?logonlist -m" as the system's daily event.

Does it need to only be run once daily?

Yes.

When I run ?logonlist -l, it says I'm the first caller of
the day, even though my BBS has had callers. When I run ?logonlist -y, it displays yesterday's callers as expected.

I expect that you ran the maintenance recently then. It needs to close to midnight which it does when set as the System Daily Event.

I have ?logonlist -m set up as the Daily Event, but I was wondering if it needs to be run periodically as a System Timed Event?

No, just daily.

But even after
running ?logonlist -m now, when I use the -l option, it still says I'm the first caller of the day and it doesn't display the day's callers.

Right, I'm guessing because you rolled-over the data/logon.jsonl file (to logon.0.jsonl) prematurely. So long as the maintenace runs close to midnight, which it will as a daily event, it'll work as expected.

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Re: ctrl/modopts.ini
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Sun Mar 29 2020 09:33 pm

I had a look at that page on the wiki and got logonlist set up. One
thing I noticed is that the wiki page says to set up maintenance
(?logonlist -m) in both the Daily Event and a "System Timed Event".

Ah, thanks, typo on my part. "logonlist install" does do the right thing though and adds "?logonlist -m" as the system's daily event.

Does it need to only be run once daily?

Yes.

But even after
running ?logonlist -m now, when I use the -l option, it still says I'm
the first caller of the day and it doesn't display the day's callers.

Right, I'm guessing because you rolled-over the data/logon.jsonl file (to logon.0.jsonl) prematurely. So long as the maintenace runs close to midnight, which it will as a daily event, it'll work as expected.

Thanks.

Nightfox

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Re: ctrl/modopts.ini
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Sun Mar 29 2020 09:33 pm

Ah, thanks, typo on my part. "logonlist install" does do the right thing though and adds "?logonlist -m" as the system's daily event.

I'm curious why the Daily Event option was added? I'd think the logonlist maintenance could be set up as a Timed Event to run at (or near) midnight every day. Also, since the Daily Event is configurable, I'd think that could be configured to run something else other than the logonlist maintenance..

Nightfox

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Re: ctrl/modopts.ini
By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Sun Mar 29 2020 10:29 pm

Re: ctrl/modopts.ini
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Sun Mar 29 2020 09:33 pm

Ah, thanks, typo on my part. "logonlist install" does do the right thing though and adds "?logonlist -m" as the system's daily event.

I'm curious why the Daily Event option was added?

It's actually always been there.

I'd think the logonlist
maintenance could be set up as a Timed Event to run at (or near) midnight every day.

I suppose, but then it'd have to run in the event thread, which is optional (can be disabled) and can also be delayed while other timed events are running. The System Daily Event cannot be disabled and runs in the node's thread (the first node thread to be created in a new day) if the event thread isn't running. So it's more dependable than a timed event. You could try it as a timed event and let me know how it works out?

One downside I see with using the system daily event is that the first user of a new day will be included in the previous-day's logonlist. So... that could be a problem.

Also, since the Daily Event is configurable, I'd think that
could be configured to run something else other than the logonlist maintenance..

Yeah, but I don't think anybody is/was using it for anything. Ideally, the sytem daily event would be a list of events to run instead of just a single. I used to use a batch file that did a bunch of things, but those have been replaced with timed events.

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Re: ctrl/modopts.ini
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Sun Mar 29 2020 11:33 pm

I'm curious why the Daily Event option was added?

It's actually always been there.

Ah, I guess I hadn't noticed it before.

I'd think the logonlist
maintenance could be set up as a Timed Event to run at (or near)
midnight every day.

I suppose, but then it'd have to run in the event thread, which is optional (can be disabled) and can also be delayed while other timed events are running. The System Daily Event cannot be disabled and runs in the node's thread (the first node thread to be created in a new day) if the event thread isn't running. So it's more dependable than a timed event. You could try it as a timed event and let me know how it works out?

I might give it a try..

Also, since the Daily Event is configurable, I'd think that
could be configured to run something else other than the logonlist
maintenance..

Yeah, but I don't think anybody is/was using it for anything. Ideally, the sytem daily event would be a list of events to run instead of just a single. I used to use a batch file that did a bunch of things, but those have been replaced with timed events.

I still have a batch file that runs all of my daily maintenance stuff. I thought it would be simpler to have my daily maintenance as one (timed) event rather than making it a bunch of different events.

Nightfox

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Re: ctrl/modopts.ini
By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Mon Mar 30 2020 11:33 am

I still have a batch file that runs all of my daily maintenance stuff. I thought it would be simpler to have my daily maintenance as one (timed) event rather than making it a bunch of different events.

Yup, that's still a practical solution. Batch files are of course, platform (Windows) specific, and Synchronet being cross-platform and Vertrauen being a multi-platform system, I try to avoid using platform-specific solutions as much as possible.

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Re: ctrl/modopts.ini
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Mon Mar 30 2020 12:12 pm

I still have a batch file that runs all of my daily maintenance stuff.
I thought it would be simpler to have my daily maintenance as one
(timed) event rather than making it a bunch of different events.

Yup, that's still a practical solution. Batch files are of course, platform (Windows) specific, and Synchronet being cross-platform and Vertrauen being a multi-platform system, I try to avoid using platform-specific solutions as much as possible.

Much of my daily maintenance stuff is running maintenance on DOS doors & things anyway, so having a batch file to do it right now doesn't really bother me a whole lot. If I moved my BBS to Linux (which I've been considering), I'd have to re-do that a bit.

Nightfox

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ctrl modopts.ini 1.33 1.34
Update of /cvsroot/sbbs/ctrl
In directory cvs:/tmp/cvs-serv23700

Modified Files:
modopts.ini
Log Message:
Added eval_first and eval_last to [logon] section of modopts.ini



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ctrl modopts.ini 1.34 1.35
Update of /cvsroot/sbbs/ctrl
In directory cvs:/tmp/cvs-serv29824

Modified Files:
modopts.ini
Log Message:
Enable fast logon support by default (I like this option too much).



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ctrl modopts.ini 1.35 1.36
Update of /cvsroot/sbbs/ctrl
In directory cvs:/home/rswindell/sbbs/ctrl

Modified Files:
modopts.ini
Log Message:
Add the "guest" key to the [login] section.



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https://gitlab.synchro.net/sbbs/sbbs/-/commit/c0c6822cc374c73ef72d733d
Modified Files:
ctrl/modopts.ini
Log Message:
Removed the minimum_password_length setting, now obsolete

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https://gitlab.synchro.net/sbbs/sbbs/-/commit/8c823077cf826f52aa59bab3
Modified Files:
ctrl/modopts.ini
Log Message:
make it easy for people to change the look of the external programs menu by presenting them the defaults instead of them having to dig into the code, text.dat, etc. to get the starting values

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https://gitlab.synchro.net/sbbs/sbbs/-/commit/c660395f32c44d5b6f00e652
Modified Files:
ctrl/modopts.ini
Log Message:
Merge branch 'xtrnmodopts' into 'master'

present external menu option display defaults

See merge request sbbs/sbbs!30

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https://gitlab.synchro.net/sbbs/sbbs/-/commit/268f540c43c5f31bc14edf09
Modified Files:
ctrl/modopts.ini
Log Message:
Document the [newuser] survey key

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https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/commit/011ab5da38bc6b62db0b9305
Modified Files:
ctrl/modopts.ini
Log Message:
Add missing options (clear_screen, multicolumn_separator, and singlecolumn_margin) for xtrn_sec in modopts.ini

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https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/commit/f962e8703fab311bcbd9bb6d
Modified Files:
ctrl/modopts.ini
Log Message:
Merge branch 'patch-1' into 'master'

Add missing options (clear_screen, multicolumn_separator, and singlecolumn_margin) for xtrn_sec in modopts.ini

See merge request main/sbbs!37

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https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/commit/38d0cd2274ecf080996253e0
Modified Files:
ctrl/modopts.ini
Log Message:
Update modopts.ini due to section changes in xtrn_sec.js

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https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/commit/5830a25b15305effb2460f7c
Modified Files:
ctrl/modopts.ini
Log Message:
Merge branch 'patch-1' into 'master'

Update modopts.ini due to section changes in xtrn_sec.js

See merge request main/sbbs!38

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