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    From tvandor@yahoo.com [symbos8bit]@symbos8bit@yahoogroups.com to symbos8bit@yahoogroups.com on Wed Feb 17 12:39:04 2016
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    <p><span>Hi all,</span></p><p><span><br></span></p><p><span>Greetings! This is my first post here. :-)</span></p><p>And I have to say in advance that I am not really</p><p>an expert in electronics I am afraid.</p><p><br></p><p><span>I own a Symbiface II board which I use with my old and trusty</span></p><p><span>Schneider CPC 6128. I had the board quite a while and</span></p><p><span>after switching on the CPC after several month, I noticed that</span></p><p><span>my saved rom programs were not really working anymore.</span></p><p><span>(Symbos did not boot properly, etc.)</span></p><p>So I thought it is time to replace the coin battery.</p><p>I bought a DL2032 battery (I read that it is just a CR2032 made by Duracell)</p><p>and tried to replace it with the old one.</p><p>I had a hard time doing it as it seemed to stuck or glued to the electrodes.</p><p>In the end I managed to do it. I put in the new one but since then, my</p><p>CPC won&#39;t boot properly. When I am switching it on, it goes into some kind</
    <p>of boot loop, repeating to display the copright message over and over again.</p><p>So I am afraid, that I probably wrecked my board. If I pull the ribbon cable from</p><p>the expansion port the CPC boots normally, so I beileve the the Symbiface 2&nbsp;</p><p>what has a problem.</p><p><br></p><p>The dip switched are in their usual state: switch 0 and 7 are off,</p><p>the rest are on. I did not change any jumpers, etc.</p><p><br></p><p>Any ideas guys? Anything to check or to do?</p><p><span style="word-spacing:normal;line-height:1.25;">&nbsp;(Maybe somebody who can do repairs if needed? Not for free&nbsp;</span><span style="word-spacing:normal;line-height:1.25;">ofc.)</span></p><p><span style="word-spacing:normal;line-height:1.25;"><br></span></p><p>One last node: the electrodes are not so tightly connected to the battery now,</p><p>but I believe they do touch it, so I think this should be enough.</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks in advance,</p><p><br></p><p>Tamas</p><p>Ps: I know, I am really an amateur. :-)</p><
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  • From GMX\@symbos8bit@yahoogroups.com to symbos8bit@yahoogroups.com on Wed Feb 17 21:46:50 2016
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    Hey Tamas,

    =20

    maybe it=E2=80=99s still a battery problem, better the battery isn=E2=80=99=
    t connected properly. You should use a battery adapter which will be solder=
    ed on the board. I did it with mine and it works well. You are able to repl= ace the cells very easily. If the battery doesn=E2=80=99t work than the ROM=
    s (battery buffered) won=E2=80=99t work too. May that=E2=80=99s the reason = why the CPC loops during booting.

    =20

    e.g.:

    https://www.conrad.de/de/knopfzellenhalter-1-cr-2016-cr-2020-cr-2025-cr-203= 2-vertikal-printloetfahnen-b-x-h-x-t-26-x-28-x-76-mm-goobay-46159-651205.ht=
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    =20

    Cheers,

    Jens

    =20

    Von: symbos8bit@yahoogroups.com [mailto:symbos8bit@yahoogroups.com]=20 Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. Februar 2016 21:39
    An: symbos8bit@yahoogroups.com
    Betreff: [symbos8bit] Symbiface II Coin battery replacement (gone wrong :-(=
    )

    =20






    Hi all,

    =20

    Greetings! This is my first post here. :-)

    And I have to say in advance that I am not really

    an expert in electronics I am afraid.

    =20

    I own a Symbiface II board which I use with my old and trusty

    Schneider CPC 6128. I had the board quite a while and

    after switching on the CPC after several month, I noticed that

    my saved rom programs were not really working anymore.

    (Symbos did not boot properly, etc.)

    So I thought it is time to replace the coin battery.

    I bought a DL2032 battery (I read that it is just a CR2032 made by Duracell=
    )

    and tried to replace it with the old one.

    I had a hard time doing it as it seemed to stuck or glued to the electrodes=
    .

    In the end I managed to do it. I put in the new one but since then, my

    CPC won't boot properly. When I am switching it on, it goes into some kind

    of boot loop, repeating to display the copright message over and over again=
    .

    So I am afraid, that I probably wrecked my board. If I pull the ribbon cabl=
    e from

    the expansion port the CPC boots normally, so I beileve the the Symbiface 2= =20

    what has a problem.

    =20

    The dip switched are in their usual state: switch 0 and 7 are off,

    the rest are on. I did not change any jumpers, etc.

    =20

    Any ideas guys? Anything to check or to do?

    (Maybe somebody who can do repairs if needed? Not for free ofc.)





    One last node: the electrodes are not so tightly connected to the battery n= ow,

    but I believe they do touch it, so I think this should be enough.

    =20

    Thanks in advance,

    =20

    Tamas

    Ps: I know, I am really an amateur. :-)

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    <div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.= 0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-= US'>Hey Tamas,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'fon= t-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-la= nguage:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang= =3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#= 1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>maybe it=E2=80=99s still a battery probl= em, better the battery isn=E2=80=99t connected properly. You should use a b= attery adapter which will be soldered on the board. I did it with mine and =
    it works well. You are able to replace the cells very easily. If the batter=
    y doesn=E2=80=99t work than the ROMs (battery buffered) won=E2=80=99t work = too. May that=E2=80=99s the reason why the CPC loops during booting.<o:p></= o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:1= 1.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:E= N-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US s= tyle=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>e= .g.:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'= font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:black'><a href=3D"= https://www.conrad.de/de/knopfzellenhalter-1-cr-2016-cr-2020-cr-2025-cr-203= 2-vertikal-printloetfahnen-b-x-h-x-t-26-x-28-x-76-mm-goobay-46159-651205.ht= ml">https://www.conrad.de/de/knopfzellenhalter-1-cr-2016-cr-2020-cr-2025-cr= -2032-vertikal-printloetfahnen-b-x-h-x-t-26-x-28-x-76-mm-goobay-46159-65120= 5.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US sty= le=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>= &nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'fon= t-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-la= nguage:EN-US'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang= =3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#= 1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jens<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMso= Normal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",s= ans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span= ></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:= 3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font= -size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Von:</span></b><span lang=3D= EN-US style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> symbos8b= it@yahoogroups.com [mailto:symbos8bit@yahoogroups.com] <br><b>Gesendet:</b>=
    Mitt</span><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-seri= f'>woch, 17. Februar 2016 21:39<br><b>An:</b> symbos8bit@yahoogroups.com<br= ><b>Betreff:</b> [symbos8bit] Symbiface II Coin battery replacement (gone w= rong :-( )<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp= ;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p>Hi all,<o:p><= /o:p></p><p><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p>Greetings! This is my first post here. = :-)<o:p></o:p></p><p>And I have to say in advance that I am not really<o:p>= </o:p></p><p>an expert in electronics I am afraid.<o:p></o:p></p><p><o:p>&n= bsp;</o:p></p><p>I own a Symbiface II board which I use with my old and tru= sty<o:p></o:p></p><p>Schneider CPC 6128. I had the board quite a while and<= o:p></o:p></p><p>after switching on the CPC after several month, I noticed = that<o:p></o:p></p><p>my saved rom programs were not really working anymore= .<o:p></o:p></p><p>(Symbos did not boot properly, etc.)<o:p></o:p></p><p>So=
    I thought it is time to replace the coin battery.<o:p></o:p></p><p>I bough=
    t a DL2032 battery (I read that it is just a CR2032 made by Duracell)<o:p><= /o:p></p><p>and tried to replace it with the old one.<o:p></o:p></p><p>I ha=
    d a hard time doing it as it seemed to stuck or glued to the electrodes.<o:= p></o:p></p><p>In the end I managed to do it. I put in the new one but sinc=
    e then, my<o:p></o:p></p><p>CPC won't boot properly. When I am switching it=
    on, it goes into some kind<o:p></o:p></p><p>of boot loop, repeating to dis= play the copright message over and over again.<o:p></o:p></p><p>So I am afr= aid, that I probably wrecked my board. If I pull the ribbon cable from<o:p>= </o:p></p><p>the expansion port the CPC boots normally, so I beileve the th=
    e Symbiface 2&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p>what has a problem.<o:p></o:p></p><p><= o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p>The dip switched are in their usual state: switch 0 = and 7 are off,<o:p></o:p></p><p>the rest are on. I did not change any jumpe= rs, etc.<o:p></o:p></p><p><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p>Any ideas guys? Anything =
    to check or to do?<o:p></o:p></p><p>&nbsp;(Maybe somebody who can do repair=
    s if needed? Not for free&nbsp;ofc.)<o:p></o:p></p><p><br><br><o:p></o:p></= p><p>One last node: the electrodes are not so tightly connected to the batt= ery now,<o:p></o:p></p><p>but I believe they do touch it, so I think this s= hould be enough.<o:p></o:p></p><p><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p>Thanks in advance= ,<o:p></o:p></p><p><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p>Tamas<o:p></o:p></p><p>Ps: I kno=
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    Hi Jens,<div><br></div><div>Thanks a lot for your response!</div><div><br></div><div>Yes, maybe you right. I am going to buy this socket you mentioned and</div><div>will try to have it fitted on the board. Maybe this was the problem</div><div>and not that I touched something I should not have.</div><div>(I had really a hard time to get the old battery out. It was stuck real hard.)</div><div><br></div><div>Tamas</div><div><br></div>



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