Anyone here heard of Helen OS (it's not UNIX-based by the way).ãã > It is a research OS i guess.ãã > Pretty nice user interface though.ããAlso the utilities it comes with are pretty cool. I must say.ãããHere is a link to their site: http://www.helenos.org/ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ UsersClub BBS - userclub-bbs.comã
This is an interesting os to try under a RaspBerry Pi,
altough if it had an audio player and a ssh/telnet client
plus a supported wireless driver, it would be enough
for my dailt tasks. Altough today a lot can be done
with a Wifi232 and a FPGA implemented retro machine.
On 10/5/2020 12:14 PM, anthk wrote:ãã > > This is an interesting os to try under a RaspBerry Pi,ã > > altough if it had an audio player and a ssh/telnet clientã > > plus a supported wireless driver, it would be enoughã > > for my dailt tasks. Altough today a lot can be doneã > > with a Wifi232 and a FPGA implemented retro machine.ãã > I prefer Raspbian myself.ããya, I figure if one has an rpi they might as well use raspbian os ... hell, Iãeven use raspbian pc on my x86_64 :-oãã~Mortifisãã---ã þ Synchronet þ The Realm of Dispair telnet ephram.synchro.net 2323 ssh 2222 web 82ã
This is an interesting os to try under a RaspBerry Pi,ã Mo> > > altough if it had an audio player and a ssh/telnet clientã Mo> > > plus a supported wireless driver, it would be enoughã Mo> > > for my dailt tasks. Altough today a lot can be doneã Mo> > > with a Wifi232 and a FPGA implemented retro machine.ã Mo> ã Mo> > I prefer Raspbian myself.ã Mo> ã Mo> ya, I figure if one has an rpi they might as well use raspbian os ...ã Mo> hell, I even use raspbian pc on my x86_64 :-oã Mo> ã Mo> ~MortifisããI use Raspberry Pi's for many things around my home network. I haven't seenãor tried HelenOS; but it seems like theres many new, niche OSes popping upãfor RPi's that... IMO aren't very worthy; however I don't know HelenOS.ããRaspian is always the best for building something specific you need; whetherãyou use the GUI or lite version. ããIf you're into retro gaming, or are coming from x86 systems and aren'tãwanting to embrace the ARM side, I would REALLY suggest TwisterOS. It is anãOS built with the end goal of making box86 (x86 emulator for ARM systems)ãbetter on the Raspberry Pi... ããSo, sorry to hijack the thread BUT for RPi's I really would suggest:ããRaspian/Raspberry Pi OS - If you're trying to embrace/learn/build on the ARMãplatform..ããTwisterOS - If you're into retro gaming, or less interested in ARM stuff...ãit has x86 support right on your RPi.ãã---ãI haven't played with DietPi... which might be nice for specific Pi Zeroãbuilds... does anyone suggest it to built things from the ground up with onlyãthe stuff you need?ãããã|07p|15AULIE|1142|07oã|08.........ã
paulie420 wrote to Mortifis <=-ãã pa> I use Raspberry Pi's for many things around my home network. I haven'tã pa> seen or tried HelenOS; but it seems like theres many new, niche OSesã pa> popping up for RPi's that... IMO aren't very worthy; however I don'tã pa> know HelenOS.ããã For around the price of a rPi, I bought a used thinkpad with a brokenã keyboard, maxxed the RAM out and loaded Proxmox on it. I'm runningã PiHole on it, as well as several other OSes. It sits folded up underã my router, making a compact little homelab.ãã I hear there's a rPi version of ESXi, with enough memory it mightã make more sense to run bare metal virtualization - then you could runã whatever OS you want?ããããã... Start where you are. Use what you have. Do what you can.ã--- MultiMail/XT v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ realitycheckBBS -- http://realitycheckBBS.orgã
For around the price of a rPi, I bought a used thinkpad with a brokenã pF> keyboard, maxxed the RAM out and loaded Proxmox on it. I'm runningã pF> PiHole on it, as well as several other OSes. It sits folded up underã pF> my router, making a compact little homelab.ããYou know, I do own one 27" power iMac - and it does all the 'pretty' things Iãlike to do around the house; but it doesn't really RUN any of myãtasks/servers/etc... it just comsumes and displays data in a great lookingãpackage.ããI actually also bought several ThinkPad T430s machines, specced them out likeãyou described... and I even upgrade the monitors to a 1920x1080 full ipsãdisplay - I have to order this connector from china, but I haven't had anyãissues with them; some others have had the display do funny stuff but... I'veãbeen lucky. For ME, the i7-3520 processors my ThinkPads have handles most anyãLinux stuff I need them to do. I *love* the ThinkPad platform... and probablyãwill buy a current model at some point... a T480 or something like that.ãã pF> I hear there's a rPi version of ESXi, with enough memory it mightã pF> make more sense to run bare metal virtualization - then you could runã pF> whatever OS you want?ããI'm not familiar with ESXi or proxmox; although I have heard of proxmoxãbefore, I don't exactly know what tasks it performs of why I might need it.ã:P Lol.ããI'll research both of those... thanks for your reply.ãããã|07p|15AULIE|1142|07oã|08.........ã
Alpine Linux would be better suited than raspbian or dietpi, speciallyã an> on setups with high I/O writting, as Alpine allows to run from RAMã an> and just write the differences with 'lbu commit -d',ã an> saving a lot of writting cycles on an SD.ããHmmm.. I've played with Alpine in the past; but just in a very distro hoppyãway; I didn't utilize that RAM feature. Many things I create with Pi's areãread only systems tho... so once all my data is on the SDcard, thats it no inãor out at all...ããI think raspian (or diet) is good for that.ãããã|07p|15AULIE|1142|07oã|08.........ã
paulie420 wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-ãã pa> I actually also bought several ThinkPad T430s machines, specced themã pa> out like you described... and I even upgrade the monitors to aã pa> 1920x1080 full ips display - I have to order this connector from china,ã pa> but I haven't had any issues with them; some others have had theã pa> display do funny stuff but... I've been lucky. For ME, the i7-3520ã pa> processors my ThinkPads have handles most any Linux stuff I need themã pa> to do. I *love* the ThinkPad platform... and probably will buy aã pa> current model at some point... a T480 or something like that.ãã I can't seem to get rid of my T410; it's a boat anchor compared toã the newer models, but I love the keyboard. It's got an i7, the onlyã real issue is that it maxxes out at 8 GB of RAM. I'd love it if Iã could get it up to 16.ãã I have a 16gb T480 from work, they are nice systems.ãã pF> I hear there's a rPi version of ESXi, with enough memory it mightã pF> make more sense to run bare metal virtualization - then you could runã pF> whatever OS you want?ãã pa> I'm not familiar with ESXi or proxmox; although I have heard of proxmoxã pa> before, I don't exactly know what tasks it performs of why I might needã pa> it. :P Lol.ãã ESXi and Proxmox are bare metal virtualization platforms. ESXi isã from VMware and free for home use, Proxmox has a community editionã and a paid support, enterprise edition. Both boot up on bare hardwareã and let you run virtual machines without needing the overhead of aã full OS like running VirtualBox or VMware Workstation/Player onã Windows or Linux.ããã |07p|15AULIE|1142|07oã |08.........ãã... Start where you are. Use what you have. Do what you can.ã--- MultiMail/XT v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ realitycheckBBS -- http://realitycheckBBS.orgã
Moondog wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-ãã Mo> Another used hardware alternative is getting used thni clients fromã Mo> ebay or other liquidators. They are powerful enough to be used asã Mo> netowrk appliances or other light duty applicaitons.ãã I've wanted to buy one of those thin clients to be a DOS gaming box.ã I've heard of people using them as low-powered hosts to run MagicJackã from, too.ãããã... Start where you are. Use what you have. Do what you can.ã--- MultiMail/XT v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ realitycheckBBS -- http://realitycheckBBS.orgã
I actually also bought several ThinkPad T430s machines, specced themã pF> pa> out like you described... and I even upgrade the monitors to aã pF> pa> 1920x1080 full ips display - I have to order this connector from chinã pF> pa> but I haven't had any issues with them; some others have had theã pF> pa> display do funny stuff but... I've been lucky. For ME, the i7-3520ã pF> pa> processors my ThinkPads have handles most any Linux stuff I need themã pF> pa> to do. I *love* the ThinkPad platform... and probably will buy aã pF> pa> current model at some point... a T480 or something like that.ã pF> ã pF> I can't seem to get rid of my T410; it's a boat anchor compared toã pF> the newer models, but I love the keyboard. It's got an i7, the onlyã pF> real issue is that it maxxes out at 8 GB of RAM. I'd love it if Iã pF> could get it up to 16.ã pF> ã pF> I have a 16gb T480 from work, they are nice systems.ã pF> ããThe T430s does go to 16gb ram, so I guess thats one reason why I can stillãuse it as an almost-daily driver...ããThe T430s has an i7, too... but I wish I had the T430 so it was socketed andãI could even push IT up a bit too...ããThe T440 is even better, and I guess if I was buying CURRENTLY I'd go for aãcurrent T480... what CURRENT ThinkPad do you think is worthy of a purchase?ãããã|07p|15AULIE|1142|07oã|08.........ã
paulie420 wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-ãã pa> The T440 is even better, and I guess if I was buying CURRENTLY I'd goã pa> for a current T480... what CURRENT ThinkPad do you think is worthy of aã pa> purchase?ãã The T480s is a hell of a laptop, but I'm thinking about a Dell, for aã simple reason - now that I'm working from home, I work out on my deckã a lot, do a lot of video calls with it, and a black laptop gets hot fast!ãã Odd, since I worked for a company that was all Thinkpad - T43, X60,ã T60 and Z60s. Company was acquired by a company that was all Dell,ã and we suffered through the D610/620/630, the super lightweight modelã that could barely boot, then the E4300, E6300, then finally gettingã good when I left, with the E7430s. Hated them all, except a E6330ã that I modded up with more memory, a hybrid drive and a DVD burner.ã That was an awesome remote work laptop - I never sat at the same deskã twice when I had that thing.ããããã... Start where you are. Use what you have. Do what you can.ã--- MultiMail/XT v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ realitycheckBBS -- http://realitycheckBBS.orgã
The T480s is a hell of a laptop, but I'm thinking about a Dell, for aã pF> simple reason - now that I'm working from home, I work out on my deckã pF> a lot, do a lot of video calls with it, and a black laptop gets hotã pF> fast!ããI really like the Dell XPS line; and they even have a developer versionãrunning some form of linux; its pretty cheap even. ããI assume that the Dell lines are fairly linux-compatible... hmmmmm.ãããã|07p|15AULIE|1142|07oã|08.........ã
paulie420 wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-ãã pa> I really like the Dell XPS line; and they even have a developer versionã pa> running some form of linux; its pretty cheap even.ããI had one of the original XPS13 Developer editions (l321x), and it ranãUbuntu flawlessly. I built a developer image on it for a couple ofãdozen engineers at a former company and they loved them.ãããã... Start where you are. Use what you have. Do what you can.ã--- MultiMail/XT v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ realitycheckBBS -- http://realitycheckBBS.orgã
I had one of the original XPS13 Developer editions (l321x), and it ranã pF> Ubuntu flawlessly. I built a developer image on it for a couple ofã pF> dozen engineers at a former company and they loved them.ããMight be a dumb question, but to create an image for install on otherãmachines later - do I just install an OS, install all packages I wantãincluded and then backup the entire drive to an IMG? ãããã|07p|15AULIE|1142|07oã|08.........ã
paulie420 wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-ãã pF> I had one of the original XPS13 Developer editions (l321x), and it ranã pF> Ubuntu flawlessly. I built a developer image on it for a couple ofã pF> dozen engineers at a former company and they loved them.ãã pa> Might be a dumb question, but to create an image for install on otherã pa> machines later - do I just install an OS, install all packages I wantã pa> included and then backup the entire drive to an IMG?ãã Essentially, yes.ããããã... Start where you are. Use what you have. Do what you can.ã--- MultiMail/XT v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ realitycheckBBS -- http://realitycheckBBS.orgã
Might be a dumb question, but to create an image for install on otherã pF> pa> machines later - do I just install an OS, install all packages I wantã pF> pa> included and then backup the entire drive to an IMG?ã pF> ã pF> Essentially, yes.ããI want to setup my favorite linux OS, add my base stuff I use and keep thatãimage for install on other laptops - so I don't have to reinstall everything.ãJust update/upgrade and go.ãããã|07p|15AULIE|1142|07oã|08.........ã
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