Hello,ããI've been recently sucked into this thing called FreeBSD mostly because Iãwanted to know if I can port most of the stuff that I do there. Luckily, I wasãable to port mostly everything that are essential to me, such as my e-mailãreader, RSS feed reader and other productivity stuff. However, one thing that Iãwasn't able to find an alternative for was MultiMail for FreeBSD. I lookedãaround whether there's anyone who bothered porting that to the BSDs but itãseemed that no one did. I also found atp which is this qwk reader that I'veãnever heard about though I wasn't able to install it due to some weirdãconflicts with another program that I have already installed. Either way, I wasãwondering if there's anyone out there who might be able to suggest anyãapplications that I can try out just to fill that void in my BSD box.ããThanks in advance!ãAtroxiãã... Whatever happens, happens.ã--- MultiMail/Linux v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Atroxi wrote to All <=-ãã At> Hello,ãã At> I've been recently sucked into this thing called FreeBSD mostly becauseã At> I wanted to know if I can port most of the stuff that I do there.ã At> Luckily, I was able to port mostly everything that are essential to me,ã At> such as my e-mail reader, RSS feed reader and other productivity stuff.ã At> However, one thing that I wasn't able to find an alternative for wasã At> MultiMail for FreeBSD. I looked around whether there's anyone whoã At> bothered porting that to the BSDs but it seemed that no one did. I alsoã At> found atp which is this qwk reader that I've never heard about though Iã At> wasn't able to install it due to some weird conflicts with anotherã At> program that I have already installed. Either way, I was wondering ifã At> there's anyone out there who might be able to suggest any applicationsã At> that I can try out just to fill that void in my BSD box.ãã At> Thanks in advance!ã At> Atroxiãã At> ... Whatever happens, happens.ã At> --- MultiMail/Linux v0.52ãã So, I'm actually officially stupid. I don't know how and why but somehow Iãmanaged to overlook the mmail package in the FreeBSD repositories. Pleaseãdisregard the prior message, I'm really sorry for just blabbering this withoutãactually doing a hard enough search.ãã And here I was thinking that I would just have to suck it up and learn to useãNNTP stuff and when literally when I looked for MultiMail FreeBSD theãfreebsd.org page showed up with the mmail package.ãã Stupid. Absolute stupid.ãããã... You want to delete me right? Yeah, you sure do. You slut.ã--- MultiMail/FreeBSD v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Atroxi wrote to Atroxi <=-ãã At> Stupid. Absolute stupid.ããBest way to learn it to make mistakes :DããFBSD was my daily driver for a long time late 90's and about first decade ofãthe 2K ... Then I got old and have been toying with different toynix distros,ãbut for pat 5 years or so I have been rather pleased with Pop!_OS.ãAlthough I'm writing this on ArcaOS ... liking the whole look'n'feel and theãsmell of nostalgia :)ãHave ArcaOS, OpenBSD and Haiku intalled on this "retro-thingie" X60s ThinkPad.ã... Einstein's relativity work is a magnificent mathematical garb whichãascinatã--- MultiMail/OS2 v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Hakuchi wrote to Atroxi <=-ãã -=> Atroxi wrote to Atroxi <=-ãã At> Stupid. Absolute stupid.ãã Ha> Best way to learn it to make mistakes :Dãã Certainly, I really felt stupid that after I posted in here and did someãcasual searching that the package that I was looking for some time now wasãactually ported to FreeBSD.ãã Ha> FBSD was my daily driver for a long time late 90's and about firstã Ha> decade of the 2K ... Then I got old and have been toying with differentã Ha> toynix distros, but for pat 5 years or so I have been rather pleasedã Ha> with Pop!_OS. Although I'm writing this on ArcaOS ... liking the wholeã Ha> look'n'feel and the smell of nostalgia :)ã Ha> Have ArcaOS, OpenBSD and Haiku intalled on this "retro-thingie" X60sã Ha> ThinkPad. ... Einstein's relativity work is a magnificent mathematicalã Ha> garb which ascinatãã Yeah, a lot of people are saying nice stuff with Pop! OS. I haven't tried thatãpersonally, as I'm not that much of a fan of prebuilt stuff. I don't even knowãif I'll stop at FreeBSD, but so far I'm quite pleased at how organized stuffãare. Perhaps I will go deeper into the rabbit hole and install OpenBSD, thoughãI don't see any reason for it right now. In general, however, it was quite easyãto port the scripts that I have written in Linux over here which made the hopãmuch more pleasant.ãã X60s IS retro, it's quite funny how hard getting one of those thick laptopsãaround my area. Whenever I ask about it on used computer shops, people alwaysãget shocked and ask why I'm looking for such an antique piece of computer andãnot their new, slightly used, sleek laptops. Perhaps they just don't get theãappeal of Thinkpads.ãã... You want to delete me right? Yeah, you sure do. You slut.ã--- MultiMail/FreeBSD v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Atroxi wrote to Hakuchi <=-ãã At> Yeah, a lot of people are saying nice stuff with Pop! OS. I haven'tã At> tried that personally, as I'm not that much of a fan of prebuilt stuff.ããI do feel you. But since I first got their laptop that came with it I thoughtãto test it out and here I am :)ãã At> I don't even know if I'll stop at FreeBSD, but so far I'm quite pleasedã At> at how organized stuff are. Perhaps I will go deeper into the rabbitã At> hole and install OpenBSD, though I don't see any reason for it rightã At> now. In general, however, it was quite easy to port the scripts that Iã At> have written in Linux over here which made the hop much more pleasant.ããFBSD is good, but for some reason I found out that OBSD have matured ratherãwell and I do like it. Basically I could install it as a daily driver since itãhas all I need.ãã At> X60s IS retro, it's quite funny how hard getting one of those thickã At> laptops around my area. Whenever I ask about it on used computer shops,ã At> people always get shocked and ask why I'm looking for such an antiqueã At> piece of computer and not their new, slightly used, sleek laptops.ã At> Perhaps they just don't get the appeal of Thinkpads.ããPeople think they do need all the shiny new hotness or whatever ... If anytingãdoesn't break, I have basically all the hardware I'll need for the rest of myãlife. If not newer camera body, but that is different :Dããã... "When you are crazy you learn to keep quiet." - Philip K. Dickã--- MultiMail/OS2 v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Atroxi wrote to Hakuchi <=-ãã At> X60s IS retro, it's quite funny how hard getting one of those thickã At> laptops around my area. Whenever I ask about it on used computer shops,ã At> people always get shocked and ask why I'm looking for such an antiqueã At> piece of computer and not their new, slightly used, sleek laptops.ã At> Perhaps they just don't get the appeal of Thinkpads.ããI grudgingly got rid of my T42 and replaced it with a T410. It'sãchunkier than an ultrabook-form factor newer Thinkpad, but it stillãhas a full-travel keyboard. With it, I feel like I'm working on aãportable desktop compared to an ultrabook.ããThe older ones are easy to work on, too - remove a couple of screwsãand the keyboard slides up and out, giving you access to the logicãboard and making replacements easier.ãããã... Start where you are. Use what you have. Do what you can.ã--- MultiMail/XT v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ realitycheckBBS -- http://realitycheckBBS.orgã

On 8/26/2020 6:42 AM, poindexter FORTRAN wrote:

I grudgingly got rid of my T42 and replaced it with a T410. It's
chunkier than an ultrabook-form factor newer Thinkpad, but it still
has a full-travel keyboard. With it, I feel like I'm working on a
portable desktop compared to an ultrabook.

Depending on where I am going, I'll bring a keyboard and mouse with me
to use with a laptop. I really hate all laptop keyboards, though some
are better than others.

I like the Unicomp/Model-M style keyboards the most, but they're too
annoying for people around me, and on calls. Now I'm mostly using das keyboards w/ cherry mx brown switches. I've got a couple generic brown keyboards, but most of the generics no longer use real browns and they
don't feel quite right.

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I like the Unicomp/Model-M style keyboards the most, but they're tooã >annoying for people around me, and on calls.ããWhy are those annoying to those around you? Key tap sounds ?ãI wasn't sure what the Model-M keyboards were so I checked online and they mayãbe similar to what I use. The Model M keyboards were made by Unicomp and byãMaxiswitch (and one other) over the years. The keyboard I am typing this on,ãwhich I have used since about 1993, is a Maxiswitch manufactured in 1991.ã---ã þ SLMR Rob þ Let he who is without stones cast the first sinnerã þ Synchronet þ CAPCITY2 * capcity2.synchro.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/Rlogin/HTTPã

Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeBã By: Rob Mccart to TRACKER1 on Sun Aug 30 2020 12:29 amãã TR>>I like the Unicomp/Model-M style keyboards the most, but they're tooã RM> >annoying for people around me, and on calls.ãã RM> Why are those annoying to those around you? Key tap sounds ?ã RM> I wasn't sure what the Model-M keyboards were so I checked online and theyããno they let out fart smells. of course it's the soundã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Tracker1 wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-ãã Tr> I like the Unicomp/Model-M style keyboards the most, but they're tooã Tr> annoying for people around me, and on calls. Now I'm mostly using dasã Tr> keyboards w/ cherry mx brown switches. I've got a couple generic brownã Tr> keyboards, but most of the generics no longer use real browns and theyã Tr> don't feel quite right.ããPreach. I have a model M that's been with me since 1991, and can't useãit in the house; my home office is right off of the main televisionãroom.ããI have a chiclet keyboard on my desktop now, think I've been turned byãthe new laptop keyboards. I should find a quieter mechanical keyboard;ãI've just gotten spoiled by wireless keyboards and haven't found aãwireless mechanical keyboard (yet).ãããã... Start where you are. Use what you have. Do what you can.ã--- MultiMail/XT v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ realitycheckBBS -- http://realitycheckBBS.orgã

Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeBSDã By: poindexter FORTRAN to Tracker1 on Sat Aug 29 2020 07:39 amãã PF> I have a chiclet keyboard on my desktop now, think I've been turned byã PF> the new laptop keyboards. I should find a quieter mechanical keyboard;ã PF> I've just gotten spoiled by wireless keyboards and haven't found aã PF> wireless mechanical keyboard (yet).ãã They're all over, now. ãã I have a Logitech G910 that's about 5 years old now. I yank all the keys off and clean it out every few months, and, other than a couple of the LEDs having gone bad, it works perfectly.ããDaiTenguãã... Everything beautiful has its moment and then passes away.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ War Ensemble BBS - The sport is war, total war - warensemble.comã

Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeBSD ã By: poindexter FORTRAN to Tracker1 on Sat Aug 29 2020 07:39 am ã ã PF> I have a chiclet keyboard on my desktop now, think I've been turned by ã PF> the new laptop keyboards. I should find a quieter mechanical keyboard; ã PF> I've just gotten spoiled by wireless keyboards and haven't found a ã PF> wireless mechanical keyboard (yet). ã ã They're all over, now. ã ã I have a Logitech G910 that's about 5 years old now. I yank all the keys off ãand clean it out every few months, and, other than a couple of the LEDs having ãgone bad, it works perfectly. ã ã(The G910 is not wireless, but there are a few logitechs that are, with similar switches)ããDaiTengu ã ã... Everything beautiful has its moment and then passes away. ã ããMikeãã---ã þ Synchronet þ War Ensemble BBS - The sport is war, total war - warensemble.comã

On 8/26/2020 6:42 AM, poindexter FORTRAN wrote:ãã> I grudgingly got rid of my T42 and replaced it with a T410. It'sã> chunkier than an ultrabook-form factor newer Thinkpad, but it stillã> has a full-travel keyboard. With it, I feel like I'm working on aã> portable desktop compared to an ultrabook.ããDepending on where I am going, I'll bring a keyboard and mouse with me ãto use with a laptop. I really hate all laptop keyboards, though some ãare better than others.ããI like the Unicomp/Model-M style keyboards the most, but they're too ãannoying for people around me, and on calls. Now I'm mostly using dasãkeyboards w/ cherry mx brown switches. I've got a couple generic brownãkeyboards, but most of the generics no longer use real browns and they ãdon't feel quite right.ãã-- ãMichael J. Ryanãtracker1 +o Roughneck BBSãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Roughneck BBS - coming back 2/2/20ã þ Synchronet þ Havens BBS havens.synchro.netã

Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeBã By: poindexter FORTRAN to Tracker1 on Sat Aug 29 2020 07:39 amãã > -=> Tracker1 wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-ã > ã > Tr> I like the Unicomp/Model-M style keyboards the most, but they're tooã > Tr> annoying for people around me, and on calls. Now I'm mostly using dasã > Tr> keyboards w/ cherry mx brown switches. I've got a couple generic brownã > Tr> keyboards, but most of the generics no longer use real browns and theyã > Tr> don't feel quite right.ã > ã > Preach. I have a model M that's been with me since 1991, and can't useã > it in the house; my home office is right off of the main televisionã > room.ã > ã > I have a chiclet keyboard on my desktop now, think I've been turned byã > the new laptop keyboards. I should find a quieter mechanical keyboard;ã > I've just gotten spoiled by wireless keyboards and haven't found aã > wireless mechanical keyboard (yet).ã > ã > ã > ã > ... Start where you are. Use what you have. Do what you can.ããI used to work with someone who would bring his own keyboard to work. He hadãone with the old big DIN connector and a ps/2 adapter. The Dell workstationsãwe had still supported ps/2 ports. I was curious as to when he would have toãswitch to a usb adapter, however I think he would've been ready to retire atãthat point.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ The Cave BBS - Since 1992 - cavebbs.homeip.netã

On 8/29/2020 9:29 PM, Rob Mccart wrote:

I like the Unicomp/Model-M style keyboards the most, but they're too
annoying for people around me, and on calls.

Why are those annoying to those around you? Key tap sounds ?

Yeah, the buckling springs are particularly clicky. People were
generally polite about it, but it's been clear on more than one
occassion that people didn't like the sound.

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On 8/29/2020 7:39 AM, poindexter FORTRAN wrote:

I like the Unicomp/Model-M style keyboards the most, but they're too
annoying for people around me, and on calls. Now I'm mostly using das
keyboards w/ cherry mx brown switches. I've got a couple generic brown
keyboards, but most of the generics no longer use real browns and they
don't feel quite right.

Preach. I have a model M that's been with me since 1991, and can't use
it in the house; my home office is right off of the main television
room.

I have a chiclet keyboard on my desktop now, think I've been turned by
the new laptop keyboards. I should find a quieter mechanical keyboard;
I've just gotten spoiled by wireless keyboards and haven't found a
wireless mechanical keyboard (yet).

Cherry MX Browns are generally the most liked by touch typists for
mechanical switches (tactile bump, less noisy), though preferences will
vary. There are a lot of fake "brown-like" and if you're looking at a keyboard under around $80 US, it's probably fake browns that aren't the
same.

There are some newer wireless mechanical keyboards, many of the good
ones are using an RF adapter that isn't bluetooth and tends to perform
better if you go that way. I don't have enough personal experience on
that side, I've been wired for a long time now. One occassion of
driving to a store halfway across town at 3am for batteries with a
looming deadline was one time too many for me.

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On 8/31/2020 8:53 AM, Moondog wrote:

I used to work with someone who would bring his own keyboard to work. He had one with the old big DIN connector and a ps/2 adapter. The Dell workstations we had still supported ps/2 ports. I was curious as to when he would have to switch to a usb adapter, however I think he would've been ready to retire at that point.

May have been able to use a din->ps/2->usb adapter, but may have needed
a usb power injector... I've had that issue before when using a kvm.

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Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeBã By: Moondog to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Aug 31 2020 11:53 amãã Mo> I used to work with someone who would bring his own keyboard to work. Heã Mo> had one with the old big DIN connector and a ps/2 adapter. The Dellã Mo> workstations we had still supported ps/2 ports. I was curious as to whenã Mo> he would have to switch to a usb adapter, however I think he would've beenã Mo> ready to retire at that point.ããOne time I worked with someone who brought his own keyboard to work, because he was used to the Dvorak keyboard layout..ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã

I like the Unicomp/Model-M style keyboards the most, but they're tooã> >> annoying for people around me, and on calls.ã> >ã> > Why are those annoying to those around you? Key tap sounds ?ãã> Yeah, the buckling springs are particularly clicky. People wereã> generally polite about it, but it's been clear on more than oneã> occassion that people didn't like the sound.ããCan't you just mute your mic when you are not talking?ããã * SLMR 2.1a * And Homer saith unto them, "D'OH!" -- Bart 17:3ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ CAPCITY2 * capcity2.synchro.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/Rlogin/HTTPã

One time I worked with someone who brought his own keyboard to work, because hã> was used to the Dvorak keyboard layout..ããOne of my co-workers uses one of those, too, and their background is not inãIT. It is one of our users. I had always associated Dvorak to olderãprogrammers but I guess I am wrong as she is not a programmer and is < 50.ããã * SLMR 2.1a * Man who fights with wife all day gets no piece at night.ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ CAPCITY2 * capcity2.synchro.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/Rlogin/HTTPã

Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeBã By: Nightfox to Moondog on Tue Sep 01 2020 08:14 amãã Mo>> I used to work with someone who would bring his own keyboard toã Mo>> work. He had one with the old big DIN connector and a ps/2 adapter.ãã Ni> One time I worked with someone who brought his own keyboard to work,ã Ni> because he was used to the Dvorak keyboard layout..ããFor quite some time I used my own ergonomic keyboard and trackball at work until they decided to pay for (nicer) replacements.ããHattonãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Three Corners and Beyond! http://3corners.usã

Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeBã By: Tracker1 to Rob Mccart on Mon Aug 31 2020 05:55 pmãã > On 8/29/2020 9:29 PM, Rob Mccart wrote:ã > >> I like the Unicomp/Model-M style keyboards the most, but they're tooã > >> annoying for people around me, and on calls.ã >ã > > Why are those annoying to those around you? Key tap sounds ?ã >ã > Yeah, the buckling springs are particularly clicky. People wereã > generally polite about it, but it's been clear on more than oneã > occassion that people didn't like the sound.ããI had a co-worker who was very verbal about preference for model-M's and he brought like 3 of them in and put them on his desk. He plugged one in and started typing. Everybody in the office got to hear him type at like 10 words a minute. I was like, Dude, if you're gonna have a loud keyboard, learn to type!ãã digital manããSling Blade quote #26:ãKarl: kaiser blade, ax handle with long blade on it shaped kinda like a banana.ãNorco, CA WX: 66.5øF, 76.0% humidity, 6 mph ENE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeBã By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Tue Sep 01 2020 02:39 pmãã >> One time I worked with someone who brought his own keyboard to work,ã >> because h was used to the Dvorak keyboard layout..ãã DW> One of my co-workers uses one of those, too, and their background is notã DW> in IT. It is one of our users. I had always associated Dvorak to olderã DW> programmers but I guess I am wrong as she is not a programmer and is < 50.ããThe guy I knew who used the Dvorak keyboard was maybe around 25 years old at the time.ããI had heard the Dvorak keyboard was supposed to be faster to type on, and that the QWERTY keyboard was designed to be slower for typing to prevent typewriter arms from jamming, but I've since heard that isn't really true.ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã

Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeBã By: Dumas Walker to TRACKER1 on Tue Sep 01 2020 02:37 pmãã > >>> I like the Unicomp/Model-M style keyboards the most, but they'reã > >>> too annoying for people around me, and on calls.ãã > >> Why are those annoying to those around you? Key tap sounds ?ãã >> Yeah, the buckling springs are particularly clicky. People wereã >> generally polite about it, but it's been clear on more than oneã >> occassion that people didn't like the sound.ãã DW> Can't you just mute your mic when you are not talking?ããAt one of my last jobs, there were often online meetings with many people in different offices. Sometimes they had to ask people to mute their mic (or just mute everyone except the speaker) due to all the noise coming through many peoples' mics. It would often be a combination of typing, people eating things, people talking to other people near their computer, and/or various other noises.ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã

Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeBã By: Digital Man to Tracker1 on Tue Sep 01 2020 09:41 pmãã DM> I had a co-worker who was very verbal about preference for model-M's andã DM> he brought like 3 of them in and put them on his desk. He plugged one inã DM> and started typing. Everybody in the office got to hear him type at likeã DM> 10 words a minute. I was like, Dude, if you're gonna have a loud keyboard,ã DM> learn to type! ããI'm not a fan of people being loud in general, so I'm not really a big fan of those keyboards. I tend to prefer a quiet keyboard for myself too..ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã

On 9/1/2020 11:37 AM, Dumas Walker wrote:

Can't you just mute your mic when you are not talking?

1. doesn't help with they guy in the next desk/cube over.
2. There are times where I'm literally talking and typing. Quite a lot actually.

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On 9/1/2020 10:39 PM, Nightfox wrote:

Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeB
By: Digital Man to Tracker1 on Tue Sep 01 2020 09:41 pm

I had a co-worker who was very verbal about preference for model-M's and
he brought like 3 of them in and put them on his desk. He plugged one in
and started typing. Everybody in the office got to hear him type at like
10 words a minute. I was like, Dude, if you're gonna have a loud keyboard, >> learn to type!

I'm not a fan of people being loud in general, so I'm not really a big fan of those keyboards. I tend to prefer a quiet keyboard for myself too..

That's mainly why I switched to Cherry MX Brown keyboards. I really
prefer the feel of the model-m style buckling spring keys more than
anything. It's just a unique key travel that's hard to emulate. It can
be annoying though...

On typing, my daughter had a party and I was up in the loft typing, and apparently people thought I was just goofing around as they didn't
believe you could type that fast. I'd be surprised if I hit over 100wpm anymore though.

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Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeBã By: Tracker1 to Nightfox on Wed Sep 02 2020 12:29 pmãã Tr> On typing, my daughter had a party and I was up in the loft typing, and ã Tr> apparently people thought I was just goofing around as they didn't ã Tr> believe you could type that fast. I'd be surprised if I hit over 100wpm ã Tr> anymore though.ããOne of my nephews also thought that of me when he was maybe 5 or 6 years old. I tend to type fairly fast, and he thought I was just typing gibberish on my PC because I was typing so fast.ããNightfoxãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.comã

Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeBã By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Tue Sep 01 2020 10:39 pmãã > Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeBã > By: Digital Man to Tracker1 on Tue Sep 01 2020 09:41 pmã >ã > DM> I had a co-worker who was very verbal about preference for model-M'sã > DM> and he brought like 3 of them in and put them on his desk. He pluggedã > DM> one in and started typing. Everybody in the office got to hear him typeã > DM> at like 10 words a minute. I was like, Dude, if you're gonna have aã > DM> loud keyboard, learn to type!ã >ã > I'm not a fan of people being loud in general, so I'm not really a big fanã > of those keyboards. I tend to prefer a quiet keyboard for myself too..ããMe too. Working from home has been nice in that regard as I can (usually) have a nice and quiet environment in which to work.ãã digital manããSynchronet "Real Fact" #26:ãThe Synchronet Web Server was written predominantly by Stephen Hurd (Deuce).ãNorco, CA WX: 86.5øF, 44.0% humidity, 14 mph ENE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrsã---ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeBã By: Nightfox to Dumas Walker on Tue Sep 01 2020 10:30 pmãã > Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeBã > By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Tue Sep 01 2020 02:39 pmã > ã > >> One time I worked with someone who brought his own keyboard to work,ã > >> because h was used to the Dvorak keyboard layout..ã > ã > DW> One of my co-workers uses one of those, too, and their background is noã > DW> in IT. It is one of our users. I had always associated Dvorak to olderã > DW> programmers but I guess I am wrong as she is not a programmer and is < ã > ã > The guy I knew who used the Dvorak keyboard was maybe around 25 years old atã > the time.ã > ã > I had heard the Dvorak keyboard was supposed to be faster to type on, and thã > the QWERTY keyboard was designed to be slower for typing to prevent typewritã > arms from jamming, but I've since heard that isn't really true.ã > ã > Nightfoxã > ããWhat I have heard is that QWERTY got popular because a typewriter operator wonãa writing speed contest with one or something like that, but I have noãverification for such claim.ãã--ãgopher://gopher.operationalsecurity.esãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FLã

What I have heard is that QWERTY got popular because a typewriter operator woã >a writing speed contest with one or something like that, but I have noã >verification for such claim.ããAs I understand it, the QWERTY setup was chosen to slow down certain commonãkey combinations which caused old style type writers to jam. The setup was notãthe easiest or fastest for the typists but it helped reduce those key-jams.ãThen we all got used to it so it was never changed.ã---ã þ SLMR Rob þ "Milhouse, we live in the age of cooties" - Bart Simpsonã þ Synchronet þ CAPCITY2 * capcity2.synchro.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/Rlogin/HTTPã

Digital Man wrote to Nightfox <=-ãã DM> Me too. Working from home has been nice in that regard as I canã DM> (usually) have a nice and quiet environment in which to work.ããã Working in open office plans has prepared me well for the noise ofã working in a house with a 10-year old aspiring singer. Who. Sings.ã All. The. Time.ãã I have a nice USB headset and about 8 hours of ambient music I'veã listened to while working since 2001.ãããã... Start where you are. Use what you have. Do what you can.ã--- MultiMail/XT v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ realitycheckBBS -- http://realitycheckBBS.orgã

Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeBã By: poindexter FORTRAN to Digital Man on Thu Sep 03 2020 07:23 amãã PF> Working in open office plans has prepared me well for the noise ofã PF> working in a house with a 10-year old aspiring singer. Who. Sings.ã PF> All. The. Time.ããMy singer just went off to college for Music Therapy.ããMy future NERF engineer is a high school sophomore... and I have to hear about every mod he wants to implement on his arsenal.ããWe learn how to cope :)ããHattonãã---ã þ Synchronet þ Three Corners and Beyond! http://3corners.usã

Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeBã By: poindexter FORTRAN to Digital Man on Thu Sep 03 2020 07:23 amãã PF> -=> Digital Man wrote to Nightfox <=-ãã DM>> Me too. Working from home has been nice in that regard as I canã DM>> (usually) have a nice and quiet environment in which to work.ããã PF> Working in open office plans has prepared me well for the noise ofã PF> working in a house with a 10-year old aspiring singer. Who. Sings.ã PF> All. The. Time.ããbuild a sound proof 'recording studio' for them to sing inã---ã þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::ã

Hakuchi wrote to Atroxi <=-ãã -=> Atroxi wrote to Hakuchi <=-ãã At> Yeah, a lot of people are saying nice stuff with Pop! OS. I haven'tã At> tried that personally, as I'm not that much of a fan of prebuilt stuff.ãã Ha> I do feel you. But since I first got their laptop that came with it Iã Ha> thought to test it out and here I am :)ãã Yup, if it does the job and you're happy with it there's no reason to switchãisn't it? I tried FreeBSD just because I was getting bored with Void Linux andãI was quite surprised that until now I haven't removed FreeBSD on my laptop.ãIt's unfortunate actually that steam doesn't work as well as on linux than onãhere because that's the only thing that's keeping the Void Linux install on myãdesktop box.ãã At> I don't even know if I'll stop at FreeBSD, but so far I'm quite pleasedã At> at how organized stuff are. Perhaps I will go deeper into the rabbitã At> hole and install OpenBSD, though I don't see any reason for it rightã At> now. In general, however, it was quite easy to port the scripts that Iã At> have written in Linux over here which made the hop much more pleasant.ãã Ha> FBSD is good, but for some reason I found out that OBSD have maturedã Ha> rather well and I do like it. Basically I could install it as a dailyã Ha> driver since it has all I need.ãã Man, I'm really curious with OpenBSD now. I don't know if it would make senseãfor someone like me to run it. I don't really "study" computers on an academicãlevel and are not, currently, interested in deeper operating system stuff. Iãheard that if you want to learn more about how operating systems work that youãshould try using OpenBSD because the codebase is smaller and the community areãhelpful in teaching you stuff around it.ãã At> X60s IS retro, it's quite funny how hard getting one of those thickã At> laptops around my area. Whenever I ask about it on used computer shops,ã At> people always get shocked and ask why I'm looking for such an antiqueã At> piece of computer and not their new, slightly used, sleek laptops.ã At> Perhaps they just don't get the appeal of Thinkpads.ãã Ha> People think they do need all the shiny new hotness or whatever ... Ifã Ha> anyting doesn't break, I have basically all the hardware I'll need forã Ha> the rest of my life. If not newer camera body, but that is different :Dãã Man, cameras are a different thing, isn't it. I don't understand it, but I canãsure see it's a different beast.ãã Ha> ... "When you are crazy you learn to keep quiet." - Philip K. Dickã Ha> --- MultiMail/OS2 v0.52ãã... The number you have dailed...Nine-one-one...has been changed.ã--- MultiMail/FreeBSD v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.netã

Atroxi wrote to Hakuchi <=-ãã At> Void Linux and I was quite surprised that until now I haven't removedã At> FreeBSD on my laptop. It's unfortunate actually that steam doesn't workã At> as well as on linux than on here because that's the only thing that'sã At> keeping the Void Linux install on my desktop box.ãã Don't have a clue about Steam on FBSD or any other BSD ... I know it runs okãon GNU, but that's about it. I don't game, you see. Well not like that I don'tã:Dãã At> Man, I'm really curious with OpenBSD now. I don't know if it wouldã At> make sense for someone like me to run it. I don't really "study"ã At> computers on an academic level and are not, currently, interested inã At> deeper operating system stuff. I heard that if you want to learn moreã At> about how operating systems work that you should try using OpenBSDã At> because the codebase is smaller and the community are helpful inã At> teaching you stuff around it.ãã Well ... OBSD is surely it's own puffy-thing. Even for people who aren'tãreally interested or curious about how things are done "the proper way", canãsee the beauty of proper code and such. Of course it's not developed for users.ãIt's done by the devs for themselves. But one of the most secure thingies OOBãthat is out there.ãIf something, I would like to see Qubes-like OS made with OBSD and with theãsame attitude towards security and code integrity and robustness.ã ãã... 0101110 01000011ã--- MultiMail/OS2 v0.52ã þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ
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Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeBã By: poindexter FORTRAN to Digital Man on Thu Sep 03 2020 07:23 amããã PF> -=> Digital Man wrote to Nightfox <=-ãã DM>> Me too. Working from home has been nice in that regard as I canã DM>> (usually) have a nice and quiet environment in which to work.ããã PF> Working in open office plans has prepared me well for the noise ofã PF> working in a house with a 10-year old aspiring singer. Who. Sings.ã PF> All. The. Time.ãã PF> I have a nice USB headset and about 8 hours of ambient music I'veã PF> listened to while working since 2001.ããI have worked from home since 2010. I cannot stand working from home!ãã---ã þ Synchronet þ The ByteXchange BBS : -= bbs.thebytexchange.com =-ã